EXPANDED DIANETICS A lecture given on the 30 March 1972

EXPANDED DIANETICS A lecture given on the 30 March 1972

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EXPANDED DIANETICS

A lecture given
on the 30 March 1972

All right. This is 30th of March `72 and I'm about to roll up your misunderstood word record.
We have here the ED 149 Flag. Cheer up, it doesn't look that bad. It isn't that bad, really,
honest. Could be much worse. They might not be getting any help at all. They might just be
thrown away in a garbage can someplace.

All right. this is, this was a Dianetic project and this is ED 149 Flag that we're activating. And
the situation was, we have too many chronic sickies and the probable why is Quickie Dianetics.
And the auditing stats are low. Dianetic auditors cannot find pcs. And the ideal scene is
Dianetics working to proper pc completion on each case.

And the program with this was a leading auditor to be appointed from Interns and that was
done. And the leading auditor to, the leading auditor to select four auditors- one to fly ruds
and three Dianetics to make a team-by the leading auditor. That's been done. Three-team to
be fully cleared on what really is a Dianetic completion- Director of Personnel Enhancement.
Was that done? All right. Now four-folders of the MO's chronic sickies list furnished by the
MO to be assembled. You did that, he had already gotten his list, which was really what
prompted the program. And five- FESes done on their cases. Now you've done that. And
six-folders brought to LRH and LRH to gen in the team. And we're at that stage right now.
And then we've got programs to be written for each case to briefly repair and do real Dianetics
on. All right.

Now, hand me that first folder that I had there a moment ago. All right. Now let's take, let's
take a look at this pc and you've done a Folder Error Summary on this pc of some kind or
another here. And here's an OCA in here someplace. This isn't the one I was looking at but
that doesn't matter.

And there's no excuse for an auditor not knowing about OCAs, just no excuse at all. He
should, of course, be able to give one, he should be able to grade one and so forth. But read
one, that is where the auditor comes in.

Now all of this stuff they write on the back of the OCA means nothing. That is for the
graduation of somebody from PE over to auditing or something. And they can tell them things
like this, and they're all perfectly true. But that is not, in actual fact, what an auditor does with
one of these.

The first thing an auditor does, one of these things is look to see whether or not there is any
point below the center line. Now what in actual fact is the center line? The American APA has a
center line which is zero, above which we get plus and below which we get minus. You've
seen those, haven't you? All right. Well, this is essentially the same thing except the OCA has a
better center graph.

Now the center line here of 00 is the critical point of the graph. Now just a little bit into this
lower gray shaded area is not too bad. But when they go down into the white, like a minus 62
or a minus 76 or a minus 26 or something like that, they're said to be in the white. So there'd
be two conditions here, is below the center line, which would mean any negative, and in the
white. Now this is such a gross thing that an auditor does that it is hardly worth writing text
books about. And people will tell you there's much more to know about this. There isn't.

When they're in the white on the left, they're out of valence. I don't care where on the left or at
what point we call the middle, left or right of the graph. It's when they're low on the left, in the
white on the left, they're out of valence.



When they're low on the right, they're crazy. And I'm just using that advisedly. This happens
to be a fact. See, it's not the usual social statement, "Oh, oh, he's crazy." See, this guy is
psychotic.

So low on the left, out of valence; low on the right, crazy. When they're low on the left, it
means the case is too heavily charged. It is very, very, very heavily charged. so the person
cannot even come to the center of his bank. He can't be in the middle of his bank and look at it.
He has been living for eons watching himself so that the pictures he takes are outside. Now
you can get that kind of a condition from somebody who's exterior. But there's two conditions
of exteriorization: one is looking at oneself and one is making pictures of oneself over there.
So, when you have that condition, you know that if you have a low on the left, it's a very
heavily charged case On running such a case you have to be very careful only to run things that
read very well. Prefer to run secondaries.

Now when you do narrative running on such a case, C/S , that's your health form and so
forth, you bleed that. In other words, you just get all you can out of that on the subject of
emotional stresses on a low on the left-deaths, losses of brothers and sisters and dogs and
cats, see'? You bleed that for emotional stress situations. Now there are three lists and it's
perfectly legitimate for you to use these lists. All of your tools haven't been assembled in
Dianetics or the Dianetic auditor has not fully used his tools. There's LX3 LX2 and LX1. Now
because those are listed in the Class 8 materials, the Dianetic auditor never seems to know
about them.

Now when you've bled the white form of emotional situations, you do not now bleed the
white form of painful situations. Noooo. You get an LX3, LX2, LX1. And you take the best
reads that you can get. And you run that and they will come snap into valence providing you've
done it more or less in that sequence. You've bled the deaths off the case or something like
that. Now you go into your LX3, LX2 , LX1 thing. Now you're going to get some more
emotions off the case.

Now you're still running secondaries. Now secondaries will very often drop through into
engrams. All right, so they drop through into engrams. Run the chain. But be careful you
haven't jumped chains.

All right. So much for the left side of the graph. You will find out if you do what I've just told
you it will suddenly come up and it will be above the center line. Now when you think of all of
the difficulty people have in trying to raise one of these graphs . . .

Now the instructions I'm giving you are simply to bleed the case for any charge. Now if it
doesn't come up above the center line at that point, more LX3, 2,1. Try to get them to F/Ning
lists. Now maybe he's remembered a whole bunch of horrible experiences he's had, and you
might be able to do LX3, LX2, LX1. And go back now and do a new white form and find out
you have an entirely new white form on the subject of horrible experiences that were terribly
emotional, and losses of business and things like that.

Now what will happen at the same time is the fellow's memory will push back. Now a person
who is very low on the left side does very, very well if he can remember back to the time when
he was 1, or, the 16-year-old will do a, he can remember back to, she can remember back
when she was twelve or something like this. Now you start pushing back his memory without
treating this at all. His memory will simply go back. His memory will go back to extreme
youth. Now you're not paying much attention to that, but it's just one of the things that comes
up. The fellow can remember better. You're not even running recall processes, don't you see.
But then you'll get somebody telling you, "You know, why that's a funny thing. I just never
remember that old house and so forth" and start waf waf waf waffle waffle waffle.

All right, now that bleeds the case of the emotional charge. So if you've got a low on the left,
this is how you enter the case. All right, so much for that.



You, as I say, you could probably do your LXes, you could probably come back and bleed it
and you'd finally find some more deaths and you might even go back and find new reads on
the LXes; who knows? He might even find by this time and volunteer there's an emotion that
isn't on the LX list or something of this sort, you see. Who knows what? That happens.

But your end phenomena, as far as you're concerned, is this thing up above the center line on
the left side. Soon as you got that up above the center line on that side, great three cheers,
you're away because the fellow'll be in valence. Now he'll be able to confront something.

All right, so now let's take it low on the right. Now this person's crazy .Now when they're
low on the left and low on the right, you handle the left side. And it will come up and then you
handle the right side. When they're only low on the right and slightly low on the left, you still
handle them from the left. In other words, it's left to right. Got it?

Now this person who's low on the right - research on this - this person opened the door to the
human mind. What the psychiatrists and psychologist should have been doing, the alienists and
the Aesculapians and everybody who worked in this particular field - only the Aesculapian
was working in both mental and physical healing back at Greek times. This, solving this,
solved the human mind for its first time in history. That is an evil purpose. And that is all it is.

Now by evil purpose we mean the fellow has destructive intentions. And he'd be very difficult
to audit sometimes. Sometimes he's very smooth to audit. But this case will roller coaster. You
audit him today and he's fine and tomorrow he's complaining. You, at first, you let him out of
the session and "Oh, feeling fine, you know, I've never felt so good in my life." and he walks
right straight to the examiner "Had an awful session." He roller coastered just in that distance
because you see, he's trying to do himself in on all dynamics. Even though he says to do
others in, he is still doing himself in because an evil purpose makes him restrain himself. A
thetan is basically good. So he knows he's being evil so therefore he had better put on his
brakes. So this includes never, under any circumstances, letting himself go. And that includes
the fellow who is committing evil acts all the time. He's still got the brakes on but can't put
them on hard enough. Brakes are burned out. But he's still trying just as that driver would be
stamping his foot through the floor board, he's still trying. It gives him a very heavy massive
bank, very heavy. You'll run in them black, a few masses and you'll run into this and
invisibilities and so forth.

Now a great many people can't go into Dianetics at all. They can't run an engram at all. That is
uniformly one of two things. It is drills or the commands have not been cleared. So, the second
you start running one of these fellows and he says, "Well, you know, I really don't like
Dianetics." Now you're in a cleft stick. Now what do you do? Down on the left, down on the
right, and doesn't know how to, doesn't like to run Dianetics. Well, now you've had it. But
fortunately for us, why, there is a remedy to it-is he will be able to run the drugs because
that's what he's stuck in. He'll run those automatically .

So if you run into that condition you are one more step away from home. You've got to handle
the drugs, handle the emotions, handle the engrams, see.

Now there's some areas that can he worked on here by other auditors and by, that is to say, by
people with upper scale auditing but let me tell you something here, all these postulates, evil
purposes and everything else are stuck in an engram. Now there are other phenomena in the
bank than this but they're all stuck in that heavy energy. And if you pull too many thoughts,
one after the other, out of the bank which has not been properly discharged on the left side here
of it's emotional charge, and of the right side of it's pain and heavy energy mass - if you just
kept running, pull the postulate out , get the goals out of it, get the this out of it, get something
else out of it - you're just leaving that stuff there. Actually it's starting to group. And if it has
been misrun in any way, it will group.

So let's go one step further away from home now. Somebody started a drug rundown but
botched it up. Now we're way away from home. Now if any of these cases are in this



condition, you run out the auditing. And then you run out the drugs and then you run out the
emotions, and then you run out the pain. Now you got it? Now there are fast ways to run out
auditing by an assessment. But auditing actually also can be run out by straight Dianetics and
you will get all of it out. Do you see where we're going here? In other words, if you approach
what you're doing here from a totally Dianetic viewpoint and do it in the sequence that it can be
done in Dianetics, you're away.

Now there are other ways to short-circuit these other things. That is to say, bring them up, get
them done fast, pull the evil purpose out of the bank, do this, do that, do the other thing, you
see. You understand? You can do a tremendous job of X or XI Class dating, and locating and
blow that stuff. And you can do these other things.

The only one I know of that you get hung up on is where rudiments are out long duration.
Now did it ever occur to you that you could run rudiments with engrams? Did it ever occur to
you? The way you'd run an ARC break; you would simply assess affinity, reality,
communication and understanding, and you would run a time that you did not. And what do
you know-it'll run. Only this time you'll really run it.

So if a person won't talk to you, you could actually list a list of which way he was
withholding, like false withholds, suppressed withholds. Run it with R3R. Now you would
find a very, very interesting thing happening here. You'll find out this would go all the way
back to China and off the planet and into outer space, see. So you don't necessarily have to
have an upper scale auditor hanging over you all the time.

Now when you bung one up in the session, you can still do an L1C, if the guy's bunged up in
the session and so forth. If the case has to be generally repaired, there could be something very
wrong with the ease, and you can do a GF. A GF5 can be done on the case. So there is review
action can be done for the Dianetic auditor. Somebody can do an L1C, somebody can fly his
ruds, somebody can something or other, don't you see. Your 0 to VI. But you actually could,
I'm just trying to tell you, you could do any of these ruds with Dianetics.

So let's go back all the way now. You could run out the auditing and then you found out that
the person was ARC broken and had been for a long time with something, you could even
assess that. You'd have to find out if it was a break in affinity, reality or communication or
understanding. You could even run that out and run it out triple, and it would go back on a
Dianetic chain just like anything else. That's well within the skill of a Dianetic auditor.

Alright. You could get the auditing out, you could get the ruds in, you could get the charge off
the case, you could get the pain off the case and what do you know? you could also get the evil
purposes off the case, without even asking direct for it. You'd be looking for the R/S chain.
The evil purpose guys all R/S, sooner or later. A down on the right will R/S. And you want to
list that loud and clear when you did.

Now in L9S, in some other ways these chaps with, working with that, actually can pull that
out from underneath it and do this, that and the other thing with it, don't you see. They can do
these things. But let's say you have a Dianetic list-I don't want to lose you anyplace. You've
got a, you've done something with, either you've had a VI fly the ruds which is perfectly all
right, see, or you've had somebody do an L1C or something like that, perfectly all right, and
maybe somebody's even prepchecked past auditing for you, which is perfectly all right.
You've got this think, somebody's done a GF-case has always been resistive so they do a
GF40. In other words, somebody can do a set-up for you or somebody can do a repair for
you. But that doesn't stop you utterly just because you're only auditing Dianetics. I'm trying to
change your frame of reference. So you shouldn't be saying, "Well nobody or we can't find
any Class VIs to . . ." You get the point of view! In other words you're not blocked.

Now. Dianetic auditors these days are being taught to fly ruds-perfectly legitimate. Only
don't be knuckle headed and try to get a high TA down with an ARC break. It won't come
down. If you're going to start into the Scientology side of auditing, you had better just roll up



your sleeves and abide by it's rules. It does have rules. I've seen several cases absolutely
butchered, high TA and they try to get it down with ARC breaks or something like that. Or
they've got a high TA that is high on some other factor, see. So your high TA person, the high
TA person is more of a puzzle to a Scientology auditor than he is to a Dianetic auditor because a
Dianetic auditor just keeps on auditing. If he only takes BD items will day by day by clay bring
the TA down and stay within range. He doesn't even have to run exteriorization as such. It will
come down, it will come down. And this is a little more painful to the person. It lasts longer.
You don't get as many F/Ns at the examiner but it will come down. We've had cases right here
on Flag. Don't know why anybody was worried about them. We just ran Dianetics and so on.

You have to be careful when their TA is high to take a BD item. That is what you have to be
careful of. Very often you could use two way comm and get a BD item and then phrase that as
an R3R and the case will come down. This is all, this is all possible. Another way to do it, turn
it over to a Scientology auditor and get a CS 53RRR, and they will probably find what it is.

So there's lots of tools, the case can be repaired. It is a question whether or not it is worth
wasting time running ruds by Dianetics. It might be much more swift, don't you see, to get
somebody to patch it up. But remember this: it would really be patched up if you ran it. It
would really be patched up if you ran it. It will never see the light of day again.

Now I am just trying to give you the breath of what you can do. Now you can take any of
these FESes. Here we have, here we have a person who is wildly down on the right-hand side.
Now that person's going to rockslam. But, how would we approach this case? Do you see that
it is slightly down on the left? Aaah-so. So somebody sailed into this case for a quick
completion, didn't run out all the available emotion, and so it stayed down on he left hand side.
Somebody bypassed the death of her cat or her mother or something. You got it?

Now if you were to do a white form brand new and just stress this loss little section on the
white form, "Yeah, well who else did you lose and what else is it to this?" and so on and
etcetera, the next thing you know why you will get a hot one. Run it, run it just narrative and
that left hand side will go up, zoom. And then your next procedure and so forth would be to
start working on the engram side of it.

Now possibly you think this case might need a great deal of repair. Maybe the case does need
repair. If it's indicated the case needs repair, nobody knows how to repair-the thing or
something or else, turn it over to a VI by all means. But if you're going to dump everything
you do on a VI, you're going to feel very limited. You're going to feel very, very limited,
right? You sort of feel like you're dependent on some line. Actually you're not.

And we get August 68, we get a white form done and we get under "Treatment", the pc 53ys
"psychotherapy 1966", and under interest and hobby, pc says, "psychic phenomena and
drugs," and drugs were not handled until much later. Now you get an oddily here that you
could audit at once, if it appeared on the case and if it read. Those are always the things-did it
read?

Now she was audited all that time then over out-drugs, out-psychic phenomena and out-
psychotherapy. The auditing itself might very well be charged. Do you see how you could
approach this?

You could simply ask her, "In auditing . . ." something or other, something or other,
something or other, list, list, list, list, list, "did you ever feel emotionally upset in any way" or
something like that. You'll hit the emotional bing right there and you can lift it on the left hand
side. Do I make myself clear?

All right. Now the ruds were begun with a TA high and no F/N gotten-well, of course not.
And the GF were done in review and it reads on the pc told a lie, and she was in a horrible
state. She had an infection of some sort. And when they did an L1B and they got no F/N, and
nothing was flown. That would be an interesting one right there, when you look over folder



error summaries like that. She's probably had an L1B since, now an L1C, but if you were to
dig up that L1B as a VI and just fly each one of those, they would either no longer he there or
they would F/N and the case would have a resurge. But you would have to say, "Were you
ever audited over that?" Oh yes, the case has been audited over all those. So the case is
emotionally charged in auditing.

So looking at this now as all investigation, one of your best chances of straightening out this
case is just handle the subject of auditing. Bleed it of its emotional content. Run it R3R and you
would find your left hand side would rise. And you will run into all of this sort of thing.

Now it goes on and on and on and on and on here. Now this is an awful lot of auditing. Now
even Power is out. In other words, the person has had Power with no F/N. So you will run
into this and later on somebody fooled around with it. So Lord knows what you will run into
running this, but that's the way I'd approach the case. I would bleed the person's auditing of
all of its emotion.

Now, if you get inventive-now all I'm doing is trying to show you how you can bleed the
whole subject of Dianetics for practically all of your auditing. And if you ever got very
inventive you could actually take an LX list and assess it on auditing- "While you were being
audited did you have . . .", you see. "Were you", I think It would be phrased. Do you follow?
And then you just run them as secondaries, secondaries, secondaries. So you would do that,
however, if she wouldn't, couldn't really come up with anything, you would say, "What
emotions did you have during auditing?" All right, and then having done that, you would run
that out. You would find this case came up pretty bright and shiny.

When you get over into your painful emotion sides, remember that you are dealing with
somebody who has been, on the track, very destructive. And without even knowing what that
is, you will eventually run the incident where it comes off. Now right down here at the end of
the seaway, right at the end of the breakwater down here, there was a young fellow who had
just come out to the Ship and he let go at the top of the ladder and fell backwards about 20 feet
onto the rocks. And he hit his head, and he was pretty bad off for a while. He's all right now.
But the thing that was holding it in place was. he had decided to just, he decided to knock
himself off just before he let go. Therefore, his Dianetic assist is very much in question. He
was given a Dianetic assist-must be very much in question. If anybody were to look into his
folder, nobody said, "EB". It may not even have F/Ned. But somebody auditing him out at
AOLA-he was in pretty sad shape to audit-but somebody auditing him out at AOLA
apparently collided with this in Dianetics, and he decided to do it. Now that was held in place
against himself as a self overt. He didn't recover. Now there's data like this-what, where do
these evil Purposes come from? They come just before or just after an engram. AN ENGRAM.
Don't conceive the bank as something that sits out here with the purposes over here in this
column and all of the energy and pain over in this column.

Now some future time you will be busy running some chain and you will probably run into the
ARC break with Dianetics. You'll run into the ARC break that occurred before that time, while
you're busy running some other chain.

Now the primary mistake that an auditor in Dianetics does that gives him quickie Dianetics is he
assesses pain, sensation, emotions and attitudes in one sentence. Now I know it doesn't break
it down materially in HCOBs but I'm trying to teach the old dogs new tricks now, so look at
this. By doing that all in one lump sum, you could miss on the left side and the right side,
couldn't you? So during this whole project I don't want to see you ever assess in one sentence,
"Do you have any pain, sensations, emotions or attitudes connected with this, something or
other?" No. As a matter of fact the sentence is even slightly backwards because the emotions
come after the pain. So you do your assessments singly. You can just go backwards on this,
you can assess for attitudes. Now we're really going downstairs. Now this would be a person
on the left hand side, the right hand side both on the bottom of the graph. Now the only thing
you're going to get out of this person is attitudes, not even emotions. Look at it. And then you
might get some emotions out of them. But one of the things that a person like that complains



about is he doesn't have any emotions. So remember that each one of these pain, sensations,
emotions and attitudes has a negative and don't sit there sometimes with a BD on "no attitude"
and not recognize that you have an incident, because I see that perpetually on Dianetic lists.
"No emotion at all"-long fall BD. "Well, list was clean." Zzzzzzzz. List was clean, hell. It
hadn't even been started. Do you see, so it should-so there's a negative aspect to all these
things.

Now you can get some kind of a thing like an attitude of purposelessness or something like
that. That is a perfectly valid attitude. But God help you when you start running that because
that is going to chunk right straight along cross to the other side fast. You can get him into
more pain and more this and more that and more something or other than you can shake a slick
at. Because of course it's on that button-evil purpose, intention and so forth. So when you
get those recognize now that you do know about insanity. Now I'm not telling you necessarily
to avoid them but just make sure you've got an awful good read. Make sure you got an awful
good read before you run anything with regard to purposes-for two reasons. These reasons
are very, very big reasons. It will he imbedded in an incident either just at the beginning of it or
just after it. Now you can pluck it out of the incident and cause the incident to sort of fade out
and so forth. But now you're gelling into the VI level of action and it's not necessarily the best
level of action, see. It's faster but it's not necessarily more thorough.

So purposelessness or purposes and so on is something you don't list. If the pc says it, put it
on the list. Unless it gives you one hell of a good read, leave it alone. But just to recapitulate,
to go back over what I was just saying, now don't use this standard, pardon me, formerly
standard line. Don't, don't use this-"Do you have any pains, somatics, emotions, (mumble)
attitudes, and so on bla dib daa daa." Don't use that. Break it clown. Break it down. Now
there's two ways you can break it down and this is a clever way to break it down. You write
down here on a little slip or you get yourself some mimeographed slips, and you say, this
guy's got a chronic stomach ache, you say, "About a stomach ache, what is it? Is it the pain, or
is it the emotion, it's the sensations, the attitude?" Zoooo. Now the E-meter tells you what is
real to the pc. That is why it doesn't work as a lie detector because it never reads on a real
criminal because crime isn't real to a real criminal so it won't read on the meter. And the only
people you ever catch with sec checking are honest people because dishonesty is real to them,
do you follow? The reason why you only read items that read, the only, the only items you use
are those that read well. And the only reason that you do that is to make sure that it's real to the
pc.

Now you could break down this pain, "What is this stomach thing you're talking about. Is it
the pain, is it the sensation, is it the emotion in it, is it the attitude in it?" Zoom! "Give me some
attitudes about this". Now you could work that person's somatic over on that same list,
reassessing and making new lists and reassessing and making new lists and reassessing, you
see, pain, sensations, emotions, making a new list until it would just F/N all over the place, it's
gone. Do you follow?

Now, so let's, let's not, let's just abandon that portmanteau that everything in the same grip
approach, because it is very unthorough. Now, here we have somebody who is, she's had a
GF with no reads taken to F/N in July 69 and she's had a way to waste money with no EP.
Now you right, you know right now that you, there's, from a Dianetic auditor's viewpoint, we
have two potential chains. There was something read on that GF. Now it's either since been
handled or it's there but there is an auditing chain there. Now you could say, "In former
auditing, did you have any, did you have any, pain or . . ." and so on. You could look on this
GF and let's say it said, "Invalidated, long read" and it was never taken to an F/N. "Well, let's
see, do you have anything about being invalidated?" something like that? See? Wham! You get
yourself read. It's now hot, it's still hot. You could run it. In other words you could bleed this
FES even off an old list. But the test would be would it read again? Now to get something to
read again you often have to say, "On this item has anything been suppressed? On this item has
anything been invalidated?" Voom, voom. If you get a read on either suppressed or
invalidated, the item is valid. You don't have to go back and ask the item itself because
invalidated transfers the read from the item to invalidated. You can be, if you ask it again you



would now get a read on what the item was. But the read transfers. But you're looking for
something that moves the meter, see, it moves that needle good, and that is within the reality of
the pc. And if it doesn't move it good, it isn't in the reality of the person.

Now the only real thing, you got this now on assessing your pains, emotions and so forth,
right? All right, now there's this, there is a line of country here in the running of any pc. If the
person has had a read on the list and then the read disappears, and then you come back and
call the read again and you can t. get a read and the pc is upset, always use the "suppress".
"invalidated and sometimes the word "abandoned" will work. "Has this item been
abandoned?" "Oh, yes." Read. Got it?

So it's your job to make an old list like this, if you're doing a repeat or an old Dianetic list and
it didn't seem to be handled, to make it, to make it come live again. If you can't make it come
live, skip it because it's probably gone, it's probably this, probably that.

Now it's important to you that the most chronic, hideous, unbelievable conditions will in actual
fact surrender to Dianetics if you know how to play this piano. This person's practically got a
hidden standard. Let's say this person has a terrible eczema, some psoriasis or something-
skin all turned into scale. Now you can start hitting away at this as your only target. In the first
place, this person's got failed help all over this thing in trying to do something about it for
years. So you have to approach this with good sense. It isn't just a condition which just
occurred and you are now just going to audit it, that's not so. Now that is comparable to an
OCA. It s down on the left and down on the right physically.

So you can shake out of that attitude for which you'll probably get "nothing can be done about
it". Good, it reads well, R3R, run it.

Now after you knock this down for a while, this seems to be what the pc's interest is in, after
you've knocked this thing down for a while, all of a sudden some computation will come out
of all this. You figure it out. It'll be some big cognition come out of this of some kind or
another. Well, that is the idea which is held in place by the energy. The energy is so ferocious
he's never been able to look at the idea before. Now you're actually taking the energy off so
the idea will come out. In Scientology they take the idea out. You get the reversed angle.

So in other words, you've got this thing and now it gets a little better, and the most serious
thing that you can do now at this time is to figure you have failed. Do you know that one of
those engrams that you ran in connection with this . . . first you got off some attitudes, you got
off some emotion, "shame", and then you got off this and that and so forth. And it seemed to
run a whole bunch of disrelated things and they somehow or another always seem to come up
with this arm. And eventually there's some sort of an incident There where the person was
scalded to death or something-and there you've got this. You've obviously run the incident.
This is where the person got it. You run the incident out and the thing's still there. It's not as
bad as it was it's still there. That's what we call quickie Dianetics. Too brushed off and so
forth. You've got to work on it.

Now you just start running general things. You go on and you keep on auditing the person.
You've got to bleed this case down for things to run. I don't care how many ways you bleed it
down for things to run. And do you know that something very remarkable will happen. When
you least expect somewhere up along the line, a whole interior section of the engram you
thought was totally run will suddenly appear on another chain and that will be the end of his
psoriasis. It was in there with a mental image picture but a piece of the picture was so
submerged and out of the person's reality that it was never touched.

I've seen some of the most remarkable things with regard to this. A person's goiter, a person's
this, a person's that, tabulous numbers of odds and ends, don't you see? They're always, the
medico is always talking about rushing them right into the ambulance and getting them out or
"Well, we'll have to have an operation." "That failed", and all that sort of thing. Well, the
operation just gives you another engram.



Now the reason he's got it will also audit out. Now you recognize that if you continue to get
the mental energy off the case, the ideas will then fly off. This is the reverse mirror view of
Scientology. So it's F/N, GIs, Cog, Cog F/N, Cog, VGIs, Cog, Cog.

Now the reason a person does not cognite is he is being run against a no reality. And his reality
might be included in his attitudes and he might run beautifully on attitudes. He might run
beautifully on ideas. Now you couldn't imagine somebody running engrams on ideas but the
think he has thought maybe in the last 24 hours is about as heavily as he can get into engrams.
Basic might only lie three days ago on having thought that he might someday be hungry.

Now as soon as you include R3R on attitudes, and that line of country, as soon as you include
that, you are actually running R3R out on a recall basis. But you're getting what went with it.
You're really doing recall but you're running it R3R. It's perfectly legitimate.

Now here's the $62 question about all this. This is very interesting to you. The failure to clear
up all the words in the commands with the pc and the failure to clear every isolated different
word in the list, including the tiny screwball little English words of "is", "the", "from", "such"
can cause you to get reads on the items the pc himself has given you that aren't valid. And
where ever you've seen a small fall that didn't read then, the auditor has skipped out the idea of
interest. He hasn't consulted that and you'll find the LXs, somebody will tell you, "Oh, well
you never"-we had this here the other day-"You never consult whether or not the pc is
interested on an LX item because it doesn't say so on the VIII tapes." You see, because it says
it on the VIII tapes, that changes the whole business of Dianetics, huh? Quite remarkable.

So somebody's not checked interest or he's disregard the pc's statement of no interest and
what do you know? Both of those things have occurred in the last 48 hours. Ah, a little bit
more than that-in the last 5 days. The auditor auditing somebody on a misunderstood word in
the middle of a phrase that was picked off a list and swearing up and down that it was a
perfectly valid item because it gave a small fall even while it was checked. But the item
wouldn't run and the TA went right straight on up to 5 while the auditor ground on and on and
on and on. The auditor had never bothered to say very much about interest. It was a read on a
misunderstood word. It was a misunderstood word. It was off of the canned list. Horrible,
huh?

Now we've just taken somebody who has been trained all the way up the line and never
understood any words in the English language before she was trained. You hear me? It wasn't
that she didn't understand the words in Scientology and Dianetics, it's she just never
understood the English language. Been speaking it all her life, been speaking it all her life but
never bothered to find out what the words meant.

Now the most remarkable program is on the front of that case because it says in each case
"clear up each word on a list." The person supposedly had had a drug rundown. Now how
could the person have had a Drug Rundown? The person didn't know 5 or 6 of the words in
R3R. The Dianetic C/S 1 was a brush off. This is one of these persons, "Oh, yes, I know
what all that means, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes," while knowing none of them. Clearing the
command is what is out. So this program is quite remarkable because it says, very carefully, I
wrote it up for this one girl, and boy, did she come up shining! Wow! From the bottom of the
pit. Clear each word on the list then assess the list.

Now I've got to tell you how to do that. You do not at any time read them the question. You
just start in on the list and you take every word, do you see, and now if you really want to
avoid stirring up the bank and getting the question, you clear them, the list backwards or the
questions backwards. Clear them all isolatedly. Now you know you've already cleared that
word so you don't clear it again, you see, when it occurs someplace else. Now it's quite a
stunt and I would advise you before you go into this very much that you get a little hit of a drill
on asking them that.



Now it is not, "Do you know what this word means?" The graveyard is full on that one. No
room for any more corpses. You ask, "What is the definition of . . . ?" They can't give it to
you, have your stuff right to hand, look it up. Clear a whole L3B, all 80 questions backwards,
with each of the things backwards. The pc, by the way, you'd think would be bored stiff and
all confused and so forth. No, they get quite excited about it. But you got to have a dictionary,
you got to have a dictionary stand.

Every one of these sickies you've got has never understood the words in the commands, nor
the list to repair them. The communication has never occurred. Now you say, it's the auditor's
TRs, it's this, it's that, it's the other thing. Well, have all those perfect, have your metering
perfect and all the rest of that. But clear up those words and you'll get the pcs that fail.

So the content of the bank could make it fail by being run backwards. Run out all the pain, you
got it? That can be run backwards. And then you never got a communication. See, your TRs
are perfect, but you never got a communication. And then the drugs. Drugs can prevent you
right now from getting the person to look at anything because they hallucinated. Hallucination.
It means bugginess. It means seeing things that aren't there. A good hallucination would be a
lion sitting in the middle of the floor that nobody else could see and there has never been a lion
in the middle of the floor. So it doesn't run well as an engram.

But what really happens to them is the R6 stuff and lower bank stuff kicks in on them while
they're on drugs and scares them to death. And then they don't ever bother to tell even
themselves about this. They had that horrible day when .... Took this poor little innocent pot
that everybody was smoking and, oh my god, and these spiders started leaping out of the walls
and jumping all over them, you know, something happened. Now if you ran the spiders, make
sure that it's a spider chain and not a drug chain otherwise you'll be running what they call
dub-in.

Now, dub-in is normally a heavily charged case, and if your pcs ever see the dub-in to run it,
you've already entered the case too deeply. So your dub-in case is solved with attitudes,
emotions or sensations, then pain. A dub-in case is so out of valence that it is amazing. So
these dub-in cases is some thing you don't need to worry about. You don't have to have any
special solution for a dub-in case. Just run the case right side to, run the case against the OCA
or APA and you'll be all right. You got it now?

But your job basically is to bleed them down: Give me another one of these things. Oh there's,
this one, this one has got a very sour OCA. And you'll see that this case has been, they
plucked the ideas out of the case with upper level auditing here and they've left all the energy
on the case. So this case is going to require that auditing be run. You see what case that is?

Now somewhere in here there's, here's, aaah, here. If you look at this OCA, you'll see it was
down on the left and is very down on the right. Now this case has had every upper level
rundown that you can think of, practically, without ever having been set up by Dianetics. The
case has body inflammation, skin inflammations, these are just psychosomatic illnesses. Now
your other index is your Chart of Human Evaluation of Science of Survival.

Now if you trace out one of these characters, give me another one, and you find them down
some place on the Chart of Human Evaluation, you've got a parallel comparison to your
OCA/APA, and the Chart of Human evaluations is more valid.

Now so this person has had their graph raised, they've had a graph rise. Fine, but they still
have psoriasis. Now what is all that about? Well, their attitudes and ideas and so forth have
shifted but the body has been left there. Now when they don't do a good solid beginning
preparation with Dianetics, then when they start to pull these idea out of the engrams they will
tend to group. So that when a case is not thoroughly run on Dianetics, when you have quicky
Dianetics you can expect some, a case that had very bad psychosomatic difficulties you could
expect that case to hang fire. And that is why we don't let anybody on Advanced Courses now
with a low OCA. Do you follow it?



So these cases that you're auditing, in many, many instances have gone onto Advanced
Courses without having been set up. Here's one here. Now this case had what she called a
Clear cognition, and I'm sure that was the case and etceteras. But for some reason best known
to man or beast, it left all of her attitudes in place which have never been run out. So her
attitudes are very poor indeed and they're kicking her brains out right now. It's interesting that
this case is apparently being, not been run against an OCA. I don't see any OCA.

Now I'll tell you why-ah, here's an OCA. I'll tell you why the Chart of Attitudes is more
valid. Because an OCA or an APA can be all along the top and then in auditing sink. And it
will go down either on the left or the right. and it will come back up again. Now a person who
is terribly out of valence can be very theetie-wheetie and this is what you call a theetie wheetie.
It's a person with a terribly high OCA who is absolutely for the birds. You got it? Your Chart
of Attitudes will tell you the truth. The OCA/APA or any other test will not because the person
has various characteristics which you'll find on the Chart of Attitudes, I mean the Chart of
Human Evaluation, pardon me. They'll have communication twists and they will have
Psychosomatic illnesses and they will have this and they will have that. And you look along
here and you will see that that case is reading at about 1.8 or about, you know, 2.1 or 0.3.

You can imagine some pcs say, "Oh, I just adore death. Yes, funerals, I just can't stay away
from funerals. They are so nice." You give them a message to give down at the corner and that
message never arrives, or you tell them, "Tell Joe I thought that was nice of him." Joe comes
along and hits you in the nose. Why? Well, they said, "Bessie Ann said you were a dirty
stinker." Twisted communications and there you are, there you are. It's a down on the right.

Now this person had a very interesting quick, fast Dianetic run with a super cognition, had a
Clear cognition and that was that-person's very sick. Why is the person sick? I don't know
why the person's sick. Her auditing is all for the birds. So the attitudes in auditing, the
person's an auditor also, so the attitude in auditing is of interest to you as an auditor. There's
an evil purpose sitting there, never been hit, never been touched. Person's going to go on and
do themselves in.

Now some of these people are on OT grades and somebody's going to tell you that it's
impossible for you to run these. So I hope that there are amongst you somebody who is at least
in the middle band of the advanced courses to run such a case as that because you will run into
some OT phenomena trying to run it out. Is that true? You got that pretty well taped, all right.
You ought to watch it because you could blow your own head off. It's not that it's terribly
dangerous but it's very restimulative.

Now this poor guy is in constant ethics trouble. All he has to do is sit down and he's
immediately in ethics trouble. I mean, he's got some kind of magnet on him that drags in
Ethics Officers like he had a chain on them and he was running a huge car salvage winch. He
roller coasters. He went uptone. He went very uptone briefly and then he went downtone again
when life became just a little bit too thick. I don't see his OCA, I don't see an OCA. Now this
guy had an improvement of skin, he had an improvement in skin. You don't even need an
OCA-all you had to do was look at him. No joking about it, I mean, he's visually, visibly
psychosomatic ill. It's sitting right there. And it roller coasters and he feels very bad indeed.

Now I can't find an OCA and it's quite remarkable that this person has been audited
without one. What the hell did they think they were doing? That's great.

Now there's another one, you make sure you get OCAs on these characters before you start
auditing them where they don't have them. I can't find one here. You get him an OCA.

Now once more he's probably being audited over his head in some fashion or another. First
Dianetics, single grades, and not apparently on board and no record of them in the tank. Well,
that is very helpful. You're running into missing folders. Doesn't matter much in your case.



MO report "Pc wants Dianetics, sores on knuckles." And he actually has gotten up to a point
where he did lose some of his skin difficulties. But there's plenty more there to be done.

Now you start bringing this case down on the basis of, what is it, his attitudes or his this-
a's or his that-a's or the other thing. You start breaking that down on that type of assessment
which I gave you and you'll get something. And I would take it first and foremost immediately
straight off in auditing, you see. And he's such an ethics magnet that you probably would get it
in ethics, see. So you could do a little assessment or some kind or another.

Now that brings you up to how you could double or treble assess. You can say, you can take
all the areas where the guy is, you know, like ethics, post, Flag, so on, so on, so on. Assess
that down, you see. You got no former folders, you don't know what he's been run on. You
assess that down one way or the other and you get a nice read there and you take your nice
read and you bring it over here to pain, you know, sensation, emotion, attitude, which one is
that by saying, "On Flag has there been pain, there's been . . ." and so forth. Take your best
read as that, get your, then immediately draw up your R3R list - "What attitudes?" see, "What
emotions?". You bring it right across. Actually this is the trick of restimulating a guy or putting
his attention on something so you can run it out. Pinpointing, you don't necessarily take Flag,
you see, and just run Flag. That's narrative, see.

Now lets look at this prize. Now this guy is a prize because he has been sick, sick, sick, sick,
see. Now look at that - way down on the left, way down twice on the right see. He's trying to
do himself in and do other people in. But he isn't really even there to do himself in, you get the
idea? See, he's out of valence so he wouldn't be doing himself in.

All right, here's two right here, "disgust" and "depressed", and there's no EP on either in
`69-an incorrect R3R "wanting to cry" and "nervousness", no EPs. Somebody really had a
ball.

So you obviously, you would take his present time environment then you could take his
auditing-now you get into life. See how this works. Gives you adequate stuff, here he's
obviously super-misemotional and couldn't run it. Therefore, an attitude is an engram.
Nobody's ever noticed it. So they ask him in auditing for an engram, pardon me, they ask him
in auditing for an ARC break and it just pulls an engram right up with it, you see. So that you
give an emotion and where people would just normally blow the emotion and that would be
that, you know, something like that. No. He couldn't, apparently the auditor-don't always
blame the auditor-he couldn't get down the bank on emotions in general. So that shows you
the case has been utterly missed.

Now, somewhere he'll read on a meter, be some current zone of his life or current zone of his
own activity and that will have pains, sensations, emotions or attitudes and that will match up
and all of a sudden-boom. And then that will read well and you do R3R on that and all of a
sudden why, he will have an interesting win.

Now some of these people, some of these people can't get an engram to erase. Now that is a
peculiar thing. That is very peculiar. And that is too much auditing, and that is just L3B. And
that normally would be an L3B cleared. Now in doing this project there are certain things you
will do. You're not going to clear an L3B twice. So you want to mark it over here on your
folder summary when you've done one of these things, loud and clear, so that it can be C/Sed.
Do you see that? So what have you got here? You've got a, there are certain things you have to
do on all of these cases because they're just, they're just missed. The skipped gradient,
Dianetics.

Now you've done a, somebody was doing L-, well here's one that's really no cogs on ARC
straightwire, F1 only. Secondaries and engrams run in `66, both with pc surprised at the F/N.
Pc very nervous of auditing. Ah, that's itself, it's just the same thing I'm telling you over and
over and over. Probably present time environment "What is it? What's the pain, sensation,
emotion", run it, something like that. "What's been your at-, who's been auditing", and get



that run. "Oh, I've had so much trouble running engrams and it's this and that and the other
thing." Well, take an L3B.

Now the L3B can be itself a rundown. It can he a rundown all by itself. You just do L3B
general and you just R3R on doing L3B, all 80, and you just keep on doing L3B. And the
normal way you do it is to do L3B method 5, just the whole thing. And then you take up these
various, well, what you do, I'll, you clear the L3B even though they've been around. And
then you do an L3B method 5 and then you take the best reads off it. Now you can take up, if
you want to, and fly them, small falls but you never take up ticks or stops. Never take up a
rise. That is the reverse, that is the guy going into restimulation. And then you handle those
things the way you're supposed to handle it and then you assess it again but you don't get an
F/N all the way through. And you get another read and you hit that one and you assess it all the
way through again and you get another read, and you assess that one. And what you're
working for is a method 5 that F/Ns just from the beginning to the end.

Now the way you can cheat on this is to give the guy one hell of a win. Now you really got
quickie auditing. You give the guy a hell of a win and he's got a persistent F/N and so, very
very hastily call off the whole list rapidly while he's not listening to you at all, and you will get
it every time. So you don't reassess after the persistent win. Wait until tomorrow. So, that is
letting the pc have his win. Right?

Now you can get a pc protesting just because he feels so good about everything that he doesn't
want to look at his bank anymore and he's all extroverted and that sort of thing. Well, that's
the time to know off and find another pc.

Jesus God, has this person had auditing! Wow, wow, wow! Now you re right away going to
ask me, "What about tripling? What about tripling up somatics and that sort of thing?" Actually
I regard this as a little bit dicey, definitely dicey. Now quad is perfectly OK except it's dicey.

There's something I got to mention to you. If you run quad after a person has been run triple,
you leave bypassed charge. And the only thing about tripling up is just so that you won't leave
bypassed charge. Because if you run triple after the person has been run single without
bringing it up, he gets bypassed charge. Got it? And he'll feel all ARC broken and he'll want
to know how or why or anything else. Well, that's just keyed in the bypassed charge that had
been left sitting there. Quad is, been really unnecessarily maligned. But trying to quad the guy
up after he has been singled or tripled is so difficult, and you get so many flubs on it and so on
that you could only start a brand new person out on Dianetics on quad, four flow, adding the
zero.

But there's a sort of a lie about the zero anyhow and there's a lie about flows anyhow because
they're to a marked degree they're all his own flows. So I do not, I do not-I think you will
probably have to bring some of these cases up to triple. But that will be difficult because the
case isn't ready to run on that sort of thing. The way to do it in actual fact, just thinking on my
feet how to get over this bridge because this is a tough one, I would try to just triple it. And if
the person felt ARC breaky or that sort of thing, then go back. I mean, just run it triple. You
assess something, run it triple, and if he's too chopped up or something like that or starts
getting ARC breaky or something like that, then go back and assess your former single list and
finish up it's triples. Don't try to put in every one of them. Put in only those that read. You
won't find many or them that do triple up.

It's difficult for an auditor to do this, you know, run two and three as flows and so on. And
I've had a lot of students, when I've been C/Sing, I've had a lot of trouble with this. So it's
sort or, would, might make more trouble for the pc by trying to triple it up than just trying to
now run it triple. Do you see what I mean? So I think you should meet the trouble after you get
to it rather than try to super-prevent the trouble. Because we've got one guy with singles but
we don't have any lists so we'll have to do that anyway.



There is no OCA. You'll have to get an OCA out of this one. I know that it is probably way up
at the top of the graph.

Had a false TA check and list corrected and VA corrected and Int was corrected, and a lot of
things were corrected here. Jeeesus, God, a drug rundown not complete. No single action's
been completed on this pc except recent correction lists, Ad Course review. I feel like it's a
new beginning, oh good.

Now you want to look and see if she's got an L3B and she'd be very suspect as having been
run over misunderstood words. Anybody's had that much trouble, they didn't understand
what the auditor was talking about anyhow. It must be a very, very rough case. I don't see
that. This case has run up a championship number of dev-T chits.

I am absolutely amazed that some of these haven't had OCAs. You get OCAs on these things. I
won't C/S without one of these things and you shouldn't either. You shouldn't, be running
them you should know what you are running. Not a trace of one. That funny? Because Otto's
been auditing this case. Otto's been auditing this case and he's been auditing this case without
an OCA.

Student: (We usually put them in a Scientology folder.)

Huh?

Student: (We usually put them in a Scientology folder.)

You don't tell me that you guys have changed the folders? Oh. Of all the people not to have an
OCA, that one's for the birds. It will fall under the same category. This person tends to be
theetie-wheetie and so forth. You'd address it in just the same way.

And this one, oh, my god, yes. This one, oh, my god. I would absolutely insist that this
person had a Primary Rundown before I would touch it. HCO B 30 March. Don't, for god's
sakes, go near it without a Primary Rundown, you got it? You don't see the person's name
here. Because this person has cognitions which are very strange cognitions. You know, about
tech and things like that, you know. Almost as bad as, "I just realized that the command has
something to do with what the pc is doing on his bank." It's far out. And she's probably had
some piece of a Primary Rundown, see? But I would clear this case like mad.

I haven't seen this case's OCA. There's an OCA. Oooooh. Now, they claim they've done
great here and maybe they have done great. But look where this case was. The case has
probably had some very nice XII auditing, something like that, see. But look at that-on the
bottom on the left and almost on the bottom on the rlaht. And now has come up into a different
range. But your point here would be to look at this person from the viewpoint of a
psychosomatic illness on the Chart of Human Evaluation. Person still got some or these, still
got bad eyesight, still got this, still got that, ooh.

Now here is a bunch of folder errors. That's really corny. Grade IV rehabbed but never run
previously. I think that's marvelous. White form done but not handled. Scatter brain stuff.
And it normally will show up. I don't see an OCA here either so this - person-where were
you-just make it. a rule wherever you haven't got one of these OCAs and you can't find one
or it isn't recent, why - chase one up. You merely want it for improvement.

Now I'll tell you something. If the OCA has ever been down - expect that it's all there - always
choose your lowest OCA. The one I just showed you, down on the left, down on the right,
you treat that that way. In Dianetics, treat that that way. Well, what they've done is pull the
ideas out of the bank rather than otherwise.

All right, now here's a guy. Now he's way down over there but I dare say, that is probably,
that's 31/10/71 that that one was taken and that's all the one's they've done. Now he's, he's



not making it because of here. You see, that's a bit low. It probably has been lower but this
would be a case of misunderstood words.

On all these cats, you understand, you've got a sort of a rundown on all these people. You've
got a problem in misunderstood words or it would have communicated. You've got a problem
as there was engrams there and they didn't get run. You normally, because of a chronic this
long and been audited this long and so forth, you've got a problem that the auditing itself
formed engrams. You have a problem that their present time environment must seem very
dangerous or charged to them.

So you can almost work out as, just from the principles I'm telling you, you can almost work
out a very standard treatment of this particular lot of pcs-all of whom are chronically ill, see.
That, it makes a difference. So you've got a rundown of, find out what charged in the present
time environment. Transfer that over into your PSEA list, you know. Shake it out, run it and
so forth with regard to the present time environment and run it with regard to auditing and so
on.

Now one or two or three of them will be PTS or upset, so a PTS Rundown, the Dianetic PTS
Rundown has to come up. But don't get too enthusiastic because a PTS Rundown, doesn't
matter how PTS you think the person is or how sick you think the person is, you don't run
what the auditor thinks the pc is. You got it? You don't quite have it. It's what reads on the
meter that is real to the pc. Now when you say, this person's got to have a PTS Rundown,
well, you'll get away with it a lot of times don't you see? You'll get away with it because the
person's a normal running case. But on none of these cases could you run a PTS Rundown.
That would immediately and directly violate everything I'm telling you about these cases.
They're chronic sick people. You would be running somebody over on the right in pain or
something or something or something on a very specialized narrative sort of rundown that they
might not have any clue of. You see what'd be wrong with it?

When you say, "This person must have a PTS Rundown", you're saying this person has
people next to him who are antipathetic to or antagonistic towards Scientology so therefore he
should have a PTS Rundown. Perfectly true. Is the pc ready for the PTS Rundown? Usually
not. In none of these cases would he be. Now that's why you, the auditor, knowing what is
wrong with the pc, see, can make a hell of a mistake. So the pc is limping around on 3 canes
and he's got a loss of a missing leg, and you can say right away, "Well, the guy s got a
missing leg so therefore he must have engrams of all of that so let's just run . . ." oh, boy.
You say, "What's wrong with you?" And he says, "My nose itches", see. That's the only
thing you can get to read.

Now for instance we've got a case in Washington, Louie Belucci, would solve up on this. He
would solve up immediately on this if you just did this same rundown to his environment and
then took and shook it down for his, broke down your pain and so forth and ran that, and then
ran down new, his auditing, ran that out. Because a lot of it has been over his head. He's got a
steel shaft in his leg so everybody, he included, comes around and keeps presenting,
presenting, presenting this as the problem, see. And auditors either do or don't run it or
something of that sort. But it still remains a problem to him. He actually, probably isn't having
a problem with his leg at all. He's probably having a problem with the body, see. Maybe that
leg is just his revenge on bodies in general. Who knows what this is? It's what would read.
What's the pc worried about.

Now he isn't worried about these people who are antagonistic to him yet you know they exist
so you say, "Well, he's got to have a PTS Rundown." No, PTS Rundown would come
around when it came up. Be alright, so that, but what part of it can run? So don't try to wish
off on the pc something that he's not ready to get, you got it? So it's what reads. And as long
as you're there, you're safe, you're safe, and everything's great.

BD item, oh, that'll run like a bomb. A BD item that F/Ned when he said it, oh that's great,
that's marvelous. Run it. Because it F/Ned has nothing whatsotver to do . . That's just there,



it's keyed out for a moment, it'll key back in ten minutes or six months, who knows. Let's
immediately, let's grab it, let's run that thing see. But is he in a state that runs, what? What's
he going to run with regard to this? The pc, half the time, he's so afraid of running pain, that
his mind concentrates on pain. It doesn't occur to him that there's any emotion connected with
the fact. that he hasn't got any left ear. Do you see? So the question actually doesn't
communicate.

This person has had a rough time from time to time. This person is in ethics trouble from time
to time and I imagine there should be an OCA here. Yup! Here we are. See, down on the left
somewhat, down on the right more than somewhat, see? Same treatment.

All right, that's good enough. I've shown you enough of these things. You know what the
general theory of it is. Now you start running out psychiatry as a narrative item that doesn't
read well and you're going to be in trouble. Pc's going to be in trouble. They've been
practicing psychiatry as long as there've been implanters. And he can go right back into the
bank. So that's why I give you this other gradient scale, a gradient scale of running. Yes, it'd
be very nice. Psychiatry would have to read like mad. It would have to be really real to this
guy before you start running something like that. Now you run all the attitudes out of it or you
run all of the emotions out of it or all of this out of it or that out of it, or something like that,
and then after you're running it for a long time, you run an entirely different chain and you
find, suddenly find yourself, the guy's blowing psychiatric engrams that he didn't even know
he had. Do you see what's the difference? So you're actually, you run down, run a little bit
deeper, run a little bit heavier, more, more, you finally get there. Got it?

Now you, in running this sort of thing, are the person who will be with the pc. So therefore it
is very difficult for a C/S to see what would be available with the pc. So therefore your C/Ses
as auditors must take into consideration what I've been telling you. You have to take into
consideration what's sitting there in front of you. How does this guy react? How does he
respond? Guys that are very slow and have awfully slow comm lags and don't cognite very
much and so forth, you're running them too deep. They're just running too deep. You better
find something feather, you better find a featherweight something for that person to run, that's
all. And you can fish him out of it.

You see, actually, if you choose the depth at which you're running the person that fits the
person, all pcs are easy pianola cases which F/N, Cog, VGIs. See, it is you regulating what
you ask him and put his attention on. It's what you're, you regulate that. You don't say, "The
trouble with this fellow is . . ." and then sort of hit him with it, see? You got it? You sort of
ask him what he thinks is the trouble with him. And then you take it at, by test, at what depth
is good. And you'll, he'll do nothing but run that.

There isn't any reason, the only reason, the only reason under the sun, anybody for instance
would be having skin trouble, inflammation, breakouts, anything like that, any of those things
and so forth is simply engrams. They're all engrams.

Now I'm talking to you by the way on material research up to about OT, oh I don't know, 20.
It would be so difficult to run some of this stuff engramically, the person would never go near
it probably. And when they're not thoroughly prepared with Dianetics and when they don't
have all of their drugs off or anything else, they could never really come within it. So then,
they don't get much benefit out of it and it really, they can restimulate themselves, see?

But I'm telling you that all of them are engrams. It doesn't matter what level you're running.
You're still running Dianetics.

And I was busy researching the other day and this is one of the things that caused this project
to come about-is I was busy researching and I looked this thing over from one end to the
other and I looked over anything I had run into on the back track. We're still running engrams.
And just exactly what happens?



There's one more caution I'd like to give you, is the sequence or a person getting injured is he
decides to. And his purposes very often come after an injury. Now let me show you how this
works. He gets a motivator so he says I'm going to ruin those people, see. The motivator,
"ruin those people", etc. But now, this thing will operate as a prior decision and it will even
operate as a prior decision to injure himself. So when you're busy running this, when you're
busy running these things and so forth, remember not to skimp your EB. Also don't over-do
your EB. But don't skimp it. When you start grinding, it's either EB or ES, earlier beginning
or earlier similar. Don't grind, find that out right away. About the third or fourth time that
you've undone ABCD, something like that, boy, if you haven't got on that basic, if you
haven't got an erasure, you've got an EB. Well don't be dilatory in asking for it. Don't slow
down in asking for it- dilatory-(slow down, loaf). You got it?

All right. So all this really amounts to, all this really amounts to when you look it all over from
one end to the other, all it really amounts to is bleeding the case of every single piece of
Dianetics that you can get to read-anything that you can get to read well on the person. That's
what's important about the whole thing. And the way to get the person winning all the way and
not bogging down all the way is uniformly to choose from the light to the heavy. And after
you've run them a while, and run pain, you may find you have a whole new bank area.

By the way, it was very amusing on this pc who didn't understand any words. It was
interesting. I mean, this person's very glib. They said, "Oh yes, yes." They knew what "can't"
and "is" and so on. It isn't the hard words, you see, it's the stupid ones, you know the little
ones. And this person's glib as hell. And oh she knew all those things but drugs hadn't run
and she couldn't go back track and it was all very difficult and all bogged down and so on. The
commands were all out but she couldn't be corrected because the words in the correction lists
were all out. But the correction lists had been used on her and the commands had all been used
on her and it was these things which had prevented her from going back track. She didn't even
know what she was supposed to do.

Now and auditor just with intention, can run the pc up and down the track but imagine trying
to get erasures or something like that when the pc didn't know what case meant or something
of this sort, see. Nonsense.

Now going back to, really, when I was really knocking around Dianetics in `69, I mean, I was
doing a lot of C/Sing on the line, there was one mistake that was very often made which I want
to call to attention so that it won't get made again, and that is the one more time through would
have brought the TA down. The picture disappeared, it was erased but the energy was still
there and that is a rather constant error, was in those days. It took the one more time through,
and sometimes what the guys would get would be a high TA with a person saying that it had
erased. They just missed the one time through or the EB postulate on the beginning of the
thing. The TA would have come right on down, boom. of they wouldn't get a cognition
because they didn't run it that one more time through. They pack it up, they chop it.

So if you re running at the level of depth which I'm describing to you, you should get a
cognition. So don't cut it off at the end of the line. All right, so your needle started to F/N, the
pc hasn't had a cognition yet and so forth. Don't give him "that's an F/N, that's it", so forth.
Because now he'll be sitting there with the decision he made at that time still on the bank. That,
funny things happen about something like this. He'll come up maybe days later and say he just
had an idea that something or other, see. Sometimes they write up, like, you get it on a Daily
Report, "I had a good session and I'm still cogniting." Oh brother. Auditor cut the F/N see.
He's still in session.

Now be perfectly frank to ask questions along in this line. I'll keep an idea on the thing. I
won't ask, do you have any questions right now?

Student: (Some of these people are already on rundowns.)

Are already . . . ?



Student: (On the rundowns, like the ones that Otto has gotten and David's got one.)

Yeah, alright, so let them finish the rundown. You don't need them all at once. It's a matter of
scheduling. It's all right. Good. I don't say they won't make it, but I won't say they will, not
about the people who've been around this long. You see, because they're still pulling this of
pulling the idea out of the bank, getting the person to change his mind, you know, click, click.

Some of your OT III, OT phenomena and so forth, will get in your road but it isn't, you
needn't pay too much attention to it. You needn't pay too much attention to it. It'll handle
anyhow. So the guy s clear and he doesn't have any more engrams and the body seems to be
putting engrams. Run `em, see.

All right. Any other questions?

Student: (Just one. In one of the cases, she's in the middle of the Clearing Course).

One of these in the middle of the Clearing Course, that's in a No Interference Area. Never
should have gotten onto the Clearing Course. Must have come aboard, right?

Student: (Oh, she's been aboard for a while but she never have been on the Clearing Course.)

Oh, never should have been on the Clearing Course. That's some, that was a gross error,
gross error. She been on it for some time?

Student: (She been auditing?)

Another student: (Yeah, she's been soloing for quite a while.)

Ah, it's too bad, it's too bad. You're gonna mess `em up. That's bum. There is a way you
could handle it. If she isn't coming through and she isn't finishing up the Clearing Course, she
could run out her auditing. That is, that is feasible, don't try to run out anything else, and get
her back on the Clearing Course. It's about all you could do. You could try to run, you maybe
could run environment and auditing. You wouldn't dare go any deeper. Just the way I told
you, you see, an assessment of the environment, what read, assessment of persons sensation,
emotions and attitudes and what those read, in auditing. You run the environment that way and
then take auditing the same way. You could run auditor, auditing, you know, the old VIII list.
You look into the VIII materials and so forth. There's a whole list of, the standard one -
Dianetics.

Scientology, auditors, auditing. You know, that list. You can go down that list and instead of
using it as a prepcheck just use it just as a detector list of what in auditing to hit. Perfectly OK.

I heard the other day these were all confidential. Actually there's only a few things in VIII that
are confidential. It's those that apply to the OT levels. That's confidential just to keep from
knocking people's heads off.

All right. Any other questions? OK. Now I want to be very close on this line so who's going
to do this C/Sing? We haven't decided who's going to do this C/Sing. It isn't on this, is it?

Student: Was going to be David (Meyers)

Huh?

Student: (David Meyers)

Well, he would have to check out very heavily, yeah, "Such is to be C/Sed with LRH as senior
C/S". That might or might not occur. That, there is a bug here. I haven't in actually, the least



aversion to C/Sing. That's something I'm perfectly happy to do and the probability is that the
output of three or four Dianetic auditors, see, takes about as long to C/S as it does to eat
dinner. I mean, there's nothing much to that, if the auditors are doing a good job. If the
auditors are doing a good job, piece of cake. If the auditors are not doing a smooth, standard
job, are running into trouble of one kind or another, it's rough. That's very rough C/Sing, can
take you quite a while.

So I'll do the C/Sing on this perfectly alright with me. In spite of the fact that my own hats are
kind of pushed off but I've got this sort of cooled off a bit, crossing my fingers. Getting the
ESTO system is working and that's going in better. And I'm suddenly finding out that there
were certain camouflaged holes on the line so I'm getting those adjusted and there were certain
missings. When we, we came off momentarily just because of the ESTO system, we came off
the org, Product/Org Officer System, and when the Org Officers were forgotten-and by the
way, they came, they went off before the ESTO system came in. Boy, didn't that throw the cat
amongst the pigeons because it leaves a Product Officer busy getting a hold of all of his
programs. He can't run them down, it can't be done.

As a result, the missing Org Officers on this ship are being made up by me. There're several
Org Officers. I don't mind displacing two or three hundred people but sometimes it gets a little
bit thick-when I can't also wear my own hats, that is.

So I will C/S this line but "cases to be lined up" and so forth, "the D of P, Dianetics HCC",
now you've got some D of P people, and so on. "The program's to be written for each case to
briefly repair and do real Dianetics on." You got that one? All right. Well, that one you can get
busy on and when it gets down here to the C/Sing when you've got one of these cases fully
programmed and so forth, send it up to me, I'll give you an OK and send it on down. All
right?

My C/Sing for you sometimes has the disadvantage that I'm not on deck instantly available on
something like that but the way to get around that is to don't get in that much trouble.

All right. Thank you very much.

Students: (Thank you sir.)

END OF TAPE

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