AUDITING DEMONSTRATION Session with Mrs. White 7 June 1950

AUDITING DEMONSTRATION Session with Mrs. White 7 June 1950

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AUDITING DEMONSTRATION

Session with Mrs. White
7 June 1950

Bringing Preclear to Present Time

In a diagnosis when you're going through a case, if you strike a moment of pain you can't
handle right away, immediately bring the patient up to a point when he is all well, and then
firmly establish him in that moment. The purpose of this is to digest the track again.

Don't do what a man did recently. He sent his wife back to the time when she had measles and
then said, "Well, that's very interesting. Now come up to present time." Two days later she
was covered with spots and went to the doctor to find out what was wrong with her.

And the doctor said, "Well, this is a strange case of measles, because there's no respiratory
infection, but these are undoubtedly measles spots."

Of course, in three or four days they were all gone again when the engram destimulated. But if
he had used amnesia trance or narcosynthesis on her and gone through this measles incident
just once, it would have stayed there and then the person would have been sick with measles. It
really would have keyed in.

You don't do this with reverie. The person is perfectly well aware of you. The worst you will
get by yanking a person out of an engram straight on up the line and bringing the engram up to
present time is some slight kickback on the person. But by leaving the incident on the track and
bringing the person forward to a day or so after he is well, you firmly establish him as being
well in present time.

That is a caution that is not much stressed in the Handbook, because here was a man who read
the Handbook and gave his wife a case of "measles." These things are not serious, but they
have to do with the comfort of the patient.

LRH: Close your eyes. Now any time in the future that I say the word canceled, whatever
I've said to you while you're lying here with your eyes closed will be canceled and will
become null and void and unaberrative. Okay?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the time when you won a fight with your husband.

PC: Hm. Never did.

LRH: Ah, yeah? (laughs) Well, let's see if we can contact a moment you did.

PC: Let's see.

LRH: See if we can contact the moment when you won a fight with him. (pause) What are
you contacting?

PC: I'm not contacting anything. I'm just trying to think of a fight we had.

LRH: All right. Trying to think of a fight.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the time when you get a brand new dress. A beauty.



PC: Yes.

LRH: Now, let's take a look at it.

PC: Yes.

LRH: What color is it?

PC: Navy blue.

LRH: How does it smell?

PC: Smell ?

LRH: Yes, just smell it. Take a look at it and smell it.

PC: Hm, it has a smell. It smells like rayon.

LRH: Smells like rayon.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Well, how does the dress look?

PC: Looks lovely.

LRH: How does it sound when you handle it?

PC: A little crisp.

LRH: Hm-hm. And who's there with you?

PC: Henry.

LRH: Hm-hm. And what's he saying about it?

PC: He says it's all right.

LRH: Aha.

PC: A little surprised, but very nice.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Because it's a two-piece and it has a sailor collar on it which should make me look very
wide on top but somehow manages to make me look nice, which is just what I thought.

LRH: Aha. So he's in perfect agreement with this. How does he look when he's talking to
you?

PC: He's smiling.

LRH: Okay. Let's go back to the time when you're having a dinner party.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Who's there?



PC: Hm....

LRH: Let's take a look at them. Just take a look at them.

PC: I see them.

LRH: What are they saying?

PC: All kinds of nice things.

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the nicest thing you hear there.

PC: You mean the nicest thing somebody's saying?

LRH: Yes.

PC: That is a very smart little girl.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that.

PC: That is a very smart little girl.

LRH: Who is saying it?

PC: The piano teacher.

LRH: Oh? Now what's being said?

PC: That is a very smart little girl. Very unusual, very quick.

LRH: You feel good about this?

PC: Sure.

LRH: Oh, fine. Fine. Well, let's go back to the first day you go to school.

PC: (breathes in) Hm-hm.

LRH: The first day you go to school.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Now let's get the moment there. Did your mother take you to school?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the moment when she's leaving you in school.

PC: Hm. Perfectly all right.

LRH: All right. How does she look? What's the last thing she says?

PC: My mother?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: I don't remember.



LRH: Oh, let's try and take a look at her.

PC: I don't even see her very well. I don't see her at all as a matter of fact. I guess she
didn't take us to school, although she must have.

LRH: All right.

PC: My brother and I went together.

LRH: At the same moment?

PC: Yes, hold ing hands.

LRH: Aha.

PC: As far as I know she brought me in, yes. She had an argument because they didn't put
my brother and me in the same room. They insisted on putting me downstairs, because
I was two and a half years younger.

LRH: Aha.

PC: I remember now.

LRH: And what did they say about your brother?

PC: He belongs upstairs, he's a big boy.

LRH: And what did they say about you?

PC: That I didn't belong upstairs. (laughs) I didn't care, even if I am very small.

LRH: Well, all right.

PC: We were very big. I was seven and a half, or eight.

LRH: Do you feel upset there as you're talking about the teacher?

PC: No.

LRH: How does she look?

PC: Well, she looked as though she had a wig on, it was very high and dry and fuzzy, and
the kind of permanent wave that ladies used to wear. And she was covered with rouge
and lipstick and she had those kind of glasses that you pinch, and black eyebrows. And
I think it must have been false teeth and a big smile.

LRH: How does she sound when she talks?

PC: She had rather a musical high voice and she didn't speak exactly correct grammar, but
she was very nice.

LRH: All right. Let's listen to her voice there as she's saying something. YC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. How does it sound?

PC: Very nice.



LRH: Now, what's she saying?

PC: Oh, I think she al be very happy here, she can sit back down here and she can see her
brother when he goes by in the hall to get a drink.

LRH: Okay. Now, let's pick up a moment when you're getting spanked.

PC: Hm, that's easy.

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the moment, get a moment there when you're getting spanked.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. The first moment you're grabbed to be spanked.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Where are you grabbed?

PC: Hm, by the hair.

LRH: Okay. Now what occurs?

PC: Oh, I get walloped.

LRH: All right.

PC: Then I get told to shut up, or I'll get hit some more.

LRH: All right. Where do you get grabbed first?

PC: By my arms.

LRH: Hm-hm, and where's the wallop?

PC: My pants are pulled down and I'm smacked.

LRH: All right. Let's contact that moment of smack.

PC: Hm-hm. I can feel it.

LRH: All right. What's said there?

PC: I just hear yelling, and I `m being shaken.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And I'm screaming very loud.

LRH: Can you feel this being shaken?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Hm-hm. How do you feel?

PC: And then my head hurts. I'm probably being shaken by my hair.

LRH: Okay. And how do you feel about this?



PC: I'm very angry.

LRH: What do you say about it?

PC: I think I just scream.

LRH: Hm-hm. What's being said to you while this is happening?

PC: I just hear noise.

LRH: Just noise. Let's.go back to the moment of the first grab. (pause) The first moment
you're grabbed.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Now what occurs?

PC: I just get shaken very hard.

LRH: Then what occurs?

PC: Then my mother says, Bend over my knee.

LRH: Continue.

PC: The longer you wait to bend over, the more you're going to get smacked, (laughs) until
you finally do bend over.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: so I just scream louder and louder and louder, and stand there.

LRH: Then what occurs?

PC: She shakes me some more . . .

LRH: Okay.

PC: and I scream louder and then she finally pulls my pants down and pushes me over her
knee.

LRH: Okay. And then what?

PC: She whacks me.

LRH: Well, okay. What happens then? YC: Nothing. As far as I know I'm still there.

LRH: All right. And does she say, Stay there?

PC: No, she just smacks as hard as she can, and her hand keeps going up and down and
she is very, very, very angry.

LRH: What is she shouting?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Now, let's go back to the beginning, honey, and get the first smack.



PC: Uh-huh, it hurts.

LRH: All right.

PC: It's not with her hand, it's with a stick.

LRH: Okay, let's keep going on it. Now what occurs?

PC: I'm probably screaming something like, You're cutting me, or I'm bleeding. (laughs,
coughs) You know, I think I'm enjoying this being spanked.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: I'll teach you . . . something-I don't know what. Whack, whack, whack, whack,
whack.

LRH: Continue.

PC: But she doesn't stop.

LRH: All right. What does she keep on doing?

PC: Well, I don't feel anything anymore. Her arm just keeps on going up and down.

LRH: Well, let's go through it again. What does she say? The first moment of it. The first
whack. Contact that first whack. Is it as sharp as it was, or sharper?

PC: All I know is that my head aches.

LRH: Okay. Now what's she saying?

PC: She yells very loud .

LRH: All right. Let's contact the yell. (pause) Just keep on rolling.

PC: And her face is shaking and her mouth is very wide open.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: My hands are sweating.

LRH: Okay. Continue. What's she saying?

PC: I'm trying to think.

LRH: Just listen to her.

PC: I'm listening to her. She just makes a lot of noise.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But I don't hear; there's no sound coming out of her.

LRH: Hm-hm. Okay. Let's get to the end of it, the end of the licking.



PC: There is no end to the licking. Her arm just keeps going up and down and up and
down. And I guess I don't yell and scream so much anymore and I stop kicking my
legs. I must be hanging over her knee with my arms and hair hanging down this way.

LRH: Are you watching yourself? Or are you there over her knee?

PC: No, I'm up here.

LRH: Are you seeing yourself?

PC: No, I feel my hair and I can see my hands.

LRH: Okay. Let's go back to the beginning of it, and get the first whack again.

PC: But the first whack is up here someplace because I wouldn't pull my pants down.

LRH: All right. What did she do then?

PC: She shook me.

LRH: All right, can you feel that shaking?

PC: Yes, of course. My arm hurts.

LRH: Okay. What happens next?

PC: Then she pulls my hair and she slaps the back of me, here.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: I don't know what she's got in her hand, but it's not her hand.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Then she hits me-that's all. I wouldn't bend over.

LRH: Okay.

PC: so she pushed me over and she pulled my pants down.

LRH: What's she yelling as she does this?

PC: I will teach you you I will teach you,you....

LRH: Go over that again. I will teach you....

PC: I will teach you, you.... She doesn't say any more because she gets stuck on the word
you.

LRH: All right. What else goes on now?

PC: That's when she spanks me. The more she spanks the more I scream, because if I
scream very loud maybe she'll stop.

LRH: What are the sounds of the blows?

PC: There's no noise. All I hear is screaming and she is yelling and telling me to stop
yelling.



LRH: How does she say it?

PC: Stop yelling or I will give you something to cry for. I'll give you something to cry for.

LRH: Hm-hm. And?

PC: There, how do you like that? You want some more? I'll give you plenty to cry for.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'll teach you. I'll teach you. I'll teach you, you.... I'll teach you, you....

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know, because by then I gave up. My hands are down here.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of it and roll on through again. Get the first whack
and the shake.

PC: She doesn't say anything, she's just . . . yellmg.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't hear anything except moans.

LRH: All right. Now what's going on there? Where does it hurt you?

PC: My arm hurts and my head hurts because she has my arm and she keeps shaking me. I
told you to bend over, I told you to bend over.

LRH: Continue.

PC: No, I won't-I won't say anything, I just stand stiff because if I say anything she'll hit
my face.

LRH: Hm-hm. Then what occurs?

PC: I just scream.

LRH: Okay. And then?

PC: And then I get whacked on the back of my head and she pushes me over and she holds
my hands down and she whacks me.

LRH: What's she saying while that's going on?

PC: Moan, moan, moan. I don't hear anything.

LRH: Let's go over it.

PC: Just screaming, and tears are running down my face and I can see them. I mean they
run down my face and then I see them drop down here, and some of them are dropping
on her skirt.



LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And I can taste them . . .

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: and I can feel them, and I can feel air going down my throat while I'm screaming,
because when I'm through screaming I go Eeeeh (loud inhaling noise) backwards and I
make a nice, big noise. (laughs)

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And then she whacks me some more. And she says, Stop that, stop that, do you hear
me, stop that! And then she shakes my shoulder.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: And then I stop. Because she's going to go on longer than I do.

LRH: Okay. What does she say about that?

PC: Nothing, I'm just tying there.

LRH: Does she say, I can go on with this longer than you can?

PC: No.

LRH: Hm?

PC: No.

LRH: What does she say about keeping it up?

PC: I warn you.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I warn you

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I warn you I warn you I warn you (pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I get very frightened.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: She must be telling me she's going to do something because I feel frightened.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But I can't hear anything.

LRH: Okay. Letb contact the first part of it when you can hear something. (pause) Let's
contact the first part of it when you can hear something.



PC: She started telling me not to do that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; then murmurs) You bend over, you bend over. Because I wouldn't bend over
she grabbed my arm and shook me.

LRH: Let's feel that shaking.

PC: I feel being shaken.

LRH: Okay. Now what's she saying?

PC: Bend over

LRH: Continue.

PC: Bend over. The longer you stand there, the worse it's going to be for you Bend over.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: But I can't bend over because I'm too stiff to bend over. I couldn't bend for anything.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: so she hits the back of my head and turns me around. I had been looking at her till then.

LRH: Hm-hm. Then what occurs?

PC: She says, Take that face off.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: Take that face off

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can t help my face.

LRH: Continue. (pause) What occurs then?

PC: (small moan; pause) Well, I began to scream because I knew she was going to hit me.

LRH: How does the ruler sound?

PC: I don't hear any blows at all. She pushed me over. And I can feel my pants coming
down . . .

LRH: Yah.

PC: and I can feel my behind afterwards, it's very hot. And I can see it too, because I
looked at it in the mirror (chuckles) and it was very red, and it had little streaks across
it, but I can't feel it. And I can't hear anything except her yelling.

LRH: This won't hurt you?



PC: Oh, no. Stop screaming like that. Do you want the neighbors to think that I'm killing
you? You really want something to cry for? I'll give you something to cry for. Go
ahead, scream, see if I care. Scream, scream pretty loud, I'll really give you something
to scream for. I'll teach you. But I don't know what I did.

LRH: She says she's going to teach you.

PC: I'll teach you. I'll teach you to.... (pause)

LRH: Now let's contact the beginning of it. Are the pains as sharp this time as they were on
the first shake? Are they as sharp as they were?

PC: No, I just feel as though I'm being roughly pushed.

LRH: Okay.

PC: She didn't roughly push anybody, she pinched when she took hold of you.

LRH: Uh-huh. Feel the pain of the pinch?

PC: Ooh, no, not really. I mean I can feel it but it doesn't hurt.

LRH: Did it hurt?

PC: It didn't really pinch, she just kind of did this. It didn't really hurt, I just screamed.

LRH: All right. Continue on through with this. Roll it right on through. Just give me what's
occurring there.

PC: I told you if ever you did that again. I told you. Turn around and bend over and take
your pants down. You know what you're going to get.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Take that face off

LRH: Continue.

PC: You'll get one more for that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can t help my face. Don't talk back to your mother.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Turn around, I said . The longer you stand there.... (murmur)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Bend over, bend over. Wham.

LRH: You feel the pain of that?

PC: No, I feel pain on the back of my neck.

LRH: Well, let's go back to that blow on the back of your neck. Give me the words right
there at the moment of the blow. The sounds and the words of that blow.



PC: I feel as if she has punched me in the stomach-she certainly never did that.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to this incident there and pick up those blows.

PC: Turn around. Turn around and wipe that face off, wipe that face off. (laughs)

LRH: What?

PC: Wipe your own face off!

LRH: Is that what you say?

PC: No. I never said that to my mother. Maybe I wanted to say it, but I certainly never said
it.

LRH: What did she say?

PC: Nothing. Wipe that face off. Turn around.

LRH: All right. When did she say, Hold still, or anything like that?

PC: Stop kicking.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Stop kicking.

LRH: Run it again.

PC: I scream and scream. (panting noise)

LRH: It was a rough deal, wasn't it?

PC: Yes, on my back, I can feel it. She's either beating my back or punching me in the
stomach and maybe that's the line my mother mainly used.

LRH: Well, come up to the moment when you've completely recovered from this beating.

PC: I'm not recovered, I'm just tying there, I'm removed.

LRH: The moment you're completely recovered, a day afterwards.

PC: Errh.

LRH: Now do you remember being beaten up yesterday?

PC: Certainly.

LRH: How do you feel about it?

PC: Errh-since then she hugged me and kissed me a hundred times . . .

LRH: Oh?

PC: I . . and told me how sweet I was and how naughty I was and how bad I made her feel,
and how I must never do such a thing again because I'm such a sweet little girl, and
such a good little girl and how I make her upset and angry.



LRH: How do you feel about her when she's doing this?

PC: I feel very bad! That's very sad to do such things to your mother.

LRH: Oh, dear.

PC: Terrible.

LRH: Now let's come up about a week from there.

PC: Hmm.

LRH: What about getting that beating?

PC: Do you mean am I mad ? I forgot about that beating, I had another one soon.

LRH: (laughs) Okay. Come on up to present time.

PC: Ooh.

LRH: Present time.

PC: (quickly) I'm here. That's all.

LRH: Right. Just a moment now, give me a flash answer of any reason you have to be
motionless at this point?

PC: The only thing I can think of is that I'm happy to stay here. If I move something will
happen.

LRH: All right. Go over that line. If I move something will happen. I can't move.

PC: That's funny, my legs are....

LRH: Go over it, I can't move.

PC: I can't move.

LRH: It isn't moving.

PC: It's not I can't move.

LRH: It isn't moving.

PC: It isn t moving?

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: It isn t moving

LRH: Don't move.

PC: Don t move. (pause) Stand still.

LRH: Huh?

PC: Stop.



LRH: Stand still. Stop.

PC: (murmurs) Stand still. Stop. Don't move. (louder) Don't move.

LRH: All right. Go over it again.

PC: I m not moving. Don't move. I'm not moving.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Don t move

LRH: What somatic do you get with that Don't move?

PC: I m not moving

LRH: I'm not moving. What somatic do you get with that? (pause) What somatic do you get
with it? (pause) Does pain show up there someplace?

PC: Oh, I'm holding things very tight so that I won't have a pain.

LRH: All right. Go over that again.

PC: I m not moving. Don't move. I'm not moving.

LRH: What's this about holding things so tight you won't get a pain?

PC: I m not moving at all. I can't relax.

LRH: What incident is this?

PC: Relax. I don't know. I don't even know who that is.

LRH: Go over I can't move, I'll get a pain.

PC: I can't move. If I move, it hurts. It hurts if I move.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: It hurts if I move.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: There's somebody perfectly strange standing there that I never saw before, never.

LRH: What does he say?

PC: Relax.

LRH: About what?

PC: But I can't relax. I have no idea what this is all about, absolutely none.

LRH: How does the back of your neck feel?

PC: I don't know who he is.



LRH: How does the back of your neck feel?

PC: The back of my neck is stiff and sore, and my legs too, and so are all my muscles, and
I don't know who he is at all.

LRH: Now what does he say?

PC: I don't know. I don't even know who he is.

LRH: All right. Let's come up to a week after this experience. Come up to a week after this
experience.

PC: I don't even know what it is.

LRH: (chuckles) All right. You can identify it. Give me a flash answer, what is it?

PC: Oh, it must have been my mother, and somebody she knew that was a doctor.

LRH: A doctor?

PC: Must have been. It's a man I don't know.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: It seems very serious.

LRH: Is this an operation?

PC: No.

LRH: An injury to you?

PC: Just a man.

LRH: Birth?

PC: No.

LRH: Sickness?

PC: No. I can't believe it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can t believe it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can t believe it, that that's what she's got.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (small moan)

LRH: Go over it again. I can't move.

PC: I can't move, you'll have to loosen them.



LRH: Go over that again. PC You'll have to loosen them.

LRH: Can't move. Go over it again.

PC: Can't move. They're stuck that way, I can't move them, I can't move them at all, they
won't move.

LRH: All right. Letb go over those lines again. Let's see if we can contact the sonic on it and
run it again.

PC: (scattered murmurs) I can't move them, I can't....

LRH: Continue.

PC: I know they're stiff. I can't move them.

LRH: How's that pain in the back of your neck?

PC: can't do it, I....

LRH: How's the pain in the back of your neck?

PC: My legs are stiff, I know they're stiff. I can't move anyplace. I can't move anyplace at
all.

LRH: Continue.

PC: He's just standing there. He doesn't say anything. He's just standing there looking.

LRH: Well, what are the words that come through on this?

PC: But he's not saying anything.

LRH: Who's saying, I can't move?

PC: I am.

LRH: You sure? Go over I can't move.

PC: Or somebody else is saying it, but it's I

LRH: All right. Go over those words again. I can't move.

PC: I can't move, I can't move anyplace, plus my legs hurt. (pause) Everything hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I just can't move anywhere.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (crying)

LRH: Continue.



PC: (murmurs)

LRH: What?

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Run over it again. I can't move. Repeat the line I can't move.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: I can't move. Let's look at this thing. I can't move.

PC: It all went away

LRH: All right. Go over that again.

PC: Ooh.

LRH: It all went away. Repeat the line It all went away.

PC: It all went away. They're all gone. They're all gone. I can't move my legs. I can't move
my legs at all. I can't move I anything and it's all dark. There's nobody anywhere,
they've all gone home. There's nobody there to talk to.

LRH: Continue.

PC: There s nothing there; everybody's gone. There's no sound, there's nothing.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Something is spinning around and around and around and around and around.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (couple of grunts) I feel dizzy.

LRH: Do you hear somebody talking?

PC: Nobody's saying a word. There's just silence, there's just the thoughts. I think
somebody has me by the throat.

LRH: All right, let's contact it.

PC: That's strange.

LRH: Let's contact the first part of this, the first moment you get a somatic on this.

PC: There's nothing. It's all quiet and it's all dark. Then there's something in my throat.
Somebody picks me up by the back of the legs-it's not my legs, it's where my legs
would be.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I'm just going round in a circle all by myself. I'm in the center of the room.

LRH: Hm-hm.



PC: Going around in a circle.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: There's nobody there, not even me.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I'm absolutely sick to my stomach.

LRH: Go over the words There's nobody there.

PC: Theres nobody there.

LRH: Repeat the words again.

PC: There's nobody there.

LRH: Repeat the words again.

PC: There's nobody there. There's nobody there. There's nobody there.

LRH: I feel so sick to my stomach.

PC: Hmm....

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so sick Oh, I feel so dizzy.

LRH: What?

PC: I feel so dizzy. My head's going around, and something's wrong with my throat.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And the back of my head hurts, and the back of my legs hurt. And my legs feel stiff.

LRH: Does it make you feel tired?

PC: No, it doesn't feel anything. I don't feel queasy.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Right there.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: My legs, I can't move my legs.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Around and around and around and around I go, and my head hurts, and I can't move
my legs.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't move my legs, I can't move my legs. Oh, somebody's rubbing them.



LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts, my head hurts. My head. I can't move my legs. (heavy grief, howls and sobs)
I can't move my legs. (more sobs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (panting, howls)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing then howls)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing, sobs out words for a minute or more, then recovers calmer tone of voice)
Take her away. Take her away or I'll scream! I hate you. (breathing hard and spitting
out sounds) Go away. Take her away.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Take that cat out. I don't care what you do with her, take her out, take her out.

LRH: Continue.

PC: The poor cat.

LRH: Let's return to the beginning of this incident. Let's return to the beginning of this
incident.

PC: (pause) The cat is sitting in the middle of her.

LRH: What?

PC: Take her away, the cat is sitting on her. (pause)

LRH: Let's contact the beginning of the incident.

PC: She s got a cat there. Take that cat out, take the cat out. Take it out.

LRH: Okay. You know about this, you can remember this. You can remember this. (pause)
You can remember this.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Aya! You can remember this.

PC: The cat? It's a yellow cat.

LRH: Let's go back to I can't move. Let's repeat I can't move.

PC: But I can move.

LRH: Huh?

PC: I can move.



LRH: You can move?

PC: Certainly I can move. Of course I can move.

LRH: Okay. Come up to present time. (pause) All the way up to present time. Canceled.
(pause) Canceled. Okay.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: How was it?

PC: (draws in breath; pause)

LRH: Now, what on earth?

PC: Strange that I couldn't move.

LRH: Now who couldn't move?

PC: I couldn't. I mean me.

LRH: Before you were born?

PC: Before I was born. When I was born I was paralyzed.

LRH: Who said this?

PC: My mother (coughs) told me that when I was about 7years old.

LRH: Want to lie down and let me run this thing out now?

PC: All right.

LRH: Okay. Lie down and let me run this out. Close your eyes. Let's go back to the
beginning of the incident of I can't move. I can't move. I can't move. Repeat it. I can't
move.

PC: I can move.

LRH: Well, all right, but give me the line I can't move.

PC: I can t move.

LRH: I can't move-early, early, early, early, early, early-I can't move.

PC: (pause) I can't move, I can't move, I can't move, I can't move.

LRH: Contact it very early.

PC: I can t move, I can't move.

LRH: All right, contact it.

PC: I can t move.

LRH: Okay. I can't move.

PC: It's all over me.



LRH: Uh-huh. Now let's contact the voice there. I can't move.

PC: Oh, but it's not my voice.

LRH: All right.

PC: It's somebody else's voice.

LRH: Good. Let's roll it. Just tell me what you hear there.

PC: I can t move, I can't move, I can't move, I can't move.... I can't move my legs. I can't
move my legs.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can t move my legs.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can t move my legs.

LRH: Is there sonic on that?

PC: I cantmovemylegs

LRH: Continue.

PC: (raises pitch) Oh, my ears.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, she's screaming at the top of her lungs.

LRH: Continue. What's she saying?

PC: She's not saying anything. She's just screaming. My ears!

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh. Oh, my legs. Oh, I can move. She's saying, I can't move.

LRH: Fine. What's she saying there? Pick up what she's saying.

PC: She's saying, I can't move, and she's screaming at the top of her lungs. She's
shrieking. Everybody's running around saying, Who is that?

LRH: Continue.

PC: They're all running around. There's somebody in a white dress. She's fat and she has
red hair and she's running. She's running like mad. Why am I hanging here all full of
grease, and stiff? I can't move, I can't move a thing. I can't move a thing.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't move, and they shut it all down. Shut it all down. And I'm all full of grease and
I can't move.



LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm hanging by the legs, I tell you, full of grease and dizzy.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Full of grease and dizzy and somebody has me by the throat.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: I wish they would let go of my throat. How can they do this? And I'm all full of grease
and my head is still hanging down, and there it hangs. Hanging down, hanging down
and nobody's doing anything about it. She's screaming her lungs out. I can still hear
her. How can she go on so long? Ooh, I can't move, I can't move. I'm hanging there,
I'm all tied up.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: All tied up, with my head hanging down and I don't know what I'm hanging by, and
somebody `s swinging me, and somebody else has me by the throat. (coughs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (constricted noise in throat) I can't move, I can't move, I can't move.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She's stopped. I can't move, I can't move.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't move and I'm all tied up and I can't breathe, and the back of my head looks like
the insides of somebody's stomach.

LRH: Okay. [gap in recording]

PC: And it smells.

LRH: Now, what are you getting there? You know what this is all about.

PC: I am right back here.

LRH: You know what this is all about.

PC: Right back here. There's no covering on it, it's rolled up, it's a funny shape. She told
me it was shaped like a turnip; it isn't shaped like a turnip at all. Isn't that funny
looking. And I'm all covered with dark grease and I can't move. My hands are tied up.
They have let go of my throat, thank goodness.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: That's good. And she's stopped screaming. But I can't move. I'm just stuck there.

LRH: All right. Go over stuck, stuck, stuck.

PC: My head and my shoulders are out, and my arms are tied up.

LRH: Uh-huh. Who says stuck?



PC: Oh, nobody, nobody.

LRH: Go on. Let's see. Stuck.

PC: Stuck, stuck. Oh, my head hurts.

LRH: Go over the word stuck.

PC: Stuck. She's stuck.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Shes stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She s stuck She's stuck. She's stuck. It doesn't make any difference anyway.

LRH: Why?

PC: What difference does it make whether she's stuck or not? Forget about her.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Hm.

LRH: It doesn't make any difference.

PC: She s stuck it doesn't make any difference whether she's stuck or not. They do all the
rest. See what you can do about that mess up there. What are you going to do about
that? That same guy is there and there's somebody else there talking to him. .

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: What are you going to do about that mess up there? Never mind about that mess up
there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan) Oh, my head hurts and I can't....

LRH: Contact the voices.

PC: They must try to get that out of there. No, no. It's no use. It's no use, I'm telling you.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's no use.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's no use.

LRH: Can you move?

PC: No. I can't move.



LRH: Okay. Go over She's stuck.

PC: She s stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It doesn't make any difference whether she's stuck or not. Can't do anything for her,
she's gone.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again.

PC: She s stuck Sure she's stuck, you'd be stuck too. It doesn't make any difference
whether she's stuck or not, can't do anything about her. What are we going to do about
that mess up there? (murmur) I think I'm falling asleep.

LRH: Hm-hm. That's right. (sharply) Aya! We want the time when you're all the way out.
All the way out.

PC: Hm-hm. I'm still all tied up and I can't move.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can't wrap you up in a blanket.

PC: No, it `s not a blanket.

LRH: What is it?

PC: It's more of that same grease. (goes into howling sob)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobs, cries out) Oh, oh.

LRH: Let's move forward.

PC: (sobs)

LRH: All right. Listen. Two minutes more time gone by.

PC: Um.

LRH: Now five minutes have gone by.

PC: Um.

LRH: Now five minutes more have gone by. (pause) Now an hour has gone by. (pause) All
right. It's now five hours later than that. Where are you lying five hours afterwards?
(pause) Let's contact the moment they wrap you up in a blanket.

PC: It isn't a blanket.

LRH: What is it?

PC: It looks like torn sheets.

LRH: All right. Torn sheets.

PC: Oh, it's turning warm.



LRH: Are you warm?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Now let's bring this to a moment when you first get hungry. PC; (pause) I'm
not hungry.

LRH: You're hungry some time along there.

PC: Um.

LRH: A couple of days go by.

PC: I just have a headache.

LRH: All right. Let's come up five days after birth, five days after birth.

PC: I'm still tying in the same place and I have the same bandages on me.

LRH: Uh-huh. Let's come up ten days after birth. What are you doing ten days after birth?

PC: Somebody kneads the back of my head because it hurts. But I'm in the same place with
the same sheets wound around me.

LRH: All right. Go over this: She can't move, she's paralyzed.

PC: They roll me over.

LRH: What do you get?

PC: A lot of hair.

LRH: Okay.

PC: A lot of hair. It will never go down. (Who's saying these things?)

LRH: All right. Let's pick up a moment about being paralysed. Can't move her legs.

PC: She s got a lot of hair. It's very pretty, very curly. It will cover the bump. Makes me
want to cover it up for her. It's very pretty curly hair. There's such a lot of it and she's
so fat. She'll never move. She'll never move.

LRH: Go over that again. She'll never move.

PC: She'll never move.

LRH: Contact that voice.

PC: Hah, I guess it's somebody I don't know.

LRH: And what are they saying?

PC: She'll never move.

LRH: Run it again.

PC: She s shaking her head.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She should have long hair and it isn t long. (murmur)

LRH: All right. Come on up to the time when you're creeping around on the floor. Hiyah!
Come on up to the time you're creeping around on the floor.

PC: Um.

LRH: Hah! Take your hands off from your head.

PC: Um.

LRH: Up to the time you're creeping around on the floor. (pause) How does it feel creeping
around on the floor? How does the carpet feel under you?

PC: All right.

LRH: Let's contact the floor.

PC: All right. Feels good .

LRH: Feels good.

PC: Um.

LRH: All right. Come up to the time you're sitting in a high chair.

PC: I'm in a rocking chair.

LRH: All right. Feel the rocking chair?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How does it feel to be rocked?

PC: It's scary.

LRH: All right. What's happening in this rocking chair?

PC: It just moues back and forth. Every time it goes forth I feel as though I'm going to fall
off; now it comes back, I like the feeling on the back of my head.

LRH: Oh.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Come on up to your first day at school.

PC: Okay.

LRH: What are you doing there on the first day of school?

PC: De-chalking erasers.

LRH: All right. How does it feel?

PC: Fine, wonderful.



LRH: How do they smell?

PC: (chuckles) They hare no smell really, stuff gets in your nose, but it doesn't smell.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: No smell.

LRH: What are the other kids doing?

PC: They're busy, they didn't finish their work.

LRH: And how do the erasers sound?

PC: Just some thuds. Funny noise, I never heard it before.

LRH: You happy?

PC: Sure.

LRH: You feel very cheerful?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: How do you feel physically?

PC: Wonderful.

LRH: You feel good physically?

PC: Sure.

LRH: How big are the desks around here?

PC: Ooh, not so big.

LRH: Not so big?

PC: Nah.

LRH: How high are they?

PC: Ooh, I can put my hand on them when I stand up.

LRH: Aha.

PC: I'm much taller than everybody else.

LRH: Okay. Come on up to the time you get married.

PC: Yes.

LRH: How does that feel?

PC: Kind of silly. (chuckles)

LRH: Kind of silly?



PC: Yes.

LRH: Happy though?

PC: Ooh.

LRH: Hm?

PC: It's all right.

LRH: All right. Now come up to present time.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Present time.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Canceled. Five-four-three-two-one (snap! snap!).

PC: You know, I must have been at school about six weeks, and had the most wonderful
time while I was there.

LRH: And then what happened?

PC: My mother didn't approve of school. I She took us out. She took me out first, I guess.
It was only an old schoolhouse and they didn't hare enough textbooks and they didn't
teach us right and she didn't think I should be clapping erasers. That wasn't what a
lady's daughter did.

LRH: (chuckles) Well?

PC: Ooh, but I feel like I can still see myself wrapped up in the funniest looking torn sheets,
all greasy. In a strange bed, I don't know what the bed was.

LRH: Come up to present time! (three loud snaps; pause)

PC: (chuckling)

LRH: Okay.

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AUDITING DEMONSTRATION part 2

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AUDITING DEMONSTRATION

Sessions with Alan White
7 June 1950

Auditing Toward Clear

LRH: So we'll work now to discover what your mechanical recall is. I would like very much
to see if we can't recover a moment when you were really winning and felt good.

PC: Well, winning, I don't know. I can think of lots of moments when If eat good.

LRH: Well, how about when you won something, or what's the last piece of real good news
you got?

PC: Nothing comes into my head particularly.

LRH: The last piece of real good news, your somatic strip can go to it.

PC: Well, there have been several pieces of good news since I got my new job.

LRH: Hm-hm?

PC: I think of one very good one which in a sense was me winning, was when I made an
outline for a possible series of articles on a book about a political figure . . .

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: and all of its potentialities for other articles and a very important campaign and gave it to
Peters and he took it up with the publisher, Frederick. And Frederick sent back a memo
in which he was very pleased and very impressed, and said that I had done a wonderful
job.

LRH: Let's pick up the moment somebody's telling you there that you have done a wonderful
job.

PC: That's when I'm reading the memo from Frederick which Peters has handed to me.

LRH: Okay. Let's be right there and read that memo.

PC: Yup.

LRH: See it?

PC: Yup.

LRH: Good. Now what do you contact with regard to it? What does it say?

PC: Uh....

LRH: Take a look at it.

PC: Yeah. It's a page and a half memo, typewritten.

LRH: Hm-hm.



PC: And it goes into the whole plan very thoroughly as I outlined it. Mentions one problem
in connection with the articles and suggests a way of overcoming them by getting
quotes from prominent businessmen. And this one aspect is covered in the last
paragraph which says, White is to be congratulated on having done a very thorough and
intelligent job.

LRH: Now let's take a look at that line, let's feel some of the pleasure you felt there as you
were reading it.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Let's be right there.

PC: It was good, I felt fine.

LRH: All right. Let's read the line and feel that pleasure.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now, what are the sounds there right after you finish reading that line? Go
ahead and look it over. Read the line.

PC: Yeah. As I'm reading it I don't hear anything. But afterwards I hear Peters' voice
saying, Well, you see, so he likes it.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: In his very gruff way in which he talks but with a smile which shows that he is pleased
too. Then he says, Can you go ahead and get those quotes Frederick wants ? And I
said, Yes. I'm sure I can.

LRH: Okay. Now, how does it make you feel there?

PC: Fine.

LRH: Are you sitting on anything there?

PC: Yeah, on a leather-upholstered chair with wooden arms.

LRH: Can you feel it while you hear those words?

PC: ah-kind of.

LRH: Okay. Let's listen to the words again, and feel the chair.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. Do you feel pleased while you're sitting there?

PC: Sure.

LRH: Good.

PC: Very nice.

LRH: Good. Now let's see if we can't return to the time when you're talking to your father.
Is your father alive?



PC: Yes, he's alive.

LRH: All right. Let's return to a time when you're talking to your father.

PC: Hm-hm. .

LRH: How does he look while you're talking to him?

PC: Well, we saw him Christmas time, but I remember particularly when he came back
from Europe last summer. I can see him sitting in the living room.

LRH: All right. Let's be there with him.

PC: Yeah. By the big table, and he's going through a lot of the postcards of all the pictures
he saw. He went to all the museums he could get in, in one month. And he's going
through the cards and talking about them. Martha is standing beside him looking at
them.

LRH: How do you feel while you're standing there?

PC: Just fine, it's a very nice scene there, because I'm very fond of him and I'm very fond
of Martha, and it's nice to see them enjoying the same thing together.

LRH: Well, now let's go back to when you're talking to your mother.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let's take a look at her.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: What does she say?

PC: Well, Ipicture her last as she was in the hospital before she died.

LRH: Uh-huh. What is she saying to you?

PC: She's saying, I don't know what I would have done without you during this time.

LRH: Okay. Can you pick up the sonic on her voice there?

PC: Not too well. I can't really hear it, Ijust know the words.

LRH: All right. Let's take a look at her.

PC: Yeah, she's pretty sick. Very, very deep dark circles under her eyes.

LRH: How do you feel while you're looking at her?

PC: It's hard to say. All during that I had almost no feeling. But I feel good that she feels
good that she has had somebody during a time when she was so sick that would come
and see her and help her. So it's a good feeling to know that I was able to do that.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: But the feeling directly about her, however, almost doesn't exist as a feeling.

LRH: Hm-hm. Well, do you think maybe she'll die while you're standing here?



PC: No, not while I'm standing here. But I think she's very likely to die during the course
of the time she's in the hospital.

LRH: Uh-huh. Now let's come up to the time when she dies.

PC: Yes.

LRH: What's the first moment you hear the news of her death?

PC: Jean came home from the hospital early in the morning. She had gone to see her very
early, about 8 o'clock, and came home and told me that she had died.

LRH: All right. Let's take a look at her while she's telling you.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How is she saying it?

PC: She's saying it very quietly to me, I believe in the hall, because she doesn't want the
kids to hear. She doesn't know yet how to tell them about it-Martha particularly, who
knew my mother and was fond of her. And she's saying it under her breath pretty much
and telling me the details. She had died just a very short time before she got to the
hospital.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And that she went into the room, as a matter of fact, without knowing that she had died.

LRH: And what occurred?

PC: I don't remember. I think she went and found a nurse.

LRH: What's she telling you?

PC: Jean is telling me this about my mothers death, that she found a nurse and the nurse
said she had died just a very short while before.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the first moment you receive this news of your mother's
death.

PC: Yes. The first word was when Jean came home.

LRH: And what does she say?

PC: She said, She's dead. She died just a few minutes before Igot there.

LRH: How do you feel when you hear this?

PC: No feeling.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the moment she says this and let's go through it again. Let's see
her as she comes in and let's contact what she says. You know where you are there
now?

PC: Yeah. I'm in the hall of the apartment. And Jean'& come in the door, and she says,
She's dead, she died just a few minutes before Igot there. I can see it and remember it



but I can't hear it though. And there was no particular feeling that I had one way or
another. I'd been expecting her death for quite a while, so it was no surprise.

LRH: Let's go back over it again, and let's see if we can't contact this very solidly. How does
she look when she comes in? What is she wearing?

PC: I don't know. All I can picture her in is what she has on today and has had on recently.
I've no idea what she has on.

LRH: All right. Let's take a look at her. Does she come in the front door?

PC: Yes.

LRH: And where does she walk to as she comes in the front door?

PC: I can't see it. The apartment has been changed since that time, the arrangement of
rooms, and I keep seeing it as it is now, not as it was then. I don't know whether she
rang the doorbell and I went to the door to let her in or not. My father is there in the
apartment.

LRH: What is he saying?

PC: He's not there at the moment she's telling me, he's in his room, whatever room it is
he's using.

LRH: Hm-hm. Now you're not sure then what he's saying?

PC: No. It begins to come a little bit now. I think that I went into his room and he had been
getting dressed. He was sitting on the edge of his bed, he had his coat off, but he was
dressed except for that and I believe he was doing his nails. I'm not sure, but I have
that picture.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I don't know if Jean went in with me when I told him or not. I can't see, but I
remember saying it to him. He looked up and said, Hello, son, which he calls me once
in a while. And I said, Mother died a little while ago. And he said, Oh? and I can't hear
anything else. Then I said, Yes, Jean just got back. She had died just a few minutes
before she got there early this morning.

LRH: What did he do?

PC: He sort of stops looking at me and turns his head and looks at the floor for a bit. I can't
hear what he says, I think he's quiet for a little time.

LRH: Okay. Now let's go back to the moment when Jean first walks in.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Now what's she saying?

PC: She says, She is dead. She died just a little while before I got there.

LRH: What's her voice tone?

PC: Very low. Not a whisper but sotto voce.

LRH: Hm-hm. And what is your reaction to this?



PC: * don't have much feeling. I asked for the details about it, how it had happened and at
what time and I asked her what the doctor said.

LRH: Is it getting clearer this time?

PC: Not really.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the time when you receive this bicycle.

PC: Received what?

LRH: Bicycle.

PC: Bicycle ?

LRH: Yes.

PC: , don't remember the details of getting it, but I can picture my first ride on it. I believe it
was my first on the street in front of our house. The bike was in the street and I stood
on a stone.

LRH: Let's take a look at the bike as you're standing on the stone there. Let's stand on that
stone and take a look at it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How does the stone feel under your feet?

PC: Well, the stone looks to me about five times as big as it must really have been.

LRH: Oh, good. (chuckles)

PC: Because if the stone were as big as I see it, I couldn't haue gotten on the bike from it
without jumping down on the bike. It looks like a very big stone, about two feet high.

LRH: Okay. Now what's occurring there?

PC: Well, the bike is leaning against it, I'm standing on the stone and I have one hand on
the handle bar. My brother Sam is a few years older and knows how to ride a bike.
He's standing in the street on the other side of the bike, steadying it by the other
handlebar and the seat. And I step on one pedal and swing my leg over and sit on the
seat and grab the handlebars.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And then I start pedaling. Sam gives a little push and I make him promise that he won't
let go.

LRH: How does he sound when he's talking to you?

PC: All right, I won't let go. You just go ahead, I'll hold on to the seat.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And I pushed down the pedal and he pushes ahead and I can feel his hand against me at
the back where it's holding the back of the seat.



LRH: Good. You feel pleased there?

PC: Oh yeah, this is wonderful but I'm a little bit scared that I'm not going to be able to ride
or that he's going to let go. .

LRH: Can you feel this being scared?

PC: Yah, but elated at the same time.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And I don't want him to let go because I'll fall, but also I don't want to fall, I want to
learn how to ride.

LRH: Okay. Let's come on up to present time.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All the way. Canceled.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Thank you.

To an auditor all of this material is very obvious-that when a person goes through an
emotional experience, particularly one which is varied, he is off the edge of it a little bit. This
means that we have uncovered a moment there which the psychoanalyst calls an affect. But we
are right on the ground of it. Now as we examine it we see clearly that the diagnosis means that
there is an emotional charge upon the preclear's mother's death, but the charge is such that the
person cannot approach the actual incident. Sooner or later that incident must be discharged.

It is not whether or not the person can remember, it's whether or not he can re-experience it.
He should be able to re-experience it by smelling the hall, by seeing what the people had on and
so on.

Any effort by an auditor to challenge the validity of the patient's recall would make him shaky
the next time he went back to it for fear somebody might challenge the line again, and that
would shake his confidence in the recall. I have seen a person do this-he fixed up a case so
that it ran for scores of hours over what it should have and finally, halfway through therapy the
patient, instead of feeling better, was getting to be a wreck.

Then the Dianeticist has to go back and pick up all of these times when the person's validity has
been questioned. Only after he has picked up those incidents all by themselves will therapy then
go forward. But it may take a long time to pick them up.

It isn't memory. The person is right at the moment of the recording.

There are two forms of memory. One form of memory is like a photographic shop. Down in
the standard banks and the engram bank, that photographic shop turns out exact duplicates of
the recording of memory, which it pulls up to the analytical mind for computation. As they
come up, the analytical mind looks these things over, and that is memory in present time.

Using the same analogy, the other form could be depicted as the person getting right to the
moment when it was recorded on the track. He is in the photographic shop, and not only in the
photographic shop but behind the lens of the camera, reading off the whole thing. He is not
recording it and he is not remembering. He is rerecording.



That is what very often baffles a psychiatrist when he is watching someone in reverie. He says,
"But my people are doing this all the time."

We are not talking about a conceptual recall which would be this little print sent up to the main
office. We are looking over the initial record, and we are looking it over with great
thoroughness.

If there is something on that record which is painful, it is going to come off the record, and that
is all that is going to come off the record. Pleasure is stet data. You can't shake it. You can go
over a pleasurable moment a hundred times, or two hundred times. The person may get bored
with going over it, but it's still there. And if he goes back to it in the next session, he can still
go over it, and still feel good about it. But on a painful incident, that's a different thing. You
can only go over those things-particularly when you treat the whole engram bank-a few
times and they blow up in your face, and are gone.

The Schopenhauer philosophy that all was pain happens to be wrong. The only thing in the
mind which is a real permanent recording is pleasure.

This process is like "I" being the overall manager of a magazine. He has always had a printer's
devil and an errand boy that brings him up the material. And now, in order to straighten out the
whole layout and get the organisation really traveling, he gets up out of his chair and starts
looking at the files and looking over the organisation and sorting the thing out. That is a good
analogy.

A very definite principle that an auditor must follow is never bring a person up short. I have
tested it and have done just that, occasionally- challenged the person's memory, particularly
when he was going over an incident that was very painful to him, and told him, "Well, you
must be imagining it," just as a test, and I have had them precipitated into an awful state of
mind.

The person is already being attacked from within because he is re-experiencing. Here he is right
here, and now suddenly he can re-experience this because he has an auditor there giving him a
hand. Two analytical minds are working on the same subject. Now if all of a sudden the
auditor seems to take an antagonistic role and the auditor's analytical mind is suddenly reversed
against him, this person's analytical mind, already cut down by the fact that he is going over
something painful, receives the full impact of the auditor and the engram and at that moment
succumbs, and he will go through a crying spell that is really of no great value. He becomes
very nervous and quite upset.

If you do this to a psychotic that you are treating who is having breaks every day or so in an
institution, you can put him into a fit that will last him for several days.

A patient, as long as he is helped, along with the fact that he is doing his best, will all of a
sudden start coming up with the real material, and then he can't be shaken about how real it is.
But that takes a while and the mind has to be unburdened.

One of the commonest things that happens in America is Mama to the child, "Oh, it's just your
imagination." Or, Papa to the wife, "Oh, so you have a headache. Well, it's just your
imagination. It's all in your mind, for heaven's sakes. Come out of it."

Actual test evidence demonstrates that psychoses and neuroses can be perpetuated by
challenging the person's recalls, which is fascinating in view of the fact that in 1911 they made
this a cornerstone of their work, and there has been a curve of increasing psychosis and
neurosis in this society since that doctrine's promulgation. There is a parallel curve. [The
following is a further session given to Alan White on 7 June 1950.]

LRH: Close your eyes, Alan. Any time in the future I say the word canceled, it will cancel out
what I have said to you when you are lying here in session. All right. Now let's go



back to the time when your wife is about to go to the hospital and you slam the door.
Remember we covered this before? This is the key-in.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact that moment, slam the door.

PC: Yeah. I've just slammed the left-hand door of the car.

LRH: All right.

PC: And Igo around the back to the other side, and as I get near the left rear fender I get a
terrible pain in my stomach.

LRH: Let's feel that pain.

PC: (pause) No.

LRH: Well, continue.

PC: And I doubled up with pain and felt that I had to throw up but I didn't want to. I
couldn't help it, and finally threw up. And the pain gradually went down a little bit after
I threw up. But still was very strong.

LRH: Okay. Let's go back and close the door of the car now and let's pick up the sonic on
your wife's voice.

PC: She got in the car and I shut the door.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: Nothing. She climbed in just before I shut the door.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Then she said, I think it's silly, it may be silly going so early. I don't know if the pains
are coming close enough.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I said we ought to go anyway. It's a long way to the hospital and we don't want to be
late.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Then I shut the door, and started back towards the rear of the car....

LRH: What do you hear?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Come on, there's something sounding there as you go back toward the rear of the car.

PC: My footsteps in the gravel.

LRH: Okay. And what else?

PC: Nothing.



LRH: What time of night is it?

PC: About 10:30.

LRH: How does the house look?

PC: Light in the house.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: The back of the apartment house was in front of me as I stood there. And it looked very
dark but there were lights in a few windows.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Just two or three windows.

LRH: And?

PC: And it was very quiet.

LRH: What are the sounds there?

PC: Leaves rustling in the trees.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And there's a cool breeze.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: In the 40s.

LRH: Then what occurs?

PC: Then I get a terrible pain.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And I grab the left rear fender of the car, right above the license plate.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: And bend over and hold my stomach and I just sweat. And I feel nauseated as if I'm
going to throw up. And I try to swallow hard, and my mouth fills up with saliva.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And I keep swallowing and trying not to throw up, and I'm thinking, oh, this was a
hell of a time to get sick.

LRH: Aha. Continue.

PC: Well, all of a sudden it comes up. I can't help it and I throw up.

LRH: How's it taste?



PC: (groan) I know it tasted awful but I can't taste anything.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the time you put your wife in the car.

PC: She said, It may be silly and we may be going too early, the pains aren't very close-
-.

LRH: How does she look when she's saying this?

PC: I can't really see any expression, it's dark.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And I said, No, we ought to go anyway, it's a long way to the hospital. It's better to be
early than late.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I shut the door and walked back towards the back of the car and got a terrible pain in
my stomach--.

LRH: Let's feel that pain.

PC: Hm-hm. Yah, a little bit.

LRH: What do you hear, what are the sounds there?

PC: (pause) There's a breeze stirring . . .

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: the trees . . .

LRH: Aha.

PC: (pause) . . . the sound of my swallowing . . .

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: trying to hold things down.

LRH: Any vehicles or anything like that?

PC: Well, I know I said streetcar but I can't hear it.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the moment . you put your wife in the car.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now how does it feel there? What's the tactile on the door?

PC: I can feel the flopping of the coat, it was a black coat, as I held it to me.

LRH: Okay. Now what's occurring?

PC: And I put my left hand on the door of the car which was open. That was when she said,
This may be silly and we're probably going way too early, the pains may not be close



enough together yet. And I said, We `d better go anyway, it `s a long way to the
hospital. It's better to be early than late.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And I shut the door of the car, and started walking towards the rear of the car. I can
hear my steps on the gravel, in the yard back of the apartment. And Igot a terrible pain
and Igrabbed the end of the car and it (pause) hurts. (pause) And I tried to swallow to
keep from vomiting but I couldn't help it at all. It came up very hard.

LRH: Let's feel the force of it come up.

PC: No. I just feel the pain.

LRH: What do you hear as you feel that pain?

PC: (sighs, grunts)

LRH: All right. Let's return to the moment you put your wife in the car.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. What's she saying?

PC: She says, It may be (sigh) silly, we're probably going too early. I don't think the pains
are close enough together.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I said, No, we ought to go anyway. It's a long way to the hospital and we don't want
to be late. It's better to be early.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And I shut the door and went to the back of the car, and there's a terrible pain in my
stomach. And I had to vomit. I didn't want to vomit then and I kept swallowing to try
to keep from vomiting. But then it came up, all of a sudden as I bent over and it hit me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Ifelt a little better but it still hurt badly.

LRH: What are the sounds you hear there?

PC: (exhales; pause) Now Iget a sound of her opening the car door.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: (labored speaking) She opened the car door and got out, and came back to me. I can't
hear what she says really. But at first she said, Can I get you something? And I said,
No, I'll be all right in a few minutes. I don't know what happened, just nervous I
guess. I'll be all right in a minute. You just sit down in the car, just wait a minute. And
she put her hand on my shoulder and said, I can run inside and get something for you
to make you feel better. I said, No. No, that's my fault. I'll feel better in a few minutes.
It just came over me all of a sudden. I'll be all right.

LRH: Okay.



PC: She didn't go back and get in the car, she stood there.

LRH: All right. Now the somatic strip can go straight to the source of this pain. The source,
the first time. Source. Source. Early. Early. Early. Prebirth if possible. Source. Source
of the pain. First time. I (PC groans) First time. What do we get? First time. (pause)
Does your wife say, Stay here and wait a minute there at the car? We'd better stay here?

PC: No, she didn't say, Stay here, she just stayed there instead of getting back in the car

LRH: Did she say, You've got to wait?

PC: I told her to get in the car and sit down, and I'd be all right in a few minutes. But she
didn't. She stood there beside me.

LRH: What does she say while she's standing there beside you?

PC: Are you sure I can t get something for you ? No, no, I'll be all right.

LRH: Did she say, You'd better stay anyplace?

PC: No.

LRH: Did she say, You'd better wait?

PC: No.

LRH: Okay. Let's go 10 minutes before you put her in the car. 10 minutes before you put her
in the car.

PC: (whispers) Yah.

LRH: All right. How do you feel 10 minutes before you put her in the car? Where is she?

PC: In the living room of the apartment.

LRH: All right. What do you see there, while you're in the living room?

PC: (pause) It's not too clear. There'd been some labor pains, not terribly severe, for the
last two or three hours. And we had been watching the time to see how close they were
coming.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: And it wasn't very clear because some of them were fairly strong and definite, and
others weren't.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: But we finally judged that it was probably about-I can't remember how many
minutes, (mutters) I would have guessed 10 minutes, 10 or 11 minutes, something like
that.

LRH: All right, let's go back to birth, Mike. Let's go back to birth. When your mother's
going to the hospital. Birth. Mother's going to the hospital.

PC: Mother didn't go to a hospital, I know that.

LRH: All right. Birth. Mother stays at home.



PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can't pick up a somatic here. (pause) Let's see if we can
contact it.

PC: I guess I'm a little bit nervous.

LRH: Let's repeat it.

PC: I guess I'm a little bit nervous.

LRH: Let's go early on this. I'm just a little bit nervous.

PC: I'm just a little bit nervous.

LRH: All right. Now, The pains are coming close together. Let's contact this on the track.
Pains are coming close together. Pains are coming closer together. Pains, coming closer
together. Let's return to it. (pause) You can repeat it.

PC: Pains are coming closer together. Pains are coming closer together.

LRH: Let's repeat it.

PC: Pains are coming closer together.

LRH: Let's repeat it.

PC: Pains are coming closer together.

LRH: Let's see if we can repeat this, down to the point where it occurs. Let's pick up the
somatic, this stomach somatic, back in the prenatal area if we can. Let's see if we can
pick this up. Just as early as we can get it. You moving on the track?

PC: I've got a pain.

LRH: All right. Let's see what we get with this pain. What do you contact with that pain?
Right there, any noise you can contact with it?

PC: (pause; mutters)

LRH: Hm? (pause) When I count to five a phrase will flash into your mind. One -two-three-
four-five .

PC: There is a green doily in front of me that I can see.

LRH: Any words flash in?

PC: No.

LRH: Green doily?

PC: Green. Just a green doily on top of some glasses, and there are glasses on the doily.
It's funny, I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: Don't know why it should be there. Go on.

PC: Don t know why it should be there on top of the glasses.



LRH: Don't know why it should be there.

PC: I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: Give it to me again.

PC: I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: What would be the next phrase to this?

PC: I don't know why it should be there. It really belongs underneath.

LRH: Okay. Go over that again.

PC: I don't know why it should be there. It really belongs underneath.

LRH: Let's contact it more solidly.

PC: I don't know why it should be there. It belongs underneath.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again, more solidly.

PC: I don't know why it should be there. It really belongs underneath.

LRH: All right. Let's get the phrase just before this I don't know why it should be there.

PC: I don't know why it should be there.

LRH: The phrase just before it.

PC: Whats it doing there?

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: What s it doing there?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what it's doing there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Whats it doing there?

LRH: Continue.

PC: What s it doing there? I don't know why it should be there. It really belongs
underneath.



LRH: Okay. Let's get the first phrase of this. First phrase in this sequence. Somatic strip can
pick up the first phrase in this sequence.

PC: Pass it to me. Pass it to me.

LRH: Earlier phrase?

PC: (muttering) I don't know what's wrong.

LRH: Go on over that.

PC: I don't know what's wrong.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what's wrong.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't know. (pause) I don't know what's wrong, but something's got to be done
about it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't know what's wrong but something's got to be done about it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Somebody s got to do something about it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Somebody's got to do something about it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He'll be here any minute.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He'll be here any minute.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Somebody's got to do something about it. Well, he'll be here any minute.

LRH: What's next?

PC: I wish he'd hurry.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I wish he'd hurry.



LRH: Continue.

PC: He'll be here any minute. I wish he'd hurry, because it hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I wish he'd hurry, because it hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts more all the time

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. (pause) Continue. (pause) Go over that again.

PC: It hurts more all the time

LRH: Continue.

PC: It seems as if I can t breathe.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (exhales, mutters) You'd think he could come-you'd think he could come anyway.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You'd think he could come anyway (grunt)

LRH: Continue.

PC: ah-Why don't you....

LRH: Continue.

PC: Why don't you call him again.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Why don't you call him again. You'd better hurry. (pause) Better hurry. (pause) Or go
and get him. Maybe that would be best.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Maybe that would be best.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutters) No. Don't know. Don't know.

LRH: Is this the earliest one of this sequence?



PC: Don't know.

LRH: Give me a flash answer. Has this happened before? What's the first thing that flashed
through your mind?

PC: No.

LRH: Hasn't?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the first part of it now and run it on through. The first part of it.
The somatic strip can contact it.

PC: I think the pains are getting closer together.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh) I think the pains are getting closer together.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Maybe you'd better send for him now.

LRH: Continue.

PC: That can't be McCarthy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) It's not so bad. (pause) It's a lot better than it would have been....

LRH: Continue.

PC: It will be a while after all. (pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: You know. I think I don't feel any pain at all.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: I don't know. I don't know how often the....

LRH: Contact it. Continue.



PC: I don't know.... (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Yah, this is starting up again. Yeah, I think it's starting up again.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I keep getting these false alarms.

LRH: Continue.

PC: That s why it s so hard to tell.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Sometimes you think you're getting a pain and then it doesn't amount to anything.
(exhales) They say time them, but-(sigh) but they don't seem to be regular at all.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Until the end.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And then they get regular right at the end.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Are you sure he's home? (pause) Yes, I am sure he will be coming.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It feels fairly comfortable now.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And it will be quite a while.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's getting pretty late.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Later than ever I think.

LRH: Continue.



PC: I feel very sleepy all of a sudden.

LRH: Continue along.

PC: I always do in between pains.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I guess that's because Iget tired.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's just fine now. I don't know, you never can tell about these things.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (murmur; pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: No. No. It's all right.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; deep breath; pause)

LRH: Okay. Let's return to the beginning of this. Let's return to the beginning of this, the
very beginning of this. (pause) Contact the very beginning of this.

PC: (pause) I don't know, I don't know. (pause) There have been a few.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can pick up Father's voice there. Let's see if we can pick up
Papa's voice. Come on. Get the question that's asked right before that answer. What
does Papa say, if that is Papa?

PC: How do you feel? (pause) It feels better. Have you had any real pains yet?

LRH: Continue.

PC: There s a few but not many. I don't know how close together they are, but they're not
very close.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Is there anything I can get you?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Is there anything I can get you? No, I don't think so.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Anything?

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's foolish. That's the trouble, we can never be sure.



LRH: Continue.

PC: (grunt)

LRH: You're doing fine. Continue.

PC: It won't hurt much anyway. Are you ready? (pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'll be downstairs.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's so damned uncomfortable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; mutter; pause; mutter)

LRH: Continue making good contact. Keep going.

PC: (breathes heavily, mutters) My lip keeps getting dry, I wish I had a few more.... (voice
trails away)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go back to the beginning and contact what we were receiving there at
the beginning. Let's be right there at the beginning of this. And let's see if we can
contact the somatic this time as we run it through. Let's see if we contact your own
somatic this time as we run it through. (pause) Right from the beginning. You can
contact it. You're doing swell. See if we can't contact it right at the beginning there.
Pains are closer together.

PC: Can't see. (pause; mutters) That's not the beginning.

LRH: All right. What is the beginning?

PC: (mutters) The pains are closer together.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: Maybe you had better call him again.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You'd think he'd come. (pause) Maybe you'd better go over and get him very soon.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; mutter, labored speech)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutters several phrases)



LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh. (pause) I think I'm beginning to get used to it. I still don't like it. (mutters phrase)

LRH: Continue. Continue.

PC: It's right there. (sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whimpers)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whimpered words, heavy breathing) No.

LRH: All right. Let's go right straight through to the moment you come out. The moment
you're lying on the table. Come straight through to the moment you're lying on the
table.

PC: (whimpers)

LRH: Straight through to the moment you're lying on the table. You can remember this.
Straight through to the moment you're lying on the table. (pause) Contact the moment
you're lying on the table.

PC: (grunt, small cry)

LRH: You can remember this.

PC: (grunt)

LRH: Now contact the moment when you're about 5 days old, 5 days old.

PC: (breathes heavily)

LRH: Contact the moment when you're about 5 days old.

PC: (breathes heavily)

LRH: How do you feel when you're lying there about 5 days old?.

PC: Hot.

LRH: Okay. How hot?

PC: (croaks a word)

LRH: Okay. Let's come up to the time when you're 1 month old.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: 1 month old.

PC: (grunt)

LRH: 1 month old. How do you feel when you're 1 month old?



PC: (exhales; pause; mutter)

LRH: Pretty good?

PC: Sleepy.

LRH: Hm? Sleepy. All right. Let's come up to the time when you're 6 years old and getting
on the bicycle.

PC: Um.

LRH: How big's the rock?

PC: (mutter)

LRH: All right. Let's feel the emotion on this, as we're getting on the bike.

PC: Yeah, I feel it.

LRH: Pretty good?

PC: No, I can't feel it.

LRH: All right. Let's just step aboard this bike.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Step aboard the bike? Now let's start it off down the street.

PC: Hm-hm. (exhales)

LRH: How does it feel riding down the street?

PC: (grunt) I can't feel it.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Can't feel anything.

LRH: All right. Can't feel anything. All right. Let's go over the line, Can't feel anything.
Only let's pick it up early prenatal. Early, early, early prenatal. Can't feel anything,
can't feel anything. Early.

PC: Can't feel anything.

LRH: Early. Much earlier.

PC: Can't feel anything.

LRH: Early. (pause) Let's pick it up a long time before birth there.

PC: Can't feel anything.

LRH: Can't feel anything. Early.

PC: I can't feel anything.



LRH: Early. Now what are you contacting there very early on this? What do you contact?
(gap in recording)

LRH: Let's contact something.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now let's go up to the time you're 6 years old riding the bike.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: How do you feel there as you're riding the bike?

PC: I feel pretty tall.

LRH: All right. PC On the back of the seat.

LRH: Sounds fine. Let's go up to the time when you just beat the daylights out of some kid.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the moment you're just beating the daylights out of someone.

PC: Oh gee, he took my basketball away from me, by golly, I came right after him.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I jumped him and Ifell on the ground with him, I just pounded his face and banged his
head against the ground.

LRH: How does he sound while you're pounding his head?

PC: He was yelling, Stop it, stop it, I didn't mean it.

LRH: Okay. What are you doing to him there?

PC: Pounding him. I'm crying loudly at this point. Pounding him in the face....

LRH: All right. Let's come up to the moment when you're really pounding the daylights out
of him. Now let's come up to the moment where you feel like you really won on him.
Did you really win in this fight?

PC: Oh, I sure did.

LRH: Now, how do you feel standing there after you had really won?

PC: Wonderful.

LRH: How does the kid look?

PC: He looks bloody.

LRH: Good. Okay. Take a good look at him. What does the boy say to you?

PC: He runs away when I let him up. He didn't say a thing.

LRH: Oh, anybody else say anything to you?



PC: Nobody else is around.

LRH: Aha, you feel pretty cocky?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Well, good.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Come up to present time.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All the way. (pause) Give me a flash answer, how old are you?

PC: 43.

LRH: Okay. All the way up. Canceled.

PC: (pause; exhales) Hello.

LRH: You been through anything?

PC: I've been through a lot. (laughs) Just what it is I don't know.

Evidently the reactivation there has so many holders in it that it makes it difficult to key it out
after there's a key-in.

What we did in the above was.to run over what is probably the original incident on it. There
may be earlier incidents in the bank, but we have got to clip this early and late. Now tell me
this, just as a matter of record, when did your grandparents pass away?

My grandparents? Oh, my mother's mother lived with us for two years when I was a very little
kid and then she moved out to my aunt in California and lived there. She died when I was in
my teens.

Did you like her?

No, never really knew her. I didn't see her except when I was a little kid about 2 or 3 years
old.

You saw her when you were a little kid?

Yeah.

Didn't know her?

No. She was the one who came in and said, "Nasty icky poo," when I'messed my pants,
which was told me later. As a baby she was at our house at that time.

You miss her?

No. My mother's father I never knew, he died long before I was born. My father's mother and
father I can remember when we were little kids living in Topeka. I was about 9. They lived on
a farm outside of town and once in a while on Sunday we had to go visit my grandparents and
the kids all hated that. They were a couple of very old folks in their late eighties, and their
house stank very badly. And it was dark and dingy. She died, then he came and lived with my



uncle and his half-brother, and I used to go once in a while and see him then. And he was a
nice old gentleman then, I remember. But he died I think at 92 when I was about 7 or 8 years
old.

That's the great-grandfather.

No, grandfather.

How many great-grandparents?

Never knew them. In fact his father was considered the black sheep of the family, for dying so
young, at 92.

Well, there is one of two things I can do here. We can either locate Grandma's moving away,
or we could just let this gestate for the moment until you have another run. I can promise you
that because of that birth, the early part of your therapy is not going to be too comfortable.
Because we've got to take those phrases and run them out earlier in the bank so that we can get
this birth period there released. I'm just talking now by experience on the matter. Because it
wasn't releasing, it was tightening up, it was getting rougher. But you were coming out of
your mama's somatic and going into your own. That's just my observation. I'm not even
trying to force the evaluation on you that that was birth.

Okay. Dad was very quiet there; all his life has been, particularly in situations where there's a
little difficulty. He believes the best thing to do is just keep his mouth shut and he won't get in
trouble. He's been following it all his life. He's a very quiet guy and always has been. But my
father and mother have been in a fight because my father wouldn't. It used to infuriate my
mother once in a while. She would try to get a fight going and when he saw she was annoyed
he would say one or two nice placating little things and if they didn't work he'd say, "Well, I
think I'll go out now, excuse me."And she would just fume. How can you have a fight with
somebody who won't answer back? And he wouldn't. I remember when they were separated
later and she would write him a letter, mad at him, and there was a fight going on by mail, he
would put the letter unopened in a safe deposit box. And they're still there, unopened. He kept
them in case something important might come up later and he could refer to them, but he
wouldn't read them. They're still there and some of the letters are 30 years old! And when he
did read a letter where she had been very nasty, he would write back about the weather and cute
little things like that.

Well, then, we can expect any fulminations on the case to be your mama's.

Yeah, there were plenty of those.

Sure.

She was pretty vocal.

Let's see if we can't take a little charge off this. Just so that you feel better, a little more
comfortable.

Hold it, Ron, here's the thing that throws me though, now I have got a pain in the stomach.
What I'm wondering is, am I having my mother's labor pains?

That's what's known as valence.

A feature of my stomach ailment is that finally along about 2, 3 or 4 o'clock, after I have a bad
night, I'm okay and then I always sleep very well late in the morning.

What was the hour of the day you were born?



I don't know. I seem to think of noon. That's what comes back to me.

How many hours labor?

I don't know.

It would be out of the birth engram. Those people get very vocal. "Oh, now-now, dear. Now
just keep bearing down. Well, we'll call him back now. Call him back. You just lie still and
rest there. You'll be comfortable now. Just be comfortable, dear. Do you suppose he can
come? Better call him. Yeah, they're right here now." This is the kind of talk one gets. "He
should come now," and "He'd better hurry and get here," or something like that, which affects
the person going along in present time who then gets called down to birth, which is a little bit
confusing at times. Once he is in the birth engram he gets the somatic. Those are the
mechanics. The only reason I'm talking about this is not to evaluate anybody's case, but just as
a demonstration.

Whenever I go through one of these attacks I say that if I could have a baby as a result of it to
show for it, it would be all right.

Let's not dramatise the thing all the way now, all right? Now let's see if we can find Grandma.
We don't have to find her but let's see if we can. Okay?

Yeah.

LRH: Close your eyes. Now let's see if we can't contact the moment there when Grandma is
standing by the crib. See if we can contact it. See if we can contact it.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Standing by the crib.

PC: My shoulder's tensing. Ipicture my crib on the sleeping porch right near the door
reached from the back hall.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And farther out there's a great big sleeping porch with two or three double beds. My
crib was in a narrow entrance section of the porch, because it's right near the door into
the house.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And I don't know what the crib's made of. I've always pictured wooden cribs but now
I see a brass one.

LRH: Okay.

PC: It's a shiny brass crib.

LRH: Is it very small?

PC: No, it's a good-sized.

LRH: Okay. Are you outside it or in it?

PC: I'm in it.

LRH: Okay. How big does it look around you?



PC: Quite long and high.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And the door to the back hall is over to the left here. It's a wooden door with a glass
panel in the upper part of it, with white curtains on it.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And there's a metal floor on the porch.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And a tin roof too. Sounds wonderful when it rains.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I can see the whole thing. (pause)

LRH: Okay. Let's pick up the moment when Grandma comes in, if you can contact her there,
if she is there.

PC: Um. Well....

LRH: See if you can contact the moment when Grandma shows up.

PC: I see her as she looked a few years later.

LRH: Let's contact her. See if we can contact her while you're in this crib, if she's
contactable, if she ever comes near this crib. The somatic strip can pick up a moment
when she does, if it exists.

PC: Well, I see a stiff black dress. I don't ever see her in anything else but this black dress.

LRH: Hm-hm. How did she look while she was in this black dress?

PC: Well, I don't know. It's very hard to look at the dress right now with the pain in my
stomach.

LRH: Oh. Now what's she saying? Contact the phrase there. Let's just contact the phrase.

PC: (exhales) I don `t know. (pause) What `s the matter with you? (pause; heavy breathing)
What's the matter with you? Why don't you call? (pause)

LRH: Contact it, Alan.

PC: (mumble)

LRH: What's she saying now?

PC: Never do it there.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Never do it there.

LRH: Okay. Now what else has she got to say here?



PC: (mutter)

LRH: Go over the line Never do it there.

PC: Never do it there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. Never do it there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sort of a groan) Never do it there. (sigh; pause)

LRH: What's her next line?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Never do it there.

PC: Never do it there. Never do it there.

LRH: How does she look when she says this? Let's roll it.

PC: Shakes her head.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that again.

PC: Shaking her head.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: What haueyou done now?

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: No. (sigh) Why don't you call? One shouldn't ever do it there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moan) It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moan, sigh) Well, can't you?

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Maybe thatch teach you.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. (moans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moans)



LRH: Continue.

PC: (moan, mutters) . . . it hurts. Maybe thatch teach you. (moans, sigh)

LRH: Whatb she do to you?

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Let's go over when she's doing something to make it well.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: Did she do anything to make it well?

PC: Now I've got to clean this all up.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Now I've got to clean this up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Now I've got to clean this up.

LRH: Continue. What's she do for you? Let's go to the moment when she does something for
you.

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Nothing for you?

PC: No.

LRH: Now let's come up to the time when your stomach is well.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: Now what's happening when your stomach's all well?

PC: (pause; mutter)

LRH: Hm?

PC: (breathing, mutter)

LRH: Contact it. Do you have any pain?

PC: (mutters words draggingly)

LRH: Now let's get up to the moment when she goes away and says good-bye to you.

PC: (grunt)

LRH: Contact the moment when she says good-bye.

PC: (mutter)



LRH: Can you contact it?

PC: I don't want her to kiss me in this way. I can't picture Grandma. Let's see. She's trying
to kiss me. But I didn't want her to kiss me.

LRH: Okay. (pause) All right. Let's come up to a time when you're beating up this kid on the
basketball field.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. How do you feel there, how do your knuckles feel? Let's pick up the
somatics in your knuckles. There must be some in your hand as you're watching him
run away.

PC: Yeah, they hurt but it doesn't bother me.

LRH: All right. Let's feel these somatic Now what's the triumph you feel there?

PC: Oh, it's the first time I ever got in a fight. I never got in a fight ever before.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I've bloodied his nose, he has blood all over his face.

LRH: Any blood on your hands?

PC: Yeah, a bit, when Igot my followthrough.

LRH: Okay.

PC: And on my clothes.

LRH: Come up to present time.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How old are you?

PC: 43.

LRH: Canceled. Five-four-three-two-one (snap!). (PC exhales) So she wasn't an ally was
she? (chuckles)

PC: She was an old bitch. (laughs) I didn't realize that before. I was amazed.

LRH: How are you feeling, Alan?

PC: Very good.

LRH: Okay.

At the very beginning of a case one tries to pick up the perceptics and locate the key incidents.
Then one tries to find some painful emotion. In this case we have been very unsuccessful on
the subject of painful emotion. There must be some somewhere. Ordinarily the grandparents
can be looked to, particularly if the child's mother or father has abused him.



So you get a diagnosis on the case on the following basis: The grandparents are not allies.
Something is wrong here. The child loves his father and mother. And for some peculiar reason
what they did to him was not particularly antagonistic.

If we had a number of AAs back down the line, or if mother and father have done a lot of
punishment or have been very antagonistic, then the grandparents, even when they are pretty
irritable, are the allies. If one can contact them leaving, or something like that, one gets a
tremendous emotional discharge.

Today we have succeeded in establishing a closer contact with incidents, known technically as
greasing the track.

In Alan's case it will not be one of these knockdown-drag-out affairs, because we have got a
very clean setup here.

An ally is terrible to have anywhere in the case. The ally is not created by somebody loving the
child. Previous to Dianetics people have alleged that a feeling of sympathy with the child
seemed to be somehow aberrative. This was a bad observation. If they had gone back and
looked they would have found the child terrified of other people in the vicinity, maybe father or
mother or both. Then, while the child was sick and in the perfect situation to receive an
engram, this ally sympathised with him.

That actually takes the form of the ally, and the loss of such a person causes an upset.

This particular case isn't a good case of ulcers. It's never shown up in an x-ray plate, has it?

Yeah, once.

Once it did show up in an x-ray.

My mother had terrible ulcers. That's what caused her death.

All right. I don't make any prognostications on the case. But there aren't the enormous
complications here that you find in even the average case. However, an aberration which has
existed for a long time in the society is that one is supposed to be very neurotic, and that the
person who is really going ahead is the person who is driven by these neuroses. This meant he
would have had to have a bad background, and therefore that engrams were necessary to the
formulation of a good brain. If one looks over your career, one would have a hard time trying
to challenge the fact that you have been constructive and very brilliant.

My neurosis has got in the way of all that, repeatedly.

Of course.

It's doing it right now.

Hm-hm. That's right.

It's wasting two days out of every week for me.

When I discover a case where some gentleman who is enormously productive has had a very
bad time of it, then immediately these facts can be seized upon, and someone says, "This man
had an awfully rough time of it which drove him into being productive." That is not true. This
is known as a valence question.

My analyst suggested, without using the word valence, that I was reputedly my mother.



Sure. According to Dianetics that is exactly what one looks for. If one is in a person's valence,
and that person dies, it would be the same as part of oneself dying. But now we have to throw
a valence over the fact that the person is dead and that is sort of what happens to the mind on
the subject, but it lowers the amount of analytical power available. This is where the analogy
comes from that painful emotion seems to pick up life units and activate the engram bank,
because it is just as though at that moment the engram can come to life and part of the analytical
mind appears to ease off the track. The object in getting off painful emotion is to get the
analytical mind back into circulation again, and we get a situation whereby the analytical mind
is now much more highly alert and the physical pain engrams are not so strong because that is
where they get their power from.

Yes, but all you're getting out of me is physical pain, not emotional pain.

Okay. That's all right. This way we can'take some basic power off the early bank. We can'take
off some engrams. Painful emotion will come later in this case. There are evidently some
physical pain engrams to be picked up here.

I could name half a dozen.

Yes, they can be picked up and then the next time we go back to that death of your mother's, it
may spill right then. A funny thing about this that really mystifies me, but is what is very
convincing to me too, is the theory behind the two types of mind. They are both operating to a
certain extent. As I was going through this thing, I wasn't being consciously aware of thinking
of any of these things that came out, until after they came out. But then I suddenly remembered
when I said during one of the incidents, "Is there anything I can do for you? " That was the
way she said it when I was stand ing at the rear of the car, "Is there anything I can do for you?"

And you will probably find out that Papa's commands will have more force. Because you were
going through Mama's action there but not getting any of Papa's. Papa was the missing link
there. Papa says something in there. A person has a tendency to cover up the closer ally. In this
case we have got the parents properly as they should be, both of them allies. However, a
person won't give the dialogue of the closest ally but will handily give up the dialogue of the
person who is not quite so close. We will have to have another session on that. We are not
getting a very fast entrance on this case, because we are not into the basic area yet. Painful
emotion has got to be discharged in the area of your mother's death, and then we have got to
get whatever the pain is in the basic area.

Session, 9 June 1950

I knew when you left here after the last session that you were probably going to be in for a very
rough time. And I fully expected to see you back yesterday.

Last night it was very bad.

After an incident is hit, it sometimes takes a little while to develop, something like a
photographic plate.

Wow!

And there is not a great deal you can do, Alan, when you ask the file clerk for something and
he winds you up in an incident which you know is not going to do more than desensitise.

Yes.

Now that was what happened and I couldn't have done a lot about it. I didn't want to scare you
by telling you you would be back. So I just expected you back.



Well, I wondered about this pain and I suddenly thought-this is the original pain, and all these
other pains I've been having are physiological although kicked off by this one. There was no
complete intestinal spasm that day at all so that had reduced.

That's right.

Well, by now I've had several things happen to me which hit me there.

However, we could not have touched those things obviously without relieving that birth.

Yes.

It's one of those tough entrances.

I actually got the emotional reason and the pain subsided a good deal. But by that time my wife
was in pain too.

She is stuck in the middle of birth.

She is?

Yes. All I was trying to do in her last session was desensitise the case and test her recalls. We
ran an incident where her mother was busy spanking her and she suddenly started crying and
was in birth. Every punishment Mama administered was evidently sitting squarely on the front
of birth. So I figured this probably would come back yesterday and at the outside today.

She felt wonderful yesterday.

She's in the manic right now, at the end of that sequence.

Oh, she felt all right last night. She had slept all afternoon, she told me, but she woke up this
morning with a stomach ache. And you know what she said to me when I asked her how she
was?

What?

(This is one of the tip-offs to me, I'm learning a little bit about this.) She said, "It's all right if I
don't move."

That's the whole sequence there in birth.

"Can't move."

Yes.

So I decided to do what you suggested and said to her, "Let me run you through a few pleasant
things recently."

Here are two people living together. They've both for some cock-eyed reason been suffering a
restimulation of just one special engram. Now for you to have started out to have run her might
very well have doubled you up quite badly right there, and vice versa.

Hm-hm.

So I figured out as soon as you came over that I would desensitise birth along your line. And
then we could knock her back to birth and do the same for her.



LRH: Okay. Lie down and relax for a minute. You had a very rugged case entrance here.
They're seldom this rugged. Now, let's come up to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Close your eyes. Anything I say to you while you are lying there with your eyes closed
in session will be canceled and be rendered null and void the moment that I say the
word canceled. Okay?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the beginning of birth. The first contraction of birth. Your
somatic strip can go to the first contraction of birth.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: First contraction of birth.

PC: I don't get it.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I don't get it.

LRH: You'don't get it?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. You can in a moment. Go over I'm stuck, or He's stuck. What is the phrase?

PC: He s stuck

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: He s stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Hes stuck (exhales)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Hes stuck

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Hes stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over that again.



PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: All right. Let's contact this more solidly. Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Let's contact the somatic on this. Go over it again.

PC: Umm. He's stuck. I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (exhales) He's stuck. I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: He s stuck I'm going to have to turn him around.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of the sequence. Beginning of the sequence. First
moment, first moment. First contraction. The somatic strip can pick up the first
contraction.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: First moment of birth. P(5: Um.

LRH: First moment of birth.

PC: Um.

LRH: When I count from one to five a phrase will flash into your mind. One-twothree-four-
five (snap!).

PC: Birth. (small pause) Birth



LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Birth. Birth

LRH: Now the whole phrase, beginning with birth, will flash into your mind. One-two-three-
four-five(snap!).

PC: It's always hard.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's always hard.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's always hard.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's always hard.

LRH: Next line.

PC: It's always hard, no matter what they do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's always hard, no matter what they do. It's always hard, no matter how many times
you go through it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's always hard.... Oh, you idiot. (begins to sound under stress)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan) It hurts. There's a pain. There's a pain. (groaning with contractions) It hurts, it
hurts-the pain.... Oh, there's another one.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan) Pretty close together.

LRH: Continue.

PC: They re pretty close together.

LRH: Continue. PC They re pretty close together. (speaking very painfully) Can't you give
me something?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Can't you give me something?



LRH: Continue.

PC: (prolonged grunts and groans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans and mutters painfully) ... Ouch! It hurts. It hurts. It.... Push . . . push . . .
push. It hurts right there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: As if they're poking right there. Big dolt. They're pushing me against my will. Pushing
it out.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (gasping) Oh, hell.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (more moaning, gasps)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans, panting) He's stuck. He's stuck. Oh, thepain. Thepain.(more gasps)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Can't you give me something? (gasping) He's stuck, he's stuck.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (series of horrible gasps and groans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moaning)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moans, groans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Just dying, just dying. It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans) It hurts. Oh, my goodness. (groans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groaning) Give it to me. I see purple.



LRH: Continue.

PC: I see purple, purple, purple, purple.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (heavy breathing)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Purple s gone. I'm not sure. What are you doing? What are you doing? (breathing
heavily)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (muttering disjointedly)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I'm stuck.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over it again. PC I'm stuck (whispering and gasping)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. What's the line again?

PC: I'm stuck

LRH: What's being said?

PC: (whispered words)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Go back to the beginning of birth now. Earliest part of birth. Earliest part of it. The
somatic strip can pick up the earliest part of birth. First contractions. First part of birth.
Let's pick it up. Contact it. Now, let's roll it, Alan.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: What's the first material that comes through?

PC: (breathing, muttering slowly) . . . haven't had any real ones yet. Just false alarms,
that's all.

LRH: Attaboy. Go over that again.

PC: Haven t had any real ones yet. Just false alarms, that's all.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Haven t had any real ones yet, just false alarms.



LRH: Continue.

PC: I hope it won't be too long. I'd like to get it over with. (mutters several phrases)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan, long mumble)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sighs) Oh, Doctor.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutters several phrases)

LRH: Continue. [gap in recording]

LRH: Let's go to the beginning of it now, first contraction. First contraction. (pause) False
alarm.

PC: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know yet.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (monologuing, exhales sharply)

LRH: Let's return now to the first moment of the birth contractions again. (PC exhales) First
moment. First moment. Let's return to the first moment of birth. The somatic strip will
go to the first moment of birth. First moment of birth. First moment of the birth
contractions. (PC exhales) First moment of the birth contractions. First moment of the
birth contractions. False alarm. It's not anything real yet. It isn't anything real yet.
Repeat that. It isn't anything real yet.

PC: It isn t anything real yet. It isn't anything real yet....

LRH: Continue.

[gap in recording]

The case couldn't have been touched unless we'd run birth out of it. Everything below and
above seems to be latched on to just this one incident. There are call-backs. All right. Now the
last time you went through that was it easier than the other times or wasn't it?

The next to the last time was the easiest.

And then the last time was rougher again. Well, if you had been tracking on it you would have
found out you were picking up skipped incidents.

On that last one?

Yeah. That's right.

You were filling it in. Now we're getting the full birth.



Once or twice there when you said, "Go back and start again," I thought, "Ah, the hell with it.
(laughing) Not again!" (more laughing) You might be getting bored with it. I am. You aren't
bored enough with it.

Do you feel tired now?

Yeah, I didn't have much sleep last night of course, that's one factor.

Yes, baby's always tired after birth. When we put somebody through the birth engram they're
always tired.

It's quite an ordeal.

On this reality proposition, did you catch the words at the beginning of that having to do with
reality?

It was something about "real ones." "There aren't any real ones, they're false alarms. Now
there's a real one."

A very lovely little computation is started with that phrase. It's a very common one.

"False alarms"?

Yes, "Maybe it's a false alarm." Have a cigarette for a moment, then we'll go over it some
more. I'm knocking that thing flat today.

I'm not sure how much I've moved here. I'm not my mother at all; I'm all me.

Hm?

Am I?

Oh, you're swinging off Mama.

Hm?

You're slipping off Mama quite a bit there.

Of course, a lot of the talk is Mama but that's natural, isn't it?

Oh, yeah. This thing is running off routinely.

As long as the feelings aren't Mama. As a matter of fact yours is a rare case where birth can be
flattened.

Ha.

After all, your file clerk handed it up. I didn't ask for it.

You'didn't?

No, I did not ask for it. I said, "The file clerk will now give us what is the trouble with your
case," and there we were at the beginning of birth. My chances of flattening it right then were
very slight.

But do you think that the whole thing concerns this, no matter what other incidents are there?

Oh no, the whole thing is not this.



I mean that they're all hooked into this?

Yes. This has got to be gotten out of the road and then we can get at the rest of it.

Yes. That's what I'meant. But these others are subsidiary to this one.

Oh, absolutely.

You know, it still doesn't seem real.

Okay. Now let's not evaluate for you. Reality in the matter is a secondary consideration. What
we want to do is get birth out of the road.

Yeah. I'll agree with that. I don't care what it is, real or not, if you can get rid of that pain. Will
birth get rid of that pain?

I don't know.

Yes, because you don't know what else there is. There may be something else below it.

Yes.

But this is a big one probably.

Every once in a while we find an engram in the bank which has enough power in it to start
pulling other engrams into it.

Hm-hm.

We have got to flatten the central one. Your case has this fortunate aspect, that the central one is
not occluded. In lots of cases the central incident is completely out of sight. You can't contact
it. The person isn't in any agonies over it because he will only get one somatic. For instance,
he will curl up and argue. Or he will go into an epileptiform seizure every time he repeats any
word in his reactive bank. It's all hanging up on one incident.

Yeah.

All right. So it's necessary to just keep plugging away at the case. And eventually that incident
is going to show up. And when it shows up you have got to run it, regardless of whether it will
lift completely or not. Then it will free the rest of it.

You can strip the incident if it won't run. The sequence is to take the incident and run it, then
take the first phrase that you can find in it and run that as early as you can get it. Release that,
then take the next phrase in it and run it as early as you can, and then run it right back on up
again and release that. And just take it phrase by phrase, in sections. But your central incident,
I don't think, will have to be run that way.

I feel that something happened there that I'missed.

Why? Do you think there's something more in birth that you haven't contacted yet?

Well, yes. It's probably just because of the existence of this pain. Nothing that happened to me
that I've gone through accounts for that much pain.

Hm-hm.



Maybe Mama poked at me? Sure, that hurt. And there was the doctor, the clumsy idiot, when
he jerked me up. He really kicked me. (laughs)

Okay.

I don't know. It is just the degree of pain talking.

Well, we will find it.

But here's one thing I find myself having a tendency to do and that is to go into the boredom of
tearing it apart and saying, "Oh, skip that, we know about that. " Is that common?

No, but it is a very good sign.

Yeah?

It's becoming less aberrative. As long as it is aberrative a person is intensely interested in it.

Oh.

But you have got to run them all the same.

Yeah, but we have got to go through an awful lot. You've got it all on the record, why don't
you just go ahead and play the record ! (both laugh)

LRH: That's all right. Let's retum to false alarm, and see if there's anything earlier than the
phrase false alarm.

PC: Um, there is, of course. Gosh, what I had turn off and on in the last few hours is
coming in now, including the vomiting I did last night.

LRH: Uh-huh. Go over it again.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Now, let's get earlier than false alarm this time. Let's get to Mama's vomiting there.
Does she vomit just before the contractions are really getting going?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: All right. Let's see whether vomiting is there.

PC: Oh, throwingup.

LRH: Throwing up, throwing up.

PC: (blurred exclamations) Oh! It hurts like the very devil.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (full delivery dramatisation-grunts, groans, moans, exclamations, heavy breathing-
PC's voice is remarkably womanlike in the next minutes)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.



PC: (mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't stand it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't stand the pain.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh! I can't stand the pain. Oh!

LRH: Contact the conversation there. Keep rolling.

PC: (suffers through it for about a minute then there are some rapid gasps and PC assumes
man's voice)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (suddenly assumes woman's voice againj I can't stand it.

LRH: Continue. What about pain?

PC: (man's voice) Pain, pain.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the words pain, I can't stand it the first time in the bank.

PC: I can't stand the pain.

LRH: Pain, the first time in the bank. Early.

PC: I can't stand it.

LRH: Early, early, early.

PC: I can't stand this pain, I can't stand this pain. I can't stand this pain. . I

LRH: Pain.

PC: (resumes mother's delivery dramatisation, interspersed with the word pain)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (muttering)

LRH: Okay. Let's roll that again.

PC: (mutters, sigh)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Oh, pain (sigh coughs)

LRH: Alan, let's go to the earliest moment in the bank when this one appears. Earliest
moment in the bank. The first instant in the bank. The first moment after conception



that this one appears. The first one. Early, early, early, early, early. All the way down,
all the way back down the line. Earliest moment. Earliest moment. Earliest moment.
Earliest moment.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (muffled) It hurts.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (muffled) It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (It hurts

LRH: It hurts what?

PC: It hurts. It hurts right there.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: No, right there. Don't do that. It's so tender, it hurts. It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (weeping out words) It hurts. Stop it, stop it. Oh dear.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (continues for almost a minute) Oh! (inarticulate sounds)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sob, groan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sob)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pounding sound) Oh, the pain!

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans) Stop it. Let me go.



LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh! (back to a man s voice, still agonised) No, no. How could anybody like it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Damn it. (more groans) What a terrible feeling.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh.

LRH: Continue.

PC: But it hurts, it hurts. (pounding sound)

LRH: All right. Let's go back to an earlier one. Is this the same one you went over before?
PO: (grunts) When?

LRH: Give me a flash answer now, is there an earlier incident of this character in the bank?

PC: I don't think so.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it from the beginning.

PC: It hurts too much. It hurts too much. It hurts.

LRH: I can't go through this again.

PC: (groaning) It hurts.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the first moment of it, Alan. You can remember this. You can
contact the first moment of it.

PC: (groan)

LRH: All right. Let's contact the first moment of it. Now what do we get there? The first
statement made. The first phrase that is going to flash into your mind now. One-two-
three-four-five.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It hurts, it hurts, it hurts. Don't you understand-it hurts!

LRH: Continue.

PC: (wailing)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (heavy breathing) It hurts. I can't stand it. It hurts. (sobs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pounds something) It hurts.



LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts, bad.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Stop that, it hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. It hurts really bad. It burns.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (wails)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (prolonged moaning)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (panting)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'll never get over that hurt.

LRH: Continue. Next line.

PC: (continues same noise) I'll never get over that hurt. I'll always remember it.

LRH: Well, okay. Let's contact the beginning of it, Alan. The beginning, earliest moment of
it, earliest moment of it, earliest instant.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Earliest instant.

PC: It hurts, it hurts. It hurts. Can't you understand, it hurts. (sobbing out the words)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. Please, it hurts too much. Please stop this, stop this, it hurts too much....
(groaning out words for over a minute) What's it doing? (voice changes to that of a man
mid-groan) No, no, oh.

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the beginning of it. Let's pick up the first instant of it this time.
Let's pick up the first instant of it this time. And contact there. Roll it through now but
get Papa, Papa, all the way through on this one too. Get them both. Let's roll it.

PC: (cough)

LRH: Nausea, vomiting. Is there nausea on the front end of this?

PC: No.

LRH: Throwing up on the front end of this?



PC: No.

LRH: All right. Just roll it on through there with Papa.

PC: It hurts. It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts when you do that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts when you do that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, it hurts. I'm being very careful. Don't you understand?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Why? It shouldn't hurt. I'm being very careful.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts too much.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Just stop it, just stop it. No, I can't. Just stop it, that's all, it hurts too much. I can't
help it, it just hurts too much.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Come on.

PC: Um, Come on....

LRH: Go over it....

PC: come on, come on. Nope.

LRH: Hm?

PC: come on. Nope.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of this thing now and roll it.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: There may be something before It hurts. That first It hurts.

PC: It hurts. (groan) Please be careful, please be careful, it hurts.

LRH: Continue.



PC: Does it feel any better? No, it still hurts. How many times do I have to tell you it hurts?
Please stop, that's all. Please stop. It gets worse, not better. I can't help it. I can't help
it, it hurts too much. I can't help it. I can't stand it. Some other time, that's all. Some
other time, that's all.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause)

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of this thing now, Alan. Contact the beginning of
it.

PC: All right. (mutters) All right.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (talking groggily for over a minute)

LRH: Let's contact the beginning of it. Who says, Go to sleep? Anybody say, Go to sleep?

PC: Go to sleep. I'm awfully tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm awfully tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm awfully tired; Not tonight. It hurts. Please.

LRH: Let's contact the beginning of it and see if we can't get a somatic off the beginning of it.
The first moment of it. Let's see if we can get the somatic.

PC: I'm tired.

LRH: Your somatic. (pause) Your somatic. Whose somatic have you got there?

PC: Don't know.

LRH: Let's contact your somatic. Run it through from the beginning again. Let's see if we
can contact it more closely.

PC: Let me see here, I'm tired.

LRH: Get that Go to sleep, I'm tired, or whatever it is.

PC: (mutters) It hurts. I'm so tired. It shouldn't hurt. But it does. By that time she was
saying it hurt when it didn't anymore.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of it and roll it on through. I'm tired, go to sleep,
or whatever it is.

PC: I'm tired, not tonight.



LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'm tired, not tonight.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm tired, not tonight. I'm tired, not tonight. Please. I feel a little queasy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Yes, but it hurts me all the same

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: No, it hurts too much, you'll just have to stop. No, don't you understand. I'm sorry
but I just hurt too much, that's all. Some other time. Please.

LRH: Hm?

PC: (mutters)

LRH: What's that?

PC: I don't think it did any harm. It just hurts, that's all.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact it at the beginning and roll it again. Let's see if we can contact your
somatics, your somatics, right at the beginning of it. What's the tactile as you're lying
there at the beginning of this incident?

PC: I don't have any.

LRH: Okay. And what comes now? What does your tactile show on it now?

PC: There's a long tingle.

LRH: Okay. Now what comes through to you there as you're lying there?

PC: (grunt) Talk.

LRH: All right. What do we hear there in the way of talk? We will have to get it.

PC: Not tonight.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Not tonight, I'm tired.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (pause; groan)

LRH: What comes through to you as you're lying there?

PC: (groan)



LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: (mutter)

LRH: All right. Let's contact that pain in there. What's the visio there?

PC: Darkness.

LRH: It's dark, huh?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Everything's as it should be. Keep rolling.

PC: (pause)

LRH: What's it doing now?

PC: Paining.

LRH: Where's the pain?

PC: In my middle.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: It's steady, hard digs.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Steady and hard. It spreads through the middle up there. (groan)

LRH: Okay.

PC: It's a steady pressure.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's going up and down. It hurts all the time. I keep getting worse and worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: More and more and more.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Damn. It hurts. The pain hurts. (groan)

LRH: Continue. What are the voices coming through to you there?

PC: Had to do something. Had to do something there, all right. Had to do something. Push.
(panting)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (breathing) Ooh.



LRH: Continue. What are the sounds coming through to you there?

PC: (cries out) Damn it, ooh! Damn that pain! Oh! Oh! I can't go on anymore, oh, anymore.
Oh, it hurts, it hurts, it hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (grunts and groans, whispers words, then coughs) It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Down there.

LRH: Did you have real pain in that one?

PC: There sure was.

LRH: All right. Was it your pain or your mother's pain?

PC: My pain.

LRH: Your pain, huh?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let's run back to the first instant that we get that pain. First instant we get that
pain.

PC: Which one? I've had two or three.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Had two or three now.

LRH: All right. Let's get to the first instant you get the first one.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Now, what is it? What does it say?

PC: Um, No, not tonight. I'm tired.

LRH: Is that the very first one?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now what comes with it?

PC: (mutters for about a minute)

LRH: All right. Let's get that first one again. Let's get that first one. Letb contact it good and
solid. Now let's contact that thing. What's being said just as you feel that pain? Let's
get that pain just as you feel it that first time. What are your perceptics just as you feel
that pain? What do you feel there with it? What do you hear?

PC: Pain.

LRH: And what next?



PC: It hurts.

LRH: What else?

PC: (mutter)

LRH: Okay. Let's get that first bump you feel there.

PC: Aha. (groan) It hurts. Please be careful. You know I'm always careful. (groan) It
hurts. Something just pushes a little bit harder and harder, steadily pushing going up
and down. A pushing pain.

LRH: Let's go back to the beginning of this thing now and roll it again from the first little
thing you feel straight on through. We won't stop on this one, we'll just keep rolling
through. Let's contact the first beginning little bump there.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Got it?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let's contact that, tell me everything you see, feel, hear, all the pain. Now,
just roll it.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It shouldn't hurt. But it does hurt. (groan) It hurts. No, it doesn't anymore. That's
strange, she says it does when it doesn't hurt me anymore. That's all.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans) Pushing up.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans) It hurts. (groan) Pushing. (groan, exhales)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Ah.

LRH: Tell me everything you see, feel, hear there.

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Nothing anymore.

LRH: All right. Let's get that Go to sleep out of it.

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Go to sleep. (moaning weakly)

LRH: Repeat it again.

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Once again.

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Once again.

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (very groggily) Go to sleep.

LRH: Alan?

PC: Go to sleep.

LRH: Alan?

PC: Yeah?

LRH: Come on up to the time you're eating an ice cream soda when you're a little boy.

PC: (pause) We used to go to the parlor and have chocolate smoothies after school.

LRH: All right. Let's just get one there.

PC: Hm. I've got it.

LRH: How is it?

PC: Nice.

LRH: How does it taste?

PC: Very good. It's cool, all chocolaty.

LRH: What's your emotion as you're eating it there?

PC: Um, I feel good.

LRH: Aha. Feel good in your mouth?

PC: Yah, mmm....



LRH: Okay. Come up to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Present time.

PC: Yah, present time.

LRH: Canceled. Five-four-three-two-one (snap!). How do you feel?

PC: Better. Igot there.

LRH: Huh?

PC: I got there.

LRH: Yah, sure you got there. You were right in that there was something before birth.

PC: Well, I even knew there was something before something leapt out.

Birth is a tough one to have to hit first. Alan, this will take the rest of the charge out of it.

When?

Let me give you a cigarette. You recognise what kind of an engram that was?

I think so.

What kind do you think it was?

Well, Papa was laying Mama a little after conception sometime in there and it hurt. I mean it
hurt me very mildly but it hurt a little bit. Most of her hurt talk was phoney too.

How did Mama feel about sex?

Something a woman had to go through to get a husband.

Oh, I see.

She was a beautiful woman too, full of sex appeal. It was a damn shame, it really was. I don't
think she ever had an orgasm in her life. Never really enjoyed it. There's where I got the idea
that that was the way women were and only men enjoyed it. Women kind of put up with it. She
didn't say that men were beasts or anything quite like that, but men were like that and a woman
just had to recognise it. (laugh)

Yah? You're working very well. There seems to be a lot of line charge on Mama's valence.

Yeah. I get over in there once in a while.

Well, you've been starting out in her valence. Once we get you out of that valence and properly
on the track you will be getting visio and sonic.

I still keep having a pain.

Alan, do you want me to run out your whole case this afternoon?

Could you stand it?



Oh, you mean you'd be willing to?

Well, you know more about this than I do. Am I supposed to be able to stand it?

(laughs) No, Alan, 15, 20 hours should release most of the line charge. In your book you say
it begins to get less effective in long sessions. Yes. What I'm talking about is after 15 or 20
hours of therapy you will have a release on all these line charges. And you should feel much
more comfortable. But if someone gets many hours of therapy with not enough sleep and then
more hours of therapy, the next thing you know, why, you get him into an incident and he has
no push left, and he feels miserable. So sometimes it comes down to this rock-bottom choice of
whether or not throwing him into the engram would restimulate him to the degree that he
wouldn't have the energy to get out of it easily. You're carrying quite a cargo, Alan.

A man must be aware himself of the whole damn system when you come down to it.

Yes. You ought to be taking vitamin B1.

Why's that?

Otherwise you're liable to come up with a nightmare. Your endocrine system must be getting a
little fagged already and the muscles must be tired.

I've done enough cavorting here to wear me out.

Yes, well, you're dramatizing the engrams back in the basic area rather than being on the
receiving end of them. Mama won in your family, I take it. Did she?

Oh, yes. Dad's of little help.

But she won.

She won.

That was the real survival valence.

She won. Gee, in her own little way. Except with me. I was the first guy that told her to go to
hell in her whole life, I think. When I was about 18 or so. And, boy, did I begin having
trouble.

How do you feel?

Not too good.

Is something hurting?

(burp)

Is something hurting specifically?

No. There's some nausea.

Nausea. You want me to pick up the nausea?

I'm more likely to upchuck. Does that happen?

Never saw it happen yet. I sure did a lot last night. But that was when it was over. There's this
feeling of pain that I have in my stomach, intestines, whichever it is, and when I have a spasm



it tightens up. And behind that gas backs up. So there's a physical condition as well as
everything else.

Yes. A self-generated physical condition.

Yeah.

Sure. Do you know anybody who used to string the line in your family, "It's all in your
imagination. That pain is in your mind"?

I don't think anybody ever did in my family.

All right. There's lots of material there that's charged merely because it's charged verbally. And
believe me that stuff goes out in a hurry. Somebody says, "It's unbearable, I can't stand it. I'll
never forget this pain...."

Oh, the first time that came out of me, the pain was just about as bad as it was when my wife
phoned you last night. And all of a sudden it just disappeared when that sentence came out.
Woo! Some pain came back again, sure, but it never came back to that peak.

You mean on the next succeeding run.

Yeah.

How was it on the last run?

Oh, there wasn't much pain here this last time, it was very mild.

Well, you see we're working against it a little bit here. We haven't got any unconsciousness off
your case yet.

No.

And there's unconsciousness in the basic area, there always is.

Really?

Yes, yawns, dope-off, boil-off.

What is the unconsciousness? Why will you always run into it? What is it from?

You just always run into it.

What's it from?

Oh, a person gets knocked unconscious and there is the impact going in and the way it comes
back out again is as unconsciousness. It's a two-way circuit. But worse than that, it seems to
have a physiological aspect in that it is contained in the system or something of the sort, and it
comes back out again.

But what goes on during that period of unconsciousness as I go through it? Do I say anything?

Sure, when you go through a boil-off, you sometimes dope off and dream. And then, after a
while, you will begin to pick up a somatic and a phrase and start to run the engram with yawns.
You yawn the thing out and when it's all yawned out the engram is gone, the unconsciousness
is gone, the words are gone, the pain's gone and the whole works are gone. That is when you
are working in the basic area. What we are doing up here along the line is deintensifying one



Alan to keep him from exploding out of the atom bomb so that down the line we will be able to
find material. What we're taking out is line charge.

You mean we weren't getting real material ?

Oh! This stuff is all real, but what we are taking off is line charge, the charge that goes along a
person's whole life. Now that's a valence. We're taking charge off your mother's valence.
Boy, she really had you backed up in there.

Yeah. That's exactly what my analyst found out. It took him over a year where it took you
about an hour and a half, but he was smart enough to know that, as he expressed it, I was my
mother.

But you're not your mother. Tell someone that he is his mother, and you are liable to reinforce
the valence. You can go down the track and shift the person into various valences. So in
present time you could tell a person he was his mother, and thereby shift him into her valence.

Grim.

Let's make a little experiment. Let's just shift valence over to your father's valence. How does
your father act?

He always tried to act consciously, quiet.

Hm-hm.

He never quarreled, he never lost his temper.

You're not rubbing your stomach now, are you?

No.

Do you see the point?

Yes.

This is a therapeutic technique that is used in Dianetics in order to run out the valence. And then
you run out Papa's valence; he's the secondary valence in this case, not from the value of the
human being, but merely in the engrams. And then we get the baby. That was the last thing one
wanted to be was the baby, caught betwixt.

I've got to get rid of being the baby.

Yes. But right now what we're getting rid of is Mama.

[There is a gap in the recording here.]

LRH: All right. What are you contacting there?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Can you contact anything at the beginning of track?

PC: No, I don't seem to get anything at all.

LRH: All right. How does it feel around you at this end of the track?

PC: A little warm, fairly comfortable.



LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I mean dark.

LRH: Dark. What's the tactile on it?

PC: Warm and moist.

LRH: All right. Now let's move forward. The somatic strip will move to an instant of
discomfort in the vicinity of the beginning of track. An instant of discomfort. Mild or
otherwise.

PC: (pause) If eel a little pain.

LRH: Hm-hm. Okay.

PC: There's a gurgling sound.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can pick up the first instant of this tiny bit of whatever I you're
feeling there. The first instant of it.

PC: No. You'll never belieue it.

LRH: All right. You can contact it again. (pause) The somatic strip will contact it again. (long
pause) Is there a phrase that goes with it?

PC: No, I can't hear any talk.

LRH: Can't what?

PC: I can't hear any talk.

LRH: Get that gurgle?

PC: Yes. But there's gurgling in my own intestines and it's hard to tell.

LRH: Go over this: It's hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Go over it again. Earliest time it appears in the bank. It's hard to tell. Earliest moment
on the track.

PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Earliest instant this occurs.

PC: It's hard to tell.



LRH: If it does occur. It's hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell whether it will do any
good or not.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: It's hard to tell whether it will do any good or not.

LRH: Earliest moment this is uttered. Go over it again.

PC: It's hard to tell whether it will do any good or not.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: But I'll try anyway.

LRH: Go over it again. It's hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell if it will do any good. It's hard to tell if it will do any good or not.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can contact the sonic on that incident there.

PC: It's hard to tell if it will do any good or not. Hard to tell if it will do any good or not,
but I'll try anyway.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's hard to tell if it will do any good or not, but I'll try it anyway. It won't do any
harm.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's hard to tell if it will do any good or not, but I'll try it anyway. It won't do any
harm, not at this stage anyway.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Of course I really don't know. I'm not sure. Oh yes, I'must be pregnant. (sigh) Oh, but
I've got to moue my bowels some way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I Me got to moue my bowels some way.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I Me got to move my bowels some way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I Me got to move my bowels some way. I've got to move my bowels some way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: This is certainly the safest.

LRH: Continue.



PC: They re always so violent.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, my head hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I seem to fill up so fast. I seem to fill up so fast.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I seem to fill up so fast, this pain is uncomfortable. It ought to do some good.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Very uncomfortable, but it ought to do some good.

LRH: Next line. PC That ought to be enough (sighs and mutters)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: A lot of gas.

LRH: Continue.

PC: A lot of gas. It's so uncomfortable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, it hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Not very comfortable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Not very comfortable. I'll go lay down for a little while.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sighing) It hurts so bad. That's better.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) It hurts. (sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's as hard as a rock, I can't stand it, it hurts so much.

LRH: Contact it from the beginning now. Contact the somatic with it. It's hard to tell.



PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (muttering) . . . it hurts. (more muttering)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It doesn't move. (muttering)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. (inarticulate sounds, muttering and small groans) Now it's worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutters disjointed sounds, and sighs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (coughs)

LRH: Contact the cough.

PC: Huh?

LRH: Get a sonic on her cough?

PC: (mutters) Kind of-kind of-kind I of.... (exhales)

LRH: Continue. (pause) What's happening to her now?

PC: Huh. Jiggles.

LRH: Jiggles. Okay. Continue.

PC: Jiggles, jiggles.

LRH: What's she doing?

PC: Coughing.

LRH: Okay.

PC: (panting)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Okay. (grunts and mutters) . . . pushing. Keeps on pushing.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (grunts several times) Right there. Right across there. Right across there.



LRH: Continue.

PC: Something's just sore right across there. (groans)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: What's she doing?

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Let's go back to the first jostle.

PC: (muttering)

LRH: First anything that disturbs you there in the engram.

PC: Okay.

LRH: What are you contacting?

PC: Being pushed down.

LRH: All right. Let's feel that push.

PC: (mutters)

LRH: Feel that push.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (breathing, mumbles)

LRH: Continue. What's being said with this pushing and jostling?

PC: (muttering)

LRH: Contact it.

PC: (moving about, muttering)

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the moment there when shed saying, It's hard to tell.

PC: Hard to tell.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Phone Joe, he'll help you out.

LRH: Continue.



PC: At least not this time

LRH: Continue.

PC: (mutters isolated words and short phrases) It hurts so much.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (more muttering)

LRH: Let's go back to hard to tell.

PC: It's hard to tell.

LRH: Is there anything earlier than hard to tell?

PC: It s hard to tell.

LRH: Anything earlier?

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Okay.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Is that what she says?

PC: Yes, My tummy hurts.

LRH: Okay. Letb go over that again.

PC: My tummy hurts, I think it's from gas.

LRH: Continue.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts bad.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Boy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I ve got a lot of gas, I guess. It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I d better take something. It's hard to tell, though. Hard to tell. (whispering) Better try
it anyway. It tastes bad. I wonder why it should hurt so.

LRH: Continue.



PC: Yes. I'll be safe anyway. It will probably help.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whispering)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whispering and sighing) Oh, it hurts, oh. (sighs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sighing)

LRH: Continue. Repeat the words at the beginning now. My tummy....

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Get an audio on it.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Keep rolling.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Contact the somatic. Keep rolling.

PC: (yawns)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whispers) It hurts. (pause) It hurts. (yawn)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I don't know. (pause; sigh) Oh, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. They
don't believe me. (yawn)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (lengthy mutter)

LRH: Continue.

PC: She's rocking in a rocking chair.

LRH: Okay. Continue. What are you contacting there?

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Continue that.

PC: Pushing him away.



LRH: Hm?

PC: Pushing him away.

LRH: Hm-hm. Let's contact the beginning of this. My tummy hurts.

PC: (whispers) My tummy hurts.

LRH: Contact it solidly now. Get the somatic with it. My tummy hurts. (pause) My tummy
hurts.

PC: come here.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Come here. (Who's saying that?) Come right here.

LRH: You've got come here there?

PC: No. Right here.

LRH: All right. Contact My tummy hurts.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My tummy hurts, my tummy hurts.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Contact her vocal there.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Hm-hm. Let's go over that sequence again there. My tummy hurts.

PC: My tummy hurts.... (muttering)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (barely audible mumbling)

LRH: Continue. Contact the somatic through there.

PC: (muttering)

LRH: How do you feel?

PC: All right.

LRH: Hm?

PC: All right.



LRH: Feel fine?

PC: Not fine.

LRH: Why don't you feel fine?

PC: I have a little pain in my tummy.

LRH: Well, where do you get that? My tummy hurts.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Let's contact that.

PC: My tummy hurts. (suddenly speaks more clearly) But it was her tummy that hurt, not
mine.

LRH: What?

PC: It's her tummy that hurts.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it.

PC: (resumes muffled speech) It's her tummy that hurts, not mine.

LRH: What?

PC: Why should mine be hurting?

LRH: Okay.

PC: It's her tummy, not mine.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll it, let's roll it. My tummy hurts, she says.

PC: My tummy hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: My tummy hurts. My tummy hurts. I'd better get something for it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Nausea.

LRH: What's the matter?

PC: I feel nausea. LRH. You feel nausea?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: What's she say about nausea?

PC: She felt nauseated so I feel nausea.

LRH: What's she saying about nausea there?

PC: Gee, she says, I feel nauseated.



LRH: Continue.

PC: That's a good one. I'm going to throw up, there's a burning taste down the back of my
throat.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: Yes. I'd better do something for it.

LRH: Continue. What have you got there? The earliest moment of it?

PC: I don't know, sometimes I'm in one, and sometimes I'm in another. I don't know what
I've got.

LRH: Sometimes you're in one what?

PC: Sometimes I'm me and sometimes it's her.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the earliest moment of this.

PC: (grunt; long pause; murmurs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; murmur) Ijustgotpushed around.

LRH: Did you feel the pushes?

PC: Hm, sure, and it hurt.

LRH: All right.

PC: General pushes.

LRH: Let's contact the first part of this and roll it through again.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Come on. Let's roll it through again. Contact the first part of it.

PC: (mumble)

LRH: Hm-hm. Contact the first part of it.

PC: (mutters)

LRH: No, let's go back to the tummy hurting. Pick up the full somatic now in your own
valence, all the way through on it.

PC: Hm-hm. Oh yes, yes.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll her on through from the beginning.

PC: Yes, Iget somebody pushing her. No wonder her tummy hurts.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the first moment of it.



PC: (murmur)

LRH: What else does she say there?

PC: (murmur)

LRH: What's she saying through all that? Contact the somatic.

PC: Sick at the stomach.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: Sick at the stomach.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Sick at the stomach. (pants)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Sick at the stomach, sick at the stomach. (belches)

LRH: So what's she saying?

PC: (sigh) .

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: Don t worry, don't worry.

LRH: Continue. What's next?

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh) Oh, dear, Idon't want to.

LRH: Go through that again.

PC: Oh, dear, I don't want to.

LRH: Continue. [the recording ends at this point] Session, 10 June 1950

LRH: Okay, Alan, close your eyes. At any time in the future when I say the word canceled, it
will cancel whatever I have said to you while you're lying there on the bed with your
eyes closed. Okay?

PC: Yup.

LRH: Now what we want to find right now is the first moment of sympathy which your
father gave your mother. Prenatal, the first moment of sympathy that Papa gave Mama
because Mama was sick.

PC: (pause) Yeah, he wouldn't say very much but he was very sympathetic.

LRH: Okay.



PC: (pause) No, don't try to do anything, just lie there.

LRH: Let's see what we can contact there.

PC: No, don't try to get up. Just lie there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'll take care of things.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She says, Oh no, this is natural. This is just part of it. Let's call the doctor. I'll call him
for you. Maybe he can give you something to make you rest a little more. Oh no, I'll
be better if I can just lie down for a while. Is there anything I can get for you? No. No,
I don't think so. Didn't the doctor give you something that would settle your stomach
or do something? Yes, but it really doesn't do any good. It seems to have to run its
course and then it's all right. And I feel better. Be sure to tell me if there's anything I
can do. Well, I know one thing, better get the basin from the bathroom and put it here
near me just in case it comes over me all of a sudden, and I can't make it to the
bathroom. You can put it on the chair right there. Oh, and the towel too. (pause) Htn, I
can hear the basin when he puts it on the chair. All right. Nothing else? (pause) Not
right now. Well, just take it easy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I haven't got any more.

LRH: All right. Let's contact it from the beginning now. Contact the first moment of it.

PC: (coughs)

LRH: That's it. Let's get that cough.

PC: Boy, that's my dad.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Hm-hm, his cough.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: Oh, that's too bad, dear. Is there anything I can do for you? No, I can't think of
anything. Do you want me to call the doctor? Oh no, it doesn't really feel bad. It's
natural, it's part of the whole thing. One just has to go through it, that's all. You know
it has always been this way, and I will have to put up with this for a while, that's all.
But it always passes in time. Didn't he give you something that you could take to settle
your stomach when you feel this way? Something like bisenthol, wasn't it? Yes, but it
doesn't do any good. Nothing seems to do any good. Just have to let it run its natural
course.

LRH: Continue.

PC: As a matter of fact it's better that I can go ahead and throw up because then it seems to
pass more quickly. Iget rid of it faster. It is just tying here feeling the pains and feeling
as if you're going to throw up which is so uncomfortable. It's always better to go ahead
and do it, and then you feel much better.



LRH: Continue.

PC: I know how you feel. Don't you worry about a thing, I'll take care of everything. You
just lie there. Are you sure there isn't anything I can do before Igo? No, I can't think of
anything. Oh yes, there's one thing, if you could get the basin from the bathroom and
put it up here in case it comes over me all of a sudden and Ijust can't get to the
bathroom.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Oh yes, and get a towel too. Put it right there on the chair. Thank you. Will you call me
if there is anything you need? Yes, I'll call you.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the beginning of it. Let's pick up any somatic you might have there.
What's your tactile there at the beginning of it?

PC: Don't seem to have any.

LRH: Roll it from the beginning.

PC: (muttering)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's usually better if you can'throw up.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You get over it quicker that way, but only if you throw up.

LRH: Let's go to the earliest moment now we get the words. The earliest moment. The first
time the words appear in the case. Throw up. First time they appear on the track. The
first moment after conception that the words throw up appear. Repeat it.

PC: Throw up

LRH: Earliest time.

PC: Throw up Throw up Throw up Throw up. I feel as though I'm going to throw up.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You know what that means. It's not a terribly strong feeling but I certainly don't feel
like eating.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's not terribly strong. It's uncomfortable of course, but it's the beginning when I just
fizzle.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Is there anything special that the . doctor recommends? It's best not to see the doctor.
I'll go up and lie down. It will pass in a little while. Yes, do that, please. That's a good
idea. (pause) Go ahead. Jenny will take care of all these things. I'll tell her you're not
feeling well. I'll be upstairs. Hm. Well, maybe I'd better go up now. Aren't you going
to say anything about what it means? Oh, oh yes. Well, you can't be really sure of
anything. All right. I haven't seen a doctor. Of course I'm very tired. Are you sure



you're all right? Yes, of course I am. Yes, I am, in a way. We'll see what the next nine
months is going to mean. I don't know why I said that. Only I do hope it will be a girl
this time. Yes, that would be nice to have a girl. Would you rather have a boy? Well, it
doesn't really make any difference to me, but it does to you. You've wanted a girl. Oh,
but I don't really mind.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You'don't seem too enthusiastic.

LRH: Any somatics through here?

PC: Oh, not really.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Not really. I hear a few things, I hear a dish and a chair scrape across the floor a little
bit. Nothing else. Nobody else there.

LRH: Okay. How do you feel about this one? This is the second time through it.

PC: Feels fine.

LRH: Let's roll it again just to make sure.

PC: Oh dear, I feel as if I'm going to throw up. You know what that means? No, what? I'm
pregnant again. Oh, really? Has the time gone by? No, not yet but I know the feeling.

LRH: The file clerk will now give us the first incident in the case that's necessary to relieve it.

PC: How does the file clerk know what relieves ?

LRH: (chuckles) Well, relieves, that's a restimulative word isn't it?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Okay. Let's see if we can contact the earliest engram there that we were running last
night. Let's contact it, the first end. Earliest one in the bank. First end of it. (pause) My
tummy hurts. First words. First time we hear My tummy hurts in this.

PC: Oh, the file clerk hands me about fiue thousand My tummy hurts.

LRH: Let's get the first one. First time she said it.

PC: My tummy hurts. Isn't there something I can do? No, no, there's nothing you can do
for it. It passes. You just have to go through it. Sometimes it lasts half an hour and
sometimes it lasts more. Just go now, please.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over that line. Just go now.

PC: Just go now.

LRH:. Continue.

PC: (whispering)

LRH: Continue.



PC: (whisper, changing to mutter) Yes, of course.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (more muttering)

LRH: Let's roll it again.

PC: (still whispering) Oh dear, men are so stupid sometimes.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Men are so stupid sometimes

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Oh, dear. Men are so stupid sometimes.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the beginning of it now, the beginning of the sequence.

PC: (grunt) What's the matter, don't you feel well? No, my tummy hurts. I'll try to get my
mind off of it.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Try to forget the pain. Try to get your mind off of it.

LRH: Let's contact the incident.

PC: Try to forget the pain, try to get your mind off of it.

LRH: Did you contact something there? (pause) All right. Forget the pain, get your mind off
of it. Go over those words.

PC: Forget the pain, get your mind off of it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Forget the pain, get your mind off of it. Forget the pain, get your mind off of it. Forget
the pain, get your mind off of it.

LRH: Go back to sleep.

PC: (muttering) Go to sleep.

LRH: Go over Go to sleep.

PC: Go to sleep. There's a doctor talking.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll it.

PC: Forget the pain, get your mind off of it. It's not too likely to be like this. You'don't
seem to know how bad it is. Yes. Yes, I know, but you're just making it worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You re dwelling on it so much that you make it worse.



LRH: Continue.

PC: If You could get your mind off of it, it wouldn't be so bad.

LRH: Continue. You're dwelling on it. Go over that.

PC: You re dwelling on it

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You re dwelling on it

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: You re dwelling on it

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of this engram and run it on through.

PC: You re dwelling on it. (pause) You're dwelling on it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know how I can stand this pain, I feel terrible.

LRH: Contact your own pain there now. Roll it.

PC: It hurts. (shifting position, moaning, panting, crying)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing words) .It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moan)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (speaks with difficulty)

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: (moans a few words)

LRH: Continue. Keep rolling it.

PC: (moans a few words)

LRH: Attaboy. Roll it.

PC: (sigh, heavy breathing)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whispers urgently) Come on. What's going on?

LRH: Continue.



PC: What s going on anyway? (exhales) I don't know.

LRH: Continue. (brief pause) All right. Contact the beginning of it.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Contact the beginning of it. There. Repeat there.

PC: (aloud)There.

LRH: There. Contact the somatic with it.

PC: There.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (painfully) There. There. No. Do it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: There. It hurts. (pant) I don't want it to blow up. (groan, seems to be breathing with
difficulty)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan; pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan)

LRH: Continue. What's she saying? What are the noises?

PC: (exhales, breathes heavily) I don't know.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of it again. Contact the beginning of it. First
moment of that pain in your stomach.

PC: (groan) It hurts.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: (groans, inarticulate sounds)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans, inarticulate sounds, breathes deeply) It hurts. I want to make it better.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (moans out inarticulate words; sounds as if forcing words past a barrier)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans, breathes deeply) Whoo.

LRH: Contact the beginning of that again.



PC: (exhales)

LRH: The first moment that you were disturbed in there. Pick up the first instant you were
disturbed. The first instant you were disturbed. What do you get with that, before the
poke? First instant you're disturbed. First instant you're disturbed.

PC: (cough)

LRH: The cough?

PC: No. (whispers a few words)

LRH: All right. Contact the first instant of disturbance.

PC: (writhing around)

LRH: Contact the first instant of disturbance there. What's happening at the beginning?
You're lying there comfortably, fairly comfortably? Are you or aren't you?

PC: No, I'm not. I'm a little twisted around.

LRH: All right. Let's get back a few minutes before this when you're comfortable, if there is a
period here just before this.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: The somatic strip can go to the comfortable moment just prior to this. A nice
comfortable moment before this sequence. The somatic strip's there now. How do you
feel?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Feel twisted?

PC: No, the pain

LRH: What?

PC: Pain.

LRH: Where's the pain?

PC: Here. It's in my chest right now.

LRH: All right, now tell me something. Was there a stomach pain on the other one?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Are there two distinct pains there or just one?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: First one and then the other?

PC: It's hard to tell. My stomach's all right now.

LRH: All right. Now give me a flash reply. Which is first? Chest or stomach?



PC: Chest.

LRH: All right, chest was first. All right, let's contact the chest. What are the words that come
with the first instant of chest pain? When I count to five you'll give me the words that
come with it. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: Oh, I don't know.

LRH: Hm?

PC: My chest.

LRH: I don't know?

PC: I don't know, but that is mine.

LRH: That's yours. Okay. Now what's hers? (pause) Come on, chest pain.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: Chest pain. The first instant there you receive that chest pain. Your somatic strip can
locate it now.

PC: I've got an idea what the trouble is.

LRH: What?

PC: It's hurting now.

LRH: It's hurting now. Go over that.

PC: It's hurting now.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's hurting now.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's hurting now. It's hurting now.

LRH: All right. Give me a flash phrase. Any flash phrase. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: Yes, it s hurting now. That's what she says.

LRH: Okay. Go over it again.

PC: Yes, it s hurting now

LRH: Next line.

PC: Yes, its hurting. Yes, it's hurting.

LRH: Next line through this.

PC: Chest pain. Chest. Oh, my chest.

LRH: Okay.



PC: (groaning words) Oh, my chest.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (few groans)

LRH: Let's get back to the first moment of discomfort, now, of this sequence.

PC: Okay.

LRH: First moment of discomfort of this sequence. Contact it in your own valence and roll it.

PC: (pause; exhales, groans words) Where does it hurt? Oh, it hurts right there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groans) It's right where it always hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts so much Iget tired of it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: That's what she's saying. Now I really feel a little better.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Oh, no place.

LRH: Let's contact the somatic on that chest pain now.

PC: Mine?

LRH: Your somatic on the chest pain. What do you get?

PC: The chest pain, I guess.

LRH: Well, contact it to its fullest intensity now. The instant of receipt.

PC: Igot that before. First time.

LRH: All right. The instant of its receipt. Now what have you got with it?

PC: (mutters)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know what she said after that. Something like, It hurts so much that sometimes I
can't stand it.

LRH: Continue.



PC: (murmur)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh gosh, I forgot about that. (mutters a few phrases disjointedly)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Who's she talking to? (whispers) Who's she talking to? (mutters) I can't hear her say
anything. The pain of the thing will always come back.

LRH: What's that?

PC: She's saying, The pain will always come back.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: It was a lot better for a while but the pain always comes back.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It always comes back, but it's worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know how I can stand it. I don't know how I can stand it. I don't know how I
can stand all that pain.

LRH: All right. Let's contact that other one. Right there. There. Right there.

PC: (dragging out the words) Where does it hurt? Oh, there, there, right there.

LRH: Come on, let's get this moment there where you're being poked. Your pain. Your pain.

PC: (mutters)

LRH: All right. Let's contact the moment when you got a pain.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Personally now, do you feel that poke?

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Poke.

PC: Oh no, Ijust can't stand it. It really hurts but it's not as strong as it was. It's out there.
(sigh)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Where does it hurt? Oh, I can just feel it, over there.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I can just feel it over there. The poor man doesn't know what to say so he says, Just
where does it hurt? She says, Where does it hurt? There, there, that's where it hurts.
I've told you a million times.



LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: Where does it hurt? There, there, that's where it hurts. I've told you a million times.
Right there. It hurts so much sometimes I feel like dying.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; sound of breathing) It always comes back to me. When it comes back it feels
worse than ever. When it comes back it feels worse than ever.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: When it comes back it feels worse than ever.

LRH: All right. Now let's contact your own personal pain. A pain in your stomach.

PC: All right. It's a pain in my chest that was my own personal pain, it wasn't yours or
anybody else's.

LRH: Okay.

PC: But it was in my chest.

LRH: All right. Now let's get the one in your stomach. Let's get the one in your stomach.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Contact that one in your stomach. The first moment you receive it. Contact the one in
your stomach.

PC: (breathing audibly) There, that ought to do it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: That ought to do it I

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts, but it ought to make it better.

LRH: Continue. The next line.

PC: It hurts, but it ought to make it better.

LRH: Continue. The next line.

PC: (says with a sigh) Oh.

LRH: Continue. The next line.

PC: It hurts, but it ought to make it better.

LRH: Continue. Next line.

PC: Had to do something to make it better.

LRH: Run over that again.



PC: Had to do something to make it better.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (sigh) I had to do something to make it better.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Oh, it hurts in my stomach. Do something to make it better.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Can't get it. Had to do something to make it get better.

LRH: All right. Give me a bouncer. (pause) Give me a bouncer. (pause) What kind of a
bouncer? Got to get it out?

PC: No.

LRH: What is the bouncer? (pause) Now go over the sequence again and let's see if we can
locate it. Get that stomach pain there the first instant you receive it, the stomach pain at
the first instant you receive it, the stomach pain at the first instant you receive it, the first
instant there.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Now roll it.

PC: (breathing audibly)

LRH: There.

PC: There, that's that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: There, that ought to do it. I locked the door.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts. It ought to make it better. (sigh) It hurts, but it ought to make it better. (sighs,
mutters some sentences) Had to try something anyway. (pause) I can't stand the pain.
Had to try something anyway, couldn't stand the pain. Don't know if I feel better or
not.

LRH: All right, let's contact that stomach pain the first instant you receive it.

PC: Get out of there.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it. Go over it again.

PC: Get out of there.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it. If it exists, there might be another phrase.

PC: Get out of there.



LRH: Is that it?

PC: No, Get out of there doesn't fit.

LRH: Get out.

PC: Get out. Get out. (mutters)

LRH: Go away. This will make it stop?

PC: Go away.

LRH: Go away.

PC: Go away. Go away.

LRH: All right. What are the first sentences of that poke in the stomach?

PC: There, that ought to do it. That ought to do it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: But I have to try something.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It hurts but I have to try to do something.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It hurts but I have to try to do something.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It hurts but I have to try to do something.

LRH: Next line there.

PC: The pain was so bad.

LRH: What's that?

PC: The pain was so bad.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: The pain was so bad.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: The pain was so bad. It hurts. It was so bad.

LRH: Let's contact the somatic now on that sequence. The stomach somatic on that sequence.
Did you contact it?



PC: Ooh, a little bit.

LRH: All right. Let's try and contact it.

PC: (pause) Oh, boy.

LRH: All right. Contact the initial pain.

PC: (sigh) First there's not so much pain, it's just pressure.

LRH: Yah, then what occurred?

PC: It hurts but maybe it'll feel better. It hurts but maybe it'll make it feel better.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I had to try to do something. The pain is so bad.

LRH: Continue.

PC: The pain is so bad. I had to try and do something, the pain is so bad. It hurts, couldn't
get any relief.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I know, but this is really something else.

LRH: Continue.

PC: But they couldn't make it any worse anyway.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Im not getting any worse.

LRH: What other phrase is there? Does the word come appear there, or come out?

PC: Come ? No I wish all that stuff would come out.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I wish all that stuff would come out.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I wish all that stuff would come out.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I wish all that stuff would come out.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (muttering)

LRH: Continue.



PC: (mutters several disjointed phrases)

LRH: All right. Lets go back to the original stomach pain now.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. Contact the beginning of it, now. What's your tactile there at the beginning?

PC: (exhales) Chestpain.

LRH: All right. Let's go over what that chest pain's all about. Let's regress back to the first
moment you received the chest pain.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Got that?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. What does he say?

PC: He's saying, Where's the pain? She says, There, there. Right there, I've told you a
million times, there. It hurts so much sometimes I feel like pounding it, and sometimes
it even makes it feel a little better.

LRH: Continue.

PC: But that pain always comes back. It always comes back worse than ever. [LRH turns
the session over to another auditor who completes it.]

Session, 16 June 1950

LRH: Okay, Alan, tell me something. Do you remember the time when this feeling first
kicked in on you?

PC: The first somatic? It happened many times, sure. The earliest one I remember is when I
took my wife to the hospital.

LRH: All right. You think that's the first time it kicked in?

PC: The first pain of this sort, yes.

LRH: When you were taking your wife to the hospital?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Close your eyes.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Let's go back to the time when you put her in the car.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Now what occurs?



PC: It's night, about 10:30. Pretty quiet out, summertime. The car was parked in the back
of the apartment lot with the old Dodge next to it. We go to the car, Iput the bag in. She
says, This may be silly, the pains aren't very close together really. We may be going a
little too early. And I say, No, let's go over to the hospital. It's better to be early than
late. Then I shut the door.

LRH: Letb go over the words Better to be early than late.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Let's repeat it back to the earliest part of the bank that we can find it.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Better to be early than late.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Better to be early than late. It's better to be early than late. It's better to be early than
late. Earlier than late.

LRH: Contact it again. Better to be early than late.

PC: It's better to be early than late. It's better to be early than late.

LRH: Let's see if we can contact anything early on. Better to be early than late.

PC: Better to be early than late. (coughs)

LRH: Hm-hm. Go over it again.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Let's contact it.

PC: Early than late. Early than late.

LRH: Better to be early than late.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Better to be early than late.

LRH: Contact the somatic in this.

PC: Early than late. Better to be early than late. Better to be early than late. Better to be early
than late. I can't pick up a thing.

LRH: Okay. Let's see if we can contact the earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness now
in existence. The earliest moment now in existence.

PC: (coughs)

LRH: What do we get with that cough?



PC: Um. (coughs) Coughing makes it hurt. Coughing makes it hurt. (coughs)

LRH: What do we get with that Coughing makes it hurt?

PC: Coughing makes it hurt. Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now?
Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now? Coughing makes it hurt.
Why did I have to get a cold now?

LRH: All right. The somatic strip can contact the first jolt of this incident. The first jolt.

PC: (long pause) Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now ?

LRH: All right. Let's contact this again. Roll it through.

PC: (clears throat) Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now ?

LRH: Let's go back to the cough. First moment of the cough.

PC: Yeah. I can hear it.

LRH: All right.

PC: It's my mother.

LRH: Okay. How does it feel on you when she coughs?

PC: I don't feel much of anything.

LRH: All right. Let's just contact the first moment of it.

PC: She's talking to my father. It's funny. His cough sounds entirely different. Oh, he
coughs then, just when she's talking about it to him. This is more like a clearing of the
throat than a cough, I would say, both together.

LRH: Continue.

PC: He keeps saying something, about hearing her cough makes his throat tickle and makes
him cough too. Yes, you ought to have that operation on your nose the doctor told you
about to fix that. Why don't you go and have that fixed? He said it wasn't much of an
operation and it would stop all that coughing you do every morning.

LRH: All right. Letb contact the first part of this and see if we can put some tactile on it now
as we go through it.

PC: Yeah. I hear her cough. It's a tight cough. I get a little feeling across the back mainly.
Then she says, Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now? I should
probably have some cough medicine. Well, then you do it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: There's more. Then my dad says, Hearing you cough makes my throat tickle. But I
have to cough. And she coughs again and it hurts right in the back of my neck. Then
my dad says, Why don't you go ahead and get that operation the doctor said you ought
to have? She coughs again and says, Oh, damn. Then he says, Do you hear me? Yes.
The doctor said it wasn't much of an operation. You ought to have it done. Then you
won't cough so much every morning. Then she coughs again. Oh, dear. That will do



it. That will stop this coughing. I don't mind the cough so much but it hurts my tummy
every time I do it.

LRH: Okay, let's go back through this thing again. Pick up the first cough. And see if we can
get some tactile there. What's your sensation of visio, any sensation of visio there as
you go through this?

PC: No, not really. What I see when I speak of my mother and father saying anything, it's
only as I know they looked during the last few years. I don't see them as they were
then.

LRH: Okay, let's go through it again and see if we can get a visio sensation at the moment
these words are being said.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: The visio sensation you had the moment these words were being said.

PC: Hm-hm. There's a cough, Coughing makes it hurt. Why did I have to get a cold now?
It hurts.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It hurts so much when I cough.

LRH: Okay. How do you feel through this incident?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now let's go to a much earlier incident, a much, much earlier incident. The somatic
strip can go to a much earlier incident than this.

PC: (pause; coughs)

LRH: Make contact with that one.

PC: (mutters)

LRH: Hm? Contact that first cough.

PC: (long pause) Hm-hm.

LRH: Can you contact it?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Give me the first phrase that flashes into your mind. One-two-threefour-five
(snap./).

PC: Don t kiss me, I've got a cold.

LRH: Okay.

PC: (coughs) Don't kiss me, I've got a cold.

LRH: Let's go over that again. Let's contact the cough.

PC: Don t kiss me, I've a cold. .



LRH: Let's re-experience that cough, how does it feel?

PC: I don't feel it, Ijust hear it.

LRH: Let's see if you can shift over into your own valence now thoroughly and contact it.
You're doing just fine. Let's see if we can feel this now.

PC: No. (coughs)

LRH: What are we getting with that?

PC: I don't get any feeling except at the moment of the cough.

LRH: All right. What are the words that follow the cough?

PC: Don't kiss me, I've got a cold.

LRH: What does your father say?

PC: That doesn't make any difference to me.

LRH: Hm?

PC: That doesn't make any difference to me.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: That doesn't make any difference to me.

LRH: What's the next line? Continue.

PC: My cold never got well.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Then Mother says something and Dad says, To hell with the cold.

LRH: Let's roll it again.

PC: (coughs)

LRH: What words go with it?

PC: Don t kiss me, I've got a cold. That doesn't make any difference to me. (pause)

LRH: Let's go over the cough again.

PC: Yeah. (pause; muttering) I feel pushed down there.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I feel kind of like pushed down.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over what we get there.



PC: (pause) She says, Don't kiss me, I've got a cold. It doesn't make any difference to me.
I'll never let a cold stand in my way. Oh, my back hurts. Ijust don't want to give it to
you. Then she coughs. To hell with the cold, to hell with the cold, he said.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Hm ?

LRH: What do you get with it now?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: All right. Let's go over it again.

PC: She coughs and says, Don't kiss me, I've got a cold. That doesn't make any difference
to me. I'll never let a cold stand in my way. I just don't want to give it to you. To hell
with the cold.

LRH: All right. Let's go over it again. And let's see if we can contact it a little more closely
this time. Let's see if we can feel that push.

PC: Don t kiss me, I've got a cold. That makes no difference to me. I'll never let a cold
stand in my way. (brief mutter)

LRH: Let's get the cough again. Let's contact the cough again. Roll it on through.

PC: Don t kiss me, I've got a cold. That doesn't make any difference to me. I'll never let a
cold stand in my way. I don't care about that. Ijust don't want to give it to you.

LRH: Continue.

PC: To hell with the cold.

LRH: All right. Now let's go to the earliest time there when your father wants to do it and
your mother can't do it because she's got a pain in her stomach. He's trying to persuade
her. He can't do it because she's got a pain in her stomach. The first time this occurs.

PC: Well, she says, No, not tonight.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I ve got a pain. My stomach hurts. (grunts)

LRH: Continue, you're doing fine. Lets repeat those first words again.

PC: No, not tonight.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: No, not tonight.

LRH: Now what does your father say?

PC: (few muttered sounds)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (muttering) I can't get the rest of what he says.



LRH: Continue.

PC: It's not how careful you are, it's that I've got a terrible pain without anything being
done.

LRH: Continue.

PC: No, please. (pause)

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue. (pause) Let's go over that last line again.

PC: (mutters) No ... please....

LRH: All right. The somatic strip can contact the first part of this now. Let's see if we can
contact the somatic right at the first part of this and roll it on through. (pause) What are
the first words?

PC: No, not tonight.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I ve got a pain in my tummy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: The thing is I couldn't possibly do it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Sort of jerks on my shoulder.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (snorts) Please don't, that hurt. Please!

LRH: Continue.

PC: (words muttered slowly)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, hell. That's what he said. Huh!

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't feel.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I can't feel it anymore.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the beginning of that and roll it again. Bert will take you on
through this. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Back to the beginning. Roll it again.

[The session is handed over to another auditor who completes it.]

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AUDITING DEMONSTRATION part 3

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AUDITING DEMONSTRATION

Session with Pearl Silverman
7 June 1950

Repairing Past Auditing

LRH: Now, Pearl, I've been hearing some very bad reports on your case, that you were being
recalcitrant and generally in very bad shape.

PC: Oh, really?

LRH: Yes. Now tell me, what do you recall of your grandfather's and grandmother's deaths?

PC: They're both occluded .

LRH: What do you recall of them right now in present time?

PC: Well, let's see. I'd better take them one at a time.

LRH: Okay. Who died first?

PC: My grandfather.

LRH: See, you do know something about it, so it's not occluded.

PC: (laughs) All I seem to remember is that I lost a little mealtime as a result. (chuckles)

LRH: Okay.

PC: I know damn little about it.

LRH: How old were you?

PC: It was in `41. I was-uh-(laughs) I couldn't say.

LRH: You can take your glasses off.

PC: That's really funny.

LRH: 1941, when were you born?

PC: I was born in `22.

LRH: Okay. And your grandfather? What was your pet name for him?

PC: Grady.

LRH: And did he used to be nice to you?

PC: Very.

LRH: Very nice. And what did he used to bring you?

PC: His gifts were usually monetary, fire dollar gold pieces, five dollar bills on my
birthday....



LRH: Hm-hm. Did you enjoy getting these?

PC: I think I had a funny feeling about getting money from him. He gave all his
grandchildren money on their birthdays and other holidays.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But I think there was some sort of a funny feeling about getting money from him. I
don't know why. It was a family custom.

LRH: Hm-hm. Now you felt funny about getting it from grandfather?

PC: Yes. Uncomfortable. Why, I don `t know.

LRH: Hm-hm. And how did you feel at the time he died?

PC: (pause) There again I `m occlud ed, completely.

LRH: Well, what kind of an old looking gentleman was he?

PC: Oh, I can see him all right. He was short, very neat, always very well dressed. No
matter what he had on, even in his fishing coat, he was immaculate.

LRH: Okay. He was always immaculate, huh?

PC: Quiet, always kind, very fine looking.

LRH: Were you his girl?

PC: Yes, I think I was his favorite grandchild. I was the eldest.

LRH: Hm-hm. What do you see? (pause) Shut your eyes. Let's contact a moment when he's
talking to you. What's he saying to you?

PC: (pause) I can hear him talking to my grandmother.

LRH: Okay. What's he saying to your grandmother?

PC: Telling her she's not feeding me enough, she'should give me more food. He's taking
some chicken off of his plate and putting it on mine.

LRH: And what's he saying?

PC: That s all you re giving her? That isn't enough for her. And then he's putting some
chicken on my plate and she's getting angry. She's saying, What are you doing that
for? She doesn't need it, she's got enough. And he's saying, No, she hasn't got
enough. Here, Pearl, here, have some more chicken. (laughs) That scene I get very
clearly.

LRH: Okay. Now let's taste this chicken.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay, how does it taste?

PC: Delicious.

LRH: Can you taste it now?



PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: How does it smell?

PC: Good.

LRH: What is your emotional reaction here as you get this chicken from him?

PC: I'm enjoying it.

LRH: What kind of clothes has he got on?

PC: (pause; sigh) Can't get it.

LRH: Well, let's take a look at him. He's sitting right there at the table. What's your
grandmother wearing?

PC: Can't see either of them.

LRH: All right. What's the table like?

PC: (pause) I'm not getting it.

LRH: Okay. Now how does this chicken taste that you get? What does he say to her?

PC: Thats not enough for her, you don't giue her enough to eat.

LRH: Hm-hm. What language does he say it in?

PC: English.

LRH: Good. And what does your grandmother say?

PC: Don t be like that, she's got plenty.

LRH: Run over it again.

PC: Don t be like that, she's got plenty.

LRH: Okay. Now pick up a moment when you feel particularly proud of yourself in the
vicinity of your grandfather, particularly proud of yourself in the vicinity of your
grandfather. (pause) Particularly proud of yourself in the vicinity of your grandfather.
You've just done something that really should be praised. (pause) Now when I count
from one to five, an incident will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five
(snap!). (short pause) Come on, some sort of an incident flashes into your mind here,
some sort of an incident flashes into your mind. Grandpa proud of you. How would he
say it if he was proud of you? (pause) The phrase he would use will flash into your
mind, there. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: Oh, this is miserable. (sigh)

LRH: Come on, what would he say to you? (pause) Come on. What would he say to you?
Would he say, That's a good girl? What was his pet name for you?

PC: Pearl.



LRH: All right. Let's pick it up. Let's pick up the moment he's saying your name to you in a
very complimentary fashion. Pearl. (pause) Pick up his voice.

PC: (pleased voice tone) I can hear him, he could never say coat, he always said coit.
(laughs) I can see him admiring a navy blue chinchilla coat I have, a new coat. And he's
looking at it, and saying, That's a very nice `coit'you'ue got there.

LRH: Yah.

PC: I can hear him, I can see him looking at it and touching it and fuzzing it up.

LRH: That's fine. How does the coat feel on your shoulders?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Come on. Throw it on your shoulders. And he's feeling the coat, and what's he saying
now?

PC: That s a very nice coit you re wearing. (laughs)

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can get that jacket hanging around your shoulders.

PC: (pause) I guess I'm exterior right here.

LRH: Are you seeing yourself exterior?

PC: I don't see myself. I see the coat on someone.

LRH: Oh, yah?

PC: The face isn't clear.

LRH: Hm-hm. Let's go over this again. What does he say there?

PC: That s a very nice coit you're wearing. The coat has just changed. It is now a tan one. I
don't even remember what they used to call them but I can feel it. It's like fur. I can see
the buttons on it, I know what they're like.

LRH: Uh-huh. Is the coat on you?

PC: It has no button holes, it's loose.

LRH: All right. Let's feel this coat; and what's he saying?

PC: There again, I see the coat and nothing else.

LRH: Hm-hm. (very calm voice) Well, it's all right. Let's just take a look at the coat. Let's
just take a look at the coat. Now what's he saying again? Let's go over it again.

PC: That's a nice `coat' you're wearing.

LRH: Hm-hm. Let's go over it again.

PC: That's a nice coit you're wearing.

LRH: Where's he standing when he says that? (pause) Where's he standing?

PC: I can't see him. I don't know where he's standing.



LRH: Well, aw heck, he must be someplace. He's not in Timbuktu. Now where is he
standing there in relationship to this? (pause) By context it says you're wearing the
coat. Well, let's just pretend we've got the coat on there. Now what is he saying?

PC: It's a Very nice `coit' you're wearing.

LRH: Now let's take a look at him while he's saying this. Now let's go over the lines again
and let's see where he's standing there as he says these lines. Pick up the sonic on this.

PC: (pause) I can't.

LRH: Come on, what does he say? Just repeat it. Repeat it as he says it there.

PC: That's a nice coit you're wearing.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: That's a nice coit you're wearing. (exhales)

LRH: Where is he standing in relationship to you? What kind of looking face does he have?
Kindly?

PC: No. High cheekbones. A little reddish moustache. Faded blue eyes.

LRH: And what is he saying?

PC: And he's bald on top and he just has hair on the sides.

LRH: And what's he saying?

PC: I see him. Very well.

LRH: All right. What's he saying?

PC: You know what else I can see? I can see his masonic pin in his buttonhole.

LRH: Good.

PC: (laughs) It's coming, but it's coming slowly.

LRH: All right. Now what's he saying there? (pause) Coit. Now what's he saying there?

PC: (chuckles) That's a nice looking `coit' you're wearing.

LRH: Hm-hm. Does his face light up as he says it there?

PC: Yeah, he says it with animation.

LRH: Hm. How does he look when he's animated like that?

PC: His eyes twinkle.

LRH: Okay. Let's take a look at him there. What's he saying to you? What's he doing with
the coat? Is he touching it?

PC: Yah, he's feeling it.



LRH: Aha. And what's he saying?

PC: That's a nice coit you're wearing.

LRH: How does he look when he's touching it? (pause) All right. Where is the coat? Have
you got the coat on?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. And which side of you is he standing on when he says this?

PC: Standing in front of me.

LRH: Okay. And how does his height compare to yours?

PC: He was just a short man.

LRH: Shorter than you?

PC: No, but it's not an overwhelming comparison. (pause)

LRH: Okay. And what is he saying as he stands there?

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing, Pearl.

LRH: How does he look when he says this? Let's pick up the sonic on it as he says it. Let's
take a look at him and pick up the sonic on it as he says it. (pause) Contact the sonic on
it, honey. Right there at the time it happens. This is before 19-what?

PC: Oh, I must have been about 8 years old.

LRH: All right. And how does he look?

PC: I come up to his waist. I don't think I'm really there.

LRH: All right. How does he look, honey?

PC: I come up to about his waist.

LRH: All right. How does his face look from this angle?

PC: I don't really see it.

LRH: All right. How does his face look from this angle? Let's go back over it again. Nice
looking coat you're wearing.

PC: I'm not really in it. I really don't have any big deal on this.

LRH: All right. Let's take a look at him now. What is he saying? Just repeat the line he is
saying there.

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing.

LRH: Okay. Let's take a look at him. Now what is he saying again? How tall is he while he's
saying that?

PC: I don't really see him.



LRH: Well, let's go over it again. What's he saying?

PC: Nice looking coit youre wearing. (sigh, sob)

LRH: All right. Let's go over it again. Now, how does he look when he is saying this?

PC: Nice looking man.

LRH: What's he saying?

PC: It's a nice looking `coit'you're wearing.

LRH: Take a look at him.

PC: (tearfully) I can't.

LRH: Oh, sure. You can take a look at the old man. He's a nice fellow, you liked him. He
loves you very much. (PC sighs) You can certainly look at him. Now, let's take a look
at him as you're standing there. Where has he got his hands?

PC: I can see his hands.

LRH: Okay. Now what's he saying?

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing. He's got his left hand on his left knee and
he's sitting down.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And he's feeling the coat with his right hand. And now I can see his hands, he's got red
hair on his hands and he's got short fingers.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And long, clean finger nails

LRH: What's your emotion as you look at him, pleasurable?

PC: Well, I like him.

LRH: Uh-huh? All right. Let's take a look at him again. Now what's he saying?

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing. (pause)

LRH: Is he a nice guy?

PC: Yes. It's a funny thing, the scene shifts between my home and my father's store. I
don't know where we are. I'm in both places, I keep shifting back and forth.

LRH: All right. Let's go to the one there and let's go over it again. (PC sighs) Now what's he
saying? He's sitting down. And what is he saying to you?

PC: That's a nice looking coit you ue got there.

LRH: You can get a sonic on his voice now. Let's go over it again and take a look at him.

PC: Can't get the sonic. (pause) I don't hear his voice. I know the words but I don't hear
him saying them.



LRH: All right. Just take a look at him. Now what's he saying?

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: That's a nice looking coit you're wearing. (sigh)

LRH: How does he look there?

PC: Ha. I'm not seeing the rest of him clearly.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I don't see him.

LRH: How high do you come in relationship to him? How does he look when he's dead?

PC: Huh?

LRH: How does he look when he's dead?

PC: Very sepulchral. (laughs)

LRH: How does he look when he's dead?

PC: Very pale and small.

LRH: Very pale and small. What kind of coffin

is it? (pause) What kind of a coffin is it? White satin?

PC: White satin inside.

LRH: All right. Have they fixed him up so he looks well?

PC: No.

LRH: Well, how have they fixed him up?

PC: I think they did a hurry-up job.

LRH: Why?

PC: I know that they did from what I heard, I think they fixed him up in the house. People
were saying things like, Don't go into the other room. Think the undertakers did all
their work in there and it's pretty messy. Somebody else was saying that they saw
somebody emptying a pail of blood into the toilet. Heard some very nice stories.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: He just looks very pale and small and still and he's covered in white, white satin I
think.

LRH: Hm-hm. How did he die?

PC: (yawn)



LRH: How did he die?

PC: Cerebral hemorrhage.

LRH: Cerebral hemorrhage, huh? Was it suddenly, at night? Or....

PC: He was dying for several days.

LRH: Several days.

PC: Yes, with a cerebral hemorrhage.

LRH: Of course he wanted to see you.

PC: Well, before he died, I remember-I remember (I'm not supposed to use that word)-
um....

LRH: Before he died, come on. He wanted to see you, didn't he?

PC: I had a very pleasant hour or so with him. Sitting on the bed and listening to him tell me
about his youth, before he met my grandmother. And I was very intrigued by this
story. He really loved another girl. But he was in the Russian army and he felt he didn't
have any right to ask her to wait for him. He went off to war and when he came back
she had married someone else. He was recounting all his youth and for some reason he
had to tell it to me or he had to tell it to someone. And he was very animated and it was
one of the few really intimate talks we had ever had.

LRH: Hm-hm. What's he saying?

PC: (yawns)

LRH: What's he saying?

PC: You know, I'm remembering all this here.

LRH: That's okay. As you will. What's he saying? How does he look-he's so very
animated.

PC: He's got on a pair of white pajamas with nary blue stripes.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: He still looks immaculate.

LRH: Hm-hm. And what's he saying about the army?

PC: (yawns)

LRH: What's he saying about the army?

PC: I don't get his exact words.

LRH: Well, give me the approximation. (pause) Give me an approximation of his words. You
just got through doing something.

PC: Huf! (exhales) I'm trying to get the words but I can't. I can't pick up his words. The
data is somewhere, but I can't pick up his words.



LRH: Okay. Well, just give me a concept of what he's saying.

PC: (burp) Pardon me, but before he married my grandmother, he was in lose with a very
sweet girl and he wanted to marry her.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But he had to go off to war and he didn't feel he had a right to ask her to wait for him,
because he didn't know if he'd ever come back.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And then, much to his great dismay when he did return, he was quite brokenhearted to
find That'she had already married someone else. And I got the impression that my
grandmother was second fiddle. She was second best. Perhaps he was trying to tell me
indirectly that he was never happy with her because he felt that he had always missed
something, he really should have married the other girl. That was the feeling that I
picked up from the conversation.

LRH: Does he tell you he likes you?

PC: (pause) I d on't hear him.

LRH: Does he say he likes you?

PC: (pause; tearfully) He said all those things, but I don't know. I mean--.

LRH: Let's see if we can cover that again now. What does he say-he likes you? (pause)
How would he say, I like you, Pearl?

PC: Thats my Pearl, that's my oldest grandchild, whenever he would introduce me to his
friends, great pinochle players. His friends would be over at the house and he'd say,
Come, Pearl. This is my oldest grandchild. Very proud.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And he'd probably say to me, That's my Pearl, my old est grand child . You `re my
oldest grandchild. My first grandchild. That was his way of endearing me. The only
way I recall.

LRH: Okay. Now let's recall what he's saying there on the bed. (pause) You're my oldest
grandchild. That's my Pearl. Go on over that. That's my Pearl. As he's lying there on
the bed. Go on over it.

PC: That's my Pearl. That `s my Pearl. That's my Pearl.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That's my Pearl.

LRH: Take a look at him.

PC: That's my Pearl.

LRH: Take a look at him and go over it again.

PC: That's my Pearl. (small burp) Oh, d ear.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That's my Pearl.

LRH: Just pick up the moment he's burping you there.

PC: (pause) That's my Pearl.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: (belches) Pardon me.

LRH: That's all right. Let's pick up the moment he's burping you.

PC: (laughs)

LRH: All right. Let's pick up the moment the old man's burping you. What does he say when
you burp?

PC: That's my Pearl.

LRH: All right. Let's get a concept there. Where are you in relationship to him when he said
this?

PC: I can't uisualize anything. I don't know how anybody would look when they're
burping the baby.

LRH: Okay. How does it feel there when you're over his shoulder? What is he doing to you?
How do you feel over his shoulder there?

PC: That's precisely the point. I can't get into this so that I know. I don't pick up any of
these perceptics. (gap in recording)

LRH: What does he say again now? Go over that again. What is he saying?

PC: Mrs. Silverman has now been seen by more doctors and psychiatrists, and some new
doctor from New Jersey.

LRH: Continue.

PC: He's smiling when he says this. He's all embarrassed. (burp) She'saw a doctor
yesterday. And she hasn't had any stool since the visit.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And Dr. Johnson is nodding his head very professionally, he's saying, Well, that's
fine. I'm glad to hear it. That's fine. And they very quickly go on to the next thing.

LRH: Okay. Who is the first doctor that challenges the fact that there's something wrong with
your treatment?

PC: Oh, I don't know if this is the first one, but this is another one that comes to mind
immediately, a student who had stopped by my bed several times because he noticed an
Astounding Science Fiction magazine on my bed tray. He says, Do you read this? I
read it all the time, it's wonderful, etc. And after Bob had seen me, I called him over
and I said, Gee, I'm glad to see you. I was hoping you'd drop in, how are you? Got
something to tell you. Read this. It was a teaser in the April issue. Read this article



about Dianetics. And he reads it and says, Well? Well, I had two hours of Dianetic
therapy yesterday, and I haven't had any diarrhea since. What do you think of that?
And he is saying, Oh, come now, you . . .

LRH: That's right. Go over that again.

PC: Oh, come now

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And he was going, Well. Oh, come now, this is very good fictional reading. This is
very good fiction but you don't want to take any of it seriously.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And I'm saying. But this is not fiction, this is a fact article. And I'm saying. How do
you account for the fact that my diarrhea stopped ? And he's saying. Look, you're the
kind of a kid who needs a lot of attention, and any guy who would spend two hours
with you would stop your diarrhea. Anybody who would give you a lot of their time
would stop your diarrhea.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And I'm saying, Well, I still say that you should investigate it further. And he's
saying, Well, I agree with you, I'll follow it up. I'm giving him a pep talk about
reading the article. And he's taking out his medical notebook and he's making a note of
the name of the article, the author and the date of the issue.

LRH: All right. Now come up to present time, Pearl.

PC: Okay.

Let's separate the two subjects now. What we want to run out of your case very specifically is
this: You're lying there sick, isn't that right, a lot of people came by and they saw you.
When you told them about where you thought you had been and so forth, did some of those
people say that it was probably your imagination, or delusion?

Suggestion.

Oh, they thought it was suggestion? And a delusion? Did anybody say it was imaginary or a
delusion?

The lady in the next bed said, I can't believe it.

She said, I can't believe it. Okay. There's a good enough trigger. Now that's a female voice.
But the point is, did any one of these psychiatrists say it was a delusion on your part that you
had recall or whether Dianetics would work?

I don't think anybody believed in Dianetics at the time. Nobody believed in it. But did anybody
make the flat statement? That is the flat statement we are looking for. It does not have to be
there.

Yes, I think one was. I don't think he said delusion, but he said, It sounds like a highly
suggestive type of therapy to me.

Yeah, well it would to Collins. He is in very bad shape himself. So, in other words he bats you
down, doesn't he, a little bit?



Oh, sure.

Because there was sag in the case.

Yes, I know. The next time Bob saw me, it took him about an hour and a half to get me
running again.

All right. Now this stuff is said to you in the interim?

Oh, sure.

All right. And you have just been up before the psychoanalysts in New York, right?

Uh-huh.

And you've had a remission up to that point and all of a sudden it goes blank.

Oh no, do you know when this thing started ?

When?

When I went out to see George about six weeks ago; before he went to Washington.

Oh?

I started this business, it has sure gotten very serious. I went down to George because the
diarrhea was starting again and I wanted him to stop it immediately.

Okay. What happened immediately before you went down there to George? I don't know.

Yes, you do, you know.

I could find out. I know where to check it.

All right.

I've got a desk diary with all my activities in it.

And you've got a better desk diary right there in your head. Now is this salesmanship that you
have been doing to general public on the subject of Dianetics? How good a salesman are you?

Very convincing.

Okay.

I'm a walking ad. Because they all know how sick I was, none of them expected me to live.

All right, then the only thing we have to find is a little bit of this material, particularly what
happened just before you went down to George. The somatic strip can find that incident. What
happened just before you went to George?

Well, I know.

What?

I went to my grandmother's unveiling the year after she died. She died last year.

Okay. Now you've got it there.



LRH: [to auditor taking over session] Here is a restimulator. Grandma's death was not picked
up in this case. This was a serious error in Dianetics, a very serious error, because there is an
emotional charge on Grandmother's death and I was taking Grandfather here in the early part of
the case figuring it would not be quite as serious. There may not be a terrific emotional charge
on Grandfather's death. I have a tendency to believe there is.

LRH: [to PC] I believe these two emotional charges are sufficient to dislocate the emotional
synchronisation as you're running these things. It has a tendency to valence off these shut-offs.
Now you notice you're getting sonic on people but not on Grandpa. And not on Mama when
Grandpa's around. I don't know whether you get sonic on Mama.

With difficulty. I get my father the best.

LRH: [to auditor] With difficulty.

Okay, there's difficulty with the sonic on Mama. This means there has not been a sufficient
emotional discharge on Mama's death. There is a technique of working into the thing gradually.
One doesn't have to slug hard to get into a case. He doesn't have to hammer a person to pieces
because of it. But the first thing I would do on it would be to relieve the visit to Grandmother's
unveiling. I would go in and try to pick that up. Then I would pick up that early moment there
that goes across the line that we were running, where somebody says, She's dead, I can't
believe it. Grandpa, Grandma, and so on. There may be a series of childhood illnesses.

[PC] Where somebody says I'm dead ?

Hm-hm. Look, somebody screaming on the phone made you terrified. You were burping at the
time. We just went over it a moment ago. So you weren't feeling too well when that news came
through the wire.

Oh, I see. You mean the time when I wasn't feeling well ?

I don't have to evaluate your case for you. I'm just telling him what to look for.

Oh, I understand.

All right. That early incident there is an engramic lock on some even earlier incident. But it's a
severely aberrative lock just the same. So I'm having trouble contacting it. All right. It may
produce a new sequence, a new change in words. And it did. This thing is locked up evidently
on Grandma's and Grandpa's deaths. There is something thrown out of gear there. Now if we
tackle Grandma the same way I was tackling Grandpa, and if we work these things out
gradually, we are going to get a release off Grandma, Grandpa and Mama. I'm sure that the
charge is not off Mama, because we are not getting sonic on her.

[Auditor] Do you still want to take up George first?

Yes. Sure. Take up that first and then knock along the line on that. Take off the last
restimulator. [PC] I understand.

And this lady in the next bed says, I can't believe it. She might have picked that up too while
she was in the hospital.

[Auditor] Yes.

That's a real nice key-in. Now I've got the thing pretty well figured out.

[PC] Hm-hm. I'm glad, Ron.



Why, sure.

That makes me feel good, you know.

I was quite shocked the other day when I found out that there was affect on probably three
deaths that can be released. Release that, and the rest of it can be removed.

It's not that I'm mad, I can become well. I've got something to help me now. Why should I go
on suffering and being miserable? It isn't necessary. Before when I was sick there was nothing
I could do. I was really helpless. I could run to the psychiatrist, but there was no release there.
I know that I've got something here.

Good, very good.

LRH: [to auditor] Technically speaking, an error has been made right at the beginning of the
case. The emotional pain engrams were not picked up.

This should be done with every severe psychosomatic illness and, although they are not in the
same classification ordinarily, with every psychosis or severe neurosis. Just pick up the
emotional charge that is lying on real bad spots in the case.

That is vital. Ellen Jennings in Washington got well because I slugged out her husband's death.
Then she stabilized and began to pick up incidents earlier, and life started to become clearer.

[The session is turned over to the new auditor.]

Session, 8 June 1950

LRH: Now let's take up the incident where your grandfather's burping you. Letb see if we
can't take a close look at him. (long pause) Come on, what does he say when he burps
you? That's my Pearl. Go over that line. While he's burping you. The somatic strip can
find this. Roll the line. That's my Pearl.

PC: That's my Pearl. That's my Pearl. He's burping me all right. Something's happening.

LRH: All right. That's my Pearl.

PC: That's my Pearl. And that's all I'm getting.

LRH: That's my Pearl. What tone is it in? That's my Pearl? Or is it That's my Pearl? Which is
it? When he burped you? Come on, you can pick one or the other.

PC: (pause) That's my Pearl.

LRH: Hm-hm. How does he burp you? How many times does he pat?

PC: About eight.

LRH: Now let's pick up the first pat, next pat, next pat, next pat, next pat, next pat, next
pat....

PC: (burp, starts to laugh)

LRH: There, we got the burp now. What does he say now?

PC: (laughs)



LRH: Aw, what does he say now? What does he say?

PC: Thats my Pearl.

LRH: Okay. Now let's go back through this burp sequence again. (PC gasps) Go through
this burp sequence again. First pat, next pat, and pick them up, next one, right straight
on through. Then what happens? Next pat, next pat, next pat, the next one, next one,
next one . . .

PC: (laughs) It's there, but it's not coming, Ron.

LRH: I.. next one, what does he say now?

PC: Thats my Pearl.

LRH: And then what does he do with you? (pause) Does he ever say you like to be held?

PC: (whining tone) I can't hear anything, Ron.

LRH: Did he say you like to be held? She likes me to hold her. She likes me to hold her. Is
that it? She likes to be held. She likes to be held? What's the line, honey?

PC: {I. love to hold her.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I lose to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: I love to hold her. (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her. (laughs a little)

LRH: Contact the moment there. How does the old man look while hey holding you there? I
love to hold her. Go on, repeat his lines.

PC: I love to hold her. I love to hold her.

LRH: Repeat his lines.

PC: (belches) Pardon me. Thought we were past that part.

LRH: All right.

PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Repeat his line.

PC: I love to hold her. I love to hold her.

LRH: Next line. I love to hold her. Next line after it. (pause) I love to hold her.

PC: I love to hold her. I love to hold her. I love to hold her. I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I love to hold her. I love to hold her.

LRH: All right. Letb get to the time you get your diarrhea when you're a little baby. Little
baby. Diarrhea. What is the old man saying? I'll hold her. I love to hold her. I'll hold
her. What does the old man say? Hold her there. What does he say? Come on, what
does he say? When I count from one to five you'll tell me what the words are. One-
two-threefour-five. Whatb he saying? (snaps) The moment you had diarrhea. (three
snaps) Diarrhea. The old many holding you. The old many holding you. Whatb he
saying?

PC: Uh-uh, you take her. (snicker)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You take her.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Uh-uh, you take her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Uh-uh, you take her.

LRH: What else is said? (pause) What else is said? (pause) What else is said?

PC: Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well. That's my mother.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm actually getting sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (inhales) Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well.

LRH: What does your grandfather say?

PC: (pause; belch)

LRH: What does your grandfather say? (pause) What does Grandfather say? (pause) Does he
say, Poor little thing, she isn't feeling well? What does he say? Does he say, Don't let
anything happen to my grandchild?

PC: What's wrong with her?

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: What's wrong with her?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What's wrong with her?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What's wrong with her?

LRH: What does your mother say?

PC: Her stomach is upset.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Her stomach is upset.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (murmurs) Her stomach is upset.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (very faintly) Her stomach is upset.

LRH: What does your grandfather say?

PC: She isn't eating a thing. That's my mother.

LRH: What does she'say?



PC: My mother's saying, She isn't eating a thing.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: She isn't eating a thing.

LRH: What does your grandfather say? (long pause; PC: breathing audibly) What's he
saying? (pause) Contact what hey saying.

PC: My mother's saying, I'm really worried.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm really worried.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm really worried.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm really worried.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm really worried.

LRH: Contact the moment she's saying that. Go over it again.

PC: I'm really worried.

LRH: What does he say?

PC: You'd better do something about it right away.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: You'd better do something about it right away.

LRH: Whob saying that?

PC: My grandfather.

LRH: Okay. Lets roll it again.

PC: You'd better do something about it right away.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Why don't you take her to the doctor? Why don't you call the doctor?

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Why don't you call the doctor?

LRH: Is he concemed?



PC: Yes.

LRH: Then what does your mother say?

PC: (pause; belch)

LRH: What does your mother say? (pause)

PC: (grunts)

LRH: What does your mother say? (pause) When I count to five, it will flash into your mind.
One-two-three-four-five.

PC: Nothing.

LRH: I'll count to five again. Now it really will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-
five.

PC: I tried to get her words but I can't. Couldn't contact her.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I tried to get her once already and I couldn't contact her. Oh, that's delightful, honestly.
(sounds disgusted)

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: I've got a million of them. I tried to get her once already and I couldn't contact her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I tried to get her once already but I couldn't contact her.

LRH: Next line. (pause; PC breathes deeply) You can contact it now. Next line.

PC: (pause) I'll try again.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll try again.

LRH: All right.

PC: I'll try again.

LRH: Continue. Next line. (pause) Next line. (pause) Next line.

PC: You'd better get her as soon as possible.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You'd better get her as soon as possible.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You better get her as soon as possible.

LRH: Next line.



PC: Shouldn t let this go on.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You shouldn't let this go on.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You shouldn't let this go on.

LRH: Next line.

PC: It could be serious

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Could be serious.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It could be serious

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It could be serious

LRH: Next line.

PC: She's so tiny

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Go over that again, dear. You've said it. Go over it again, honey.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Okay, honey. Go over it again.

PC: (laughs slightly) She's so tiny (laughs a little) and helpless.

LRH: Okay. Roll it again.

PC: Oh, I've got a million of them. They fixed me up fine.

LRH: Have you contacted this phrase before?

PC: No.

LRH: Go over that line again, honey.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.



LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause)She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless. (belch)

LRH: Thereb more to it. Go over it again.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (belch, sigh, mutter)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's so tiny and helpless.

LRH: Is there more to that line? She's so tiny and helpless. Give me the rest of it.

PC: She's such a delicate thing it frightens me.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Anything could happen to her.

LRH: Oh, dear. (chuckles) Next line.

PC: (sigh; pause)

LRH: Next line.

PC: I wouldn't want anything to happen to her.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I wouldn't want anything to happen to her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I wouldn't want anything to happen to her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I wouldn't want anything to happen to her.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause) It's taking all the good out of her.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: (That isn't all it's taking out of her.) It's taking all the good out of her.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that again.



PC: It's taking all the good out of her. Poor little thing, it's taking all the good out of her.

LRH: Okay. Next line.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Next line.

PC: Poor little thing, it's taking all the good out of her.

LRH: Next line.

PC: You can tell there's something wrong, she's so irritable, she's not herself. Oh! If I
could only get my hands on them.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: She's not herself. You can tell she's not herself.

LRH: Go over that line again.

PC: Oh, I hate euery one of them for what they did to me. (laughs)

LRH: Okay. Go over that line again. Irritable.

PC: She's so irritable, you can see she's not herself.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Those are beautiful words. You can see she's not herself

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You can see she's not herself. She's so irritable.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Poor little thing, she's so irritable. You can see she's not herself. It's taking all the
good out of her.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Continue. Next line. (pause) When I count to five, it will flash into your mind. One-
two-three-four-five. (pause; PC: sighs) One-two-three-four-five. Next line. Next
consecutive line. One-two-three-four-five.

PC: Poor little thing, she's a mess.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Poor little thing, she's a mess. I've got the concept here very clearly.

LRH: All right. We can erase it.

PC: Her little bottom is raw



LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Um. That's nice.

LRH: Okay.

PC: They fixed me fine.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (long pause) You have to put something on it right away.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Can't get the next word.

LRH: Yes, you can get the next word. You're so helpless. He said so. Lets get the next word.

PC: (pause) It's a blank.

LRH: All right. When I count to five, the next phrase will flash into your mind. One - two-
three-four-five.

PC: Sure, that ought to make you feel better.

LRH: Yes, sure. Bottom is raw, that makes you feel better. Let's go over that again.

PC: There, that al make you feel better.

LRH: Okay.

PC: You won't have to wait much longer. We'll get you fixed up. Oh, did they fix me up!

LRH: All right. Go over that line.

PC: You won't have to wait much longer, we'll get you fixed up.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Mother will take care of you don't worry.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. (pause) Mother will take care of you, don't worry. Now
this is one of these high survival things. Oh, thatb a beauty!

PC: And how!

LRH: Well, let's find out what they say so we can just have a good time with it. All right.
Let's roll it. What are they saying there? (pause) Next phrase. One-two-three-four-
five.(pause) Next phrase. One - two- three - four- five .

PC: (mutters)

LRH: What is it?

PC: I'm going to put you down here, maybe you'll go to sleep.

LRH: Run over this again.



PC: I'm going to put you down here and maybe you'll go to sleep.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over this again.

PC: I'm going to put you down here and maybe you'll go to sleep.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Maybe you it be able to sleep.

LRH: Next line. (pause) I'm going to put you down here. Maybe you'll be able to sleep.
Okay. Next line. (pause) You're doing good. Keep rolling.

PC: She's walking away and she is saying, I really am worried.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I really am worried. I'll have to take her temperature.

LRH: She'd going to take it, huh? Go over it again.

PC: I really am worried. I think she has a temperature too.

LRH: Go over that again, dear.

PC: I really am worried. (small pause) I think she has a temperature too.

LRH: Go over that again, dear.

PC: (belch)

LRH: What's she'saying?

PC: I really am worried. I think she has a temperature. She feels as if she has a temperature
too.

LRH: Aha, that's fine. Go over it again.

PC: I really am worried. She feels as if she has a temperature too.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I really am worried. She feels as if she has a temperature too.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: I really am worried. She feels--.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: I really am worried. She feels as if she has a temperature too.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Oh, there's more to being a mother than meets the eye.

LRH: Hm-hm. Go on. Go over that again.



PC: There's more to being a mother than meets the eye.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Damn bunch of aberrees.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (pause; deep breaths)

LRH: Next line.

PC: Stuck again.

LRH: One-two-three-four-five. We got it. That bit about being helpless. Right. Go to the next
line. One-two-three-four-five. You're doing good. You're doing fine. Come on. One-
two-three-four-five.

PC: That seems to be the end.

LRH: That's the end? Go over that line.

PC: That's the end.

LRH: Once again.

PC: That's the end.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That's the end.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (whispers) That's the end.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Thats the end.. (belch)

LRH: Hm-hm. That's the end.

PC: That's the end.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Thats the end.

LRH: Next line. That's the end.

PC: I think I must be vomiting.

LRH: Okay. That's the end.

PC: She's throwing up her hands in despair, Oh, this is the end.

LRH: Go on. That's the end.



PC: Thats the end.

LRH: Anybody say, It's all over? (pause) All right. Let's roll that line.

PC: It's all over. It's all over. She's all right. Don't worry.

LRH: Go on over it again, dear.

PC: She's all right (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's all right. It's all over. It's just a little messy, that's all.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's quite ruffled by now.

LRH: What's she'saying?

PC: Boy, it's one thing right after another.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's one thing right after another.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: One thing right after another.

LRH: Next line.

PC: One thing right after another.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I'm trying to get the next words.

LRH: You can contact it. One-two-three-four-five. (long pause) One-two-three-four-five.

PC: She's really sick

LRH: Go on over it again, dear.

PC: She's really sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm frightened.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) Oh, when is that doctor coming?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Why doesn't that doctor get here? (pause)



LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; belch)

LRH: What's the line with it?

PC: These feelings are not real.

LRH: She's really sick. Go over that again.

PC: She's really sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She's really sick

LRH: Next line.

PC: Why doesn't that doctor get here?

LRH: You know what it is. Go over it now. She'd really sick.

PC: Oh, you poor little thing, you don't feel well, doyou?

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Poor little thing, you don't feel well, do you?

LRH: Whom saying this?

PC: Mother.

LRH: Whereb your grandfather in this?

PC: I don't know what happened to the old boy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know, I have the feeling that it's the end.

LRH: That's the end of what?

PC: That people are just saying this to me.

LRH: Well, that's okay. I just wondered if he was standing by.

[gap in recording]

LRH: Let's go to the moment of death of Grandma. Let's go right straight back to it. Straight
back to the moment of death of Grandma. The moment she died. The first moment you
hear the news. The first moment you hear the news. Somatic strip's right there. Now
tell me the first words you get out of it. The first words you get.

PC: I can hear Arnold yelling at me. I'm upstairs on the fourth floor. He doesn't even come
up. He's just screaming at me.

LRH: What's he saying?



PC: Theres a phone call.I'm asking for some knitting instructions and I just ignore the fact
completely. Somebody's yelling up the stairs that's really angry, It's a long distance
phone call. I'm running down the stairs now.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And I'm saying, What's the matter? What's all this fuss anyway?

LRH: Continue.

PC: He's saying, It's long distance, it's Debbie. And then I naturally know what it is.

LRH: Get yourself racing down those stairs. Are you short of breath?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now lets get to the moment you get to the phone.

PC: I got to the phone. I'm at the phone in the hall.

LRH: How does that phone feel against your ear? Whose voice is it?

PC: It's my cousin Debbie.

LRH: What are her first words?

PC: And I'm looking out of the window as she's talking to me. (belch)

LRH: Continue. What are her first words?

PC: Hello, hello Debbie? What's the matter? And she's saying, Bobbie died.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And I say, That's funny, I can't believe it. I was expecting it, and yet I just can't
believe it.

LRH: What does she'say again?

PC: I'm saying, What's the matter? Bobbie died. Bobbie died? She's saying it in a sort of
an impatient voice because she's probably been waiting there on the phone for quite
some time. I can hear the inflection in her voice.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again now. Let's come downstairs. Feel your breathlessness as
you come downstairs. Feel your breathlessness.

PC: For heaven's sakes, what's the matter? I'm annoyed at Arnold because he has
interrupted my knitting instructions.

LRH: Okay. Now lets run forward.

PC: It's Debbie. It's a long distance call. Where the hell were you? It's Debbie. Oh, just a
minute now. Debbie-what's the matter? I know what's the matter but I don't want to
accept it and I say to him, What's the matter? And he says, Here she is, you talk to her.

LRH: Here she is, you talk to her. Continue.



PC: Hello, Debbie, what's the matter? Bobbie died. Bobbie died ?

LRH: Continue.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Go on, honey. Bobbie died.

PC: (pause) And I'm saying, Oh, I can't believe it. Isn't that funny, I can't believe it. I was
expecting it and yet I don't know, I just had a feeling That'she'd go on living forever.

LRH: Continue. What's said then?

PC: Um. That Benzedrine is working, I feel jumpy. I feel as though my heart is beating
faster.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: I can feel it beating. I'm very conscious of it. (deep breath)

LRH: All right. Let's go straight into the prenatal area now where we get, I can't believe she's
dead. Go over this line, She's dead, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Prenatal.

PC: She's dead.

LRH: She's dead. I can't believe it.

PC: She's dead. I can't believe it.

LRH: She'd dead. I can't believe it.

PC: She's dead. I can't believe it.

LRH: Go over it again. She's dead. I can't believe it.

PC: Oh, she's dead.

LRH: I can't believe shed dead. Go over it.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Let's contact it. I can't believe shed dead.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Prenatal. Let's contact it.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Prenatal. Let's contact it.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Let's contact it. I can't believe she's dead.



PC: These are my own words in reference to my mother. I can't believe she's dead. She'll
never be dead to me.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: She'll never be dead to me. She'll always be alive. She'll never be dead to. me.

LRH: She'll always be alive, she'll never be dead to me.

PC: She'll always be alive. I didn't get the emotional charge of this thing. I don't think I
ever really grieved for my mother, if I didn't believe she was dead in the first place.

LRH: All right. Let's contact this in the basic area.

PC: I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Pick up the sonic on Mama. I can't believe shed dead. She'll always be alive. She'll
always be alive for me.

PC: She will always be alive for me. She'll never be dead. She'll always be alive to me.
(belch)

LRH: Go on, honey. Contact it in the basic area. She'll always be alive to me, I can't believe
it. You know what it is.

PC: She'll always be alive to me. I can't believe it. She'll never be dead to me.

LRH: Contact it. She'll never be dead to me.

PC: She'll never be dead to me.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: She'll never be dead to me.

LRH: I can't believe it.

PC: I can't believe it. She'll always be alive to me, she'll always be alive, she'll never be
dead to me, I can't believe she's dead.

LRH: Contact it, honey.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't believe she's dead, she'll never be dead to me.

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: I can't believe she's dead. She'll never be dead to me. I can't believe she's dead. She'll
never be dead to me.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: I can't believe she's dead, she'll always be alive. She'll never be dead to me. I don't
know who they're talking about. I don't hear anything, I'm just repeating the words.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it. I can't believe it.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't believe she's dead.



LRH: She'll always be alive.

PC: She'll always be alive to me.

LRH: I can't believe That'shed dead.

PC: I can't believe she's dead. She'll always be alive to me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: She'll always be alive to me. (belch)

LRH: Contact that, honey. Contact the somatic on the earliest moment that it's on in the bank.
Earliest moment in the bank. Earliest moment that you can hear Mama (PC: belches)
saying this. Earliest moment. (pause) Earliest moment.

PC: I can't believe she's I get a chill.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over it. Earliest moment in the bank.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: The phrase is coming. Earliest moment.

PC: I can't believe she's dead. She'll never be dead to me. She'll always be alive.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't believe she's dead. She'll never be dead for me. She'll always be alive.

LRH: Contact it and go over it again. I can't believe it.

PC: I can't believe it.

LRH: I can't believe it.

PC: I can't believe it.

LRH: Contact it with this chill.

PC: I can't believe it.

LRH: Go over it again. I can't believe it.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't believe it now.

LRH: What's the next line?

PC: (belch) It isn't true.



LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: It isn't true.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: It can't be true. I won't believe her. I can't believe her. I won't believe her. It isn't true.

LRH: What are the consecutive lines here now? Let's go to the first moment of this somatic,
the first moment of this somatic. The first moment of it. The somatic strip can shift to
the first moment of it. Now give me the first phrase of this engram. First phrase of the
engram with the chill in it. I want the engram with the chill in it. The somatic strip will
shift over to give me the first phrase. When I count to five the first phrase will flash into
your mind of this engram. (PC: starts a belch) One-two-three-four-five. What is it?
One-two-three-four-five.

PC: It isn't true

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It isn't true.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't true.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't true.

LRH: Contact the sonic on it. Go over it again.

PC: (pause) It isn't true.

LRH: Contact the sonic on it.

PC: It isn't true.

LRH: Contact it. Have you got a somatic with this? It isn't true.

PC: Well, I don't feel warm like I did before. That one moment I told you about is the only
time I felt an actual shock.

LRH: Shock. Shock. Go over the shock.

PC: I'm shocked.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: What a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What a shock. I got that feeling.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: What's the beginning of this What a shock engram?

PC: I think those are the first words.

LRH: Okay. What a shock. What are the next words? What a shock.

PC: (pause) What a shock.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh no, it isn't true. I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go on over That'sequence again, with the chill somatic. What a
shock.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Now, give me a yes or no on a flash answer here. Is this chill one the first one in the
bank?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it. What a shock.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Do you want one of the first engrams in the bank or the first engram with a chill on it?

LRH: The first engram with a chill on it.

PC: Yes, hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it. Start at the beginning of it and roll it right on through.

PC: (murmurs) What a shock. (pause)

LRH: Continue. The next phrase will come right through.

PC: (pause) Nothing comes.

LRH: What?



PC: Nothing comes.

LRH: Nothing comes?

PC: Nothing comes. (pause)

LRH: All right. Lets contact it at the beginning. What a shock.

PC: I feel shocked myself, I just feel numb all over.

LRH: That's right. Feel numb all over.

PC: (laughs) I feel numb all over.

LRH: Run that line.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Get a more solid contact on this, more solid contact on this.

PC: It's a shock. What a shock.

LRH: Much more solid contact. Its a shock. What a shock. Let's roll that now.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh no, it isn't true. I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I really feel sick.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (belch, belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I've got a chill.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I think I've got a chill.



LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (groan; pause)

LRH: Continue. Next line. (pause) Go over it again now from the beginning.

PC: The damn somatic is interfering; it's not in the engram, it's just that I have a terrible
headache. I feel queer. I get these pains right up here. They come and they go all over.
The therapy is immaterial. I contact the thing, but when I can't be sure on the way I
feel, I lose the engram. (pause)

LRH: Let's get What a shock.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. (pause) What a shock. I feel sick.

PC: What a shock. I feel sick. I can't go on.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Let's contact it from What a shock.

PC: What a shock.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Next phrase. One - two- three - four-five .

PC: Shock. What a shock, I can't believe it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: When did it happen?

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's a very long one.

LRH: Continue. You're doing good. Continue.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: (murmur)



LRH: Continue. (pause) Next line. One-two-three-four-five. The next line will flash into your
mind when I count to five. One-two-three -four-five.

PC: (pause) I just got an impression of who dies.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Well, the person who died was an uncle that my mother was very fond of.

LRH: Aha.

PC: I've got his name.

LRH: Okay. What's his name?

PC: She called him Uncle Benjamin.

LRH: Go over Benjamin.

PC: Benjamin. I don't know about the time element here at all.

LRH: When did it happen? (short pause) Go over that.

PC: When did it happen?

LRH: When did it happen?

PC: When did it happen?

LRH: When did it happen?

PC: When did it happen?

LRH: When did it happen?

PC: When did it happen?

LRH: Next line. Go over the word Benjamin.

PC: Benjamin.

LRH: Benjamin.

PC: Benjamin. Benjamin. It doesn't tie up.

LRH: Hm?

PC: It doesn't tie up.

LRH: Okay. When did it happen? I feel sick.

PC: (murmurs) When did it happen? I feel sick.

LRH: Numb all over.

PC: Numb all over (murmur, small belch)



LRH: Continue. I feel sick. Go over that.

PC: I feel sick I feel sick

LRH: Might be another phrase right with it. Let's go over it again. I feel sick.

PC: I feel sick

LRH: What is the proper phrase there? (PC: belches) I feel sick. Go over it.

PC: Oh, my God, I'm sick.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: Oh, my God, I'm sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, my God, I'm sick.

LRH: Next line. Oh, my God, I'm sick. Next line. (pause) Next line. Oh, my God, I'm sick.
Its all over.

PC: It's all over.

LRH: That's the end.

PC: The end ?

LRH: I just feel numb all over.

PC: I just feel numb all over.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just feel numb all over.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Contact her voice saying it. Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Contact her voice saying that. Go over it again.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Contact her voice saying that. (pause) Contact her voice saying that. Go over it again.



PC: I feel numb all over. I feel numb all over.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I feel numb all over

LRH: Next line. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: I'm shaking like a leaf.

LRH: Go on over that.

PC: I'm shaking like a leaf. I'm shaking like a leaf.

LRH: Continue. Contact her voice now, Pearl. Contact her voice as she goes through this.
Contact her voice.

PC: (pause; murmur)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: I can't get over it. I can't get over it. I can't get over it. I can't get over it. I can't get
over it. It doesn't seem possible.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (murmur) Oh, what a shame.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. One-two three-four-five (snapl). (pause) Continue.

PC: so somebody knows it

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: There's a name in there but I can't get it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Does Harry know yet?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Does Harry know yet?

LRH: Who's Harry?

PC: He might be my father.

LRH: Lets run over it again.

PC: Does Harry know?

LRH: Continue. Next line.



PC: Oh, he al feel terrible.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Does Harry know yet? He it feel terrible.

LRH: Next line.

PC: He'll take it awfully badly.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He'll take it awfully badly.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He'll take it awfully badly.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't know if there's anything more or not. Just seem to have run out of words.

LRH: I can't say anything.

PC: I don't know what to say.

LRH: Don't know what to say. Go over it again.

PC: I just don't know what to say.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just don't know what to say.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just don't know what to say.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just don't know what to say.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Oh, sickness.

LRH: Go over it again, next line. (pause) What are your somatics with this, honey?

PC: Oh, that damn nausea. f

LRH: I'm so nauseated.

PC: I'm so nauseated, I'm sick.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I'm sick



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm just sick from this

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I'm justsick from this

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Too sick, maybe. No, I'm just sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm just sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm just sick

LRH: Next line. (pause) Next time you come back into this area will you know all about it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Come up to present time. What distance are you running this thing from?

PC: What do you mean, how far am I from the prenatal area?

LRH: Yes.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over Stay there.

PC: Stay there.

LRH: Shut your eyes. Stay there.

PC: Stay there.

LRH: I'll wait here.

PC: I'll wait here.

LRH: What's the holder? Stay there. I'll wait here.

PC: Stay there, I'll wait here.

LRH: Well, either one or the other. Is it Stay there, or I'll wait here? What's the holder?

PC: I don't know. Why? Do you think there's a holder in this prenatal area?

LRH: I know damn well thereb a holder in the incident you're running right this minute. Now
let's contact the holder. Your somatic strip can contact it. Thereb a call-back and a
holder here.

PC: You stay there, I'll call you back.



LRH: Go on.

PC: Wait for me, I'm going over.

LRH: Go over it, honey.

PC: I'm trying to get the right words. (pause) Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Get the contact on this. Go over it again.

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: Go over it again. Contact her sonic on this. Contact the somatic on this. Contact the
emotion on this. How does she'say That'stay there, I'll call you right back?

PC: Stay there, I'll call you right back. Stay there, I'll call you right back.

LRH: All right. Go on over it.

PC: She sounds like somebody just hit her on the head with a club.

LRH: I'm stunned.

PC: I'm stunned. I'm stunned. I'm stunned.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm stunned.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm stunned.

LRH: Okay. (pause) Come up to present time. (pause) How old are you?

PC: 28.

LRH: Okay.

[recording ends at this point]



2nd Session, 8 June 1950

LRH: Okay. Now shut your eyes and pick up the sonic and visio of the holder you're in. You
say you're 16. Okay. Thereb a holder then at 16. Lets contact it. Now what is it?

PC: I can't....

LRH: You can't what?

PC: I can't contact....

LRH: You've got an audio there with it. Just listen for a second and you'll pick up exactly
what the holder is, in audio. (pause) What is it?

PC: I don't know, I'm not getting anything.

LRH: All right. Where might you be there at 16?

PC: (pause)

LRH: When I count from one to five, you're going to tell me exactly what location you're in
when you're 16 there in that holder. One-two-three-four-five (snap!). What is it?

PC: That's all I get.

LRH: Tell me what it is.

PC: Uh-uh....

LRH: You know where it is. Now give me a flash answer to this. How old are you?

PC: It sounds like 16 again.

LRH: Well, what happened? Is it 16 still?

PC: Think so.

LRH: All right. Now tell me, whatb happening there while you're 16? (pause) Give me a yes
or no answer on this one. Are you in a hospital?

PC: No.

LRH: Are you at home?

PC: I don't know. My first answer was no.

LRH: Are you at school?

PC: No.

LRH: In a doctor's office?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over the words I don't know.

PC: I don't know.



LRH: Go over them again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Contact them again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (yawning) I don't know.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Contact it squarely. A voice saying, I don't know.

PC: I don't know. (pause) I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (whispers) I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: All right. The next thing that flashes into your mind will be the name of the person who
is with you. Flash!

PC: My mother.

LRH: All right. The next phrase that flashes into your mind is the words your mother is
uttering. Flash!

PC: We're in some doctor's office. I don't know whether it was an appeal to me that that
was it. I wasn't sure.

LRH: I'm not sure. Go over I'm not sure.



PC: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

LRH: Go over I don't know, I'm not sure.

PC: I don't know. I'm not sure.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (sighing) I don't know. I'm not sure.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know. I'm not sure.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know. I'm not sure.

LRH: Contact it more closely. I don't know. I'm not sure.

PC: (pause) I don't know. I'm not sure.

LRH: All right. Your eyes are closed. There are visios going to show up when I count to five.
One-two-three-four-five (snap!). What's the visio?

PC: Oh, I can see a doctor's office.

LRH: Okay. Where is your mother standing?

PC: She's sitting down.

LRH: Whereb the doctor?

PC: He's sitting behind his desk.

LRH: Where are you?

PC: I'm sitting in front of his desk, opposite him.

LRH: What's he doing to you?

PC: My mother's asking him about a mole I have on my nose which is pretty miserable
looking.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And, I've gotten after her. I'm very conscious of it. She has taken me to the doctor. I
don't know if this is why she's mainly taking me but she's asking him if it can be
removed safely. And he's saying, I'm not sure. I don't know enough about it. But I'll
give you the name and address of one of my professors where I went to school. He
knows all about this stuff.

LRH: Continue.

PC: He really would know what to advise you. He's a very good man. I can recommend
him.

LRH: Continue.



PC: And he's writing down his name and address. I know the name of the doctor too.

LRH: What else does he say?

PC: (pause) If I'm not mistaken my mother has brought me there because I'm complaining
of not having any energy. I'm always sleepy, I'm always tired.

LRH: What does she'say about it?

PC: (sigh) Let me go back and get her words. I don't know what's wrong with her.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know what's wrong with her.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She just doesn't seem to hare any energy. She's always complaining of being tired.

LRH: She'd always what?

PC: She's always complaining of being tired.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Pick up the words run down there, honey.

PC: Run down is there all right.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (pause) I think she must be rund own.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think she must be run-down.

LRH: Who's saying it?

PC: My mother.

LRH: What's she saying now?

PC: I d like you to give her a good physical and see what's wrong. I think she's pretty run-
down.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I think she's pretty run-down. (deep breath)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think she's pretty run-down.

LRH: That's beautiful. Okay.

PC: That's a very nice one.

LRH: Contact it again. How does she look when she's saying this?



PC: Worried.

LRH: All right. Now, whatb she'saying?

PC: (Dear, good old mother.) We should give her a good physical and find out what's
wrong. I think she's pretty run-down. She must be pretty run-down. And she's very
nervous. She cries at the least little thing. I can't do a thing with her.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue.

PC: At which I squirm and feel very uncomfortable.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I'm being exposed to the doctor.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I'll tell you the truth, I can't do a thing with her. She cries at the least little thing. That's
all I'm picking up of her conversation.

LRH: Hm?

PC: That's all I pick up of her conversation

LRH: What does the doctor say?

PC: Well, Mother's saying, I've really got my hands full with her.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I He really got my hands full with her.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I He really got my hands full with her.

LRH: Now what does the doctor say? (pause) Does the doctor say run-down?

PC: Yes, he says run-down too.

LRH: All right. Lets pick up what he says there.

PC: Well, it might be any number of things. She might be run-down as you say. She might
have a thyroid deficiency. I can't find anything right here. She does look a little anemic.
And I'd like to give her a basal metabolism test to make sure That'she doesn't have a
thyroid deficiency.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: I'd like to give her a thyroid test first to make sure she doesn't have a thyroid
deficiency.

LRH: Okay. And what does the doctor say about run-down?

PC: (pause) Hm. She might be just run-down and anemic. But I'd like to give her a basal to
make sure That'she doesn't have a thyroid deficiency.



LRH: Lets go over that again. You've clear visio on him now?

PC: This is the first time I've seen his face since I've been running this. It just came in and it
disappeared again.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I just saw his face for a fleeting instant for the first time and now I've lost it.

LRH: Okay. What does he say? Run-down.

PC: She might be just run-down and anemic. But I'd like to make sure That'she doesn't
have a thyroid deficiency. I'd like to give her a basal metabolism test.

LRH: All right, lets go over that again.

PC: She may be just a little run-down and in need of a tonic.

LRH: Have you got a visio on him now? (pause) Go over it again.

PC: It's coming in. (laughs) It's coming in worse.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over it again.

PC: Oh, it's starting to come in now.

LRH: Hm?

PC: He's starting to come in now.

LRH: All right. What's he saying?

PC: She may be just run-down and need a tonic to build her up. She is a little anemic.

LRH: The guys going along a straight line that has in it run-down and then build up-that's
very interesting.

PC: Hm.

LRH: Okay. Lets run it over again. Let's get the visio on his face there.

PC: He keeps coming and going.

LRH: What's he saying?

PC: She may be just a little run-down and need a tonic to build her up but I'd like to make
sure.

LRH: All right, honey, repeat run-down going straight into the prenatal area with it, all the
way down into the prenatal area.

PC: Run-down.

LRH: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Lets go straight into the
prenatal area with it.

PC: Run-down. Run-down.



LRH: Run-down.

PC: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down.
Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. (PC: actually
does run down as she repeats the phrase)

LRH: What are you contacting there now, honey?

PC: I have a feeling that this is tied up with my mother's early discovery of being
pregnant-or maybe she doesn't even know she's pregnant yet-and someone is telling
her she's probably just a little run-down.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over that again.

PC: That's just an impression.

LRH: Okay. I'm not trying to sell you anything.

PC: Yah, I know, I just thought I'd let you know.

LRH: All right. We've got the bottom of the chain now. Okay?

PC: Good. I'm glad for that.

LRH: All right.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Run-down. What have you got there?

PC: (grunt)

LRH: Let's contact that again.

PC: Whats wrong....

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: Whats wrong? You're....

LRH: Complete with somatic, lets roll it again.

PC: What's wrong? You're not your old self these days. What's bothering you lately ?
You're not the same girl you were a few months ago.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Those aren't the words but it's something similar.

LRH: That's all right. Run the concept that you want, honey.

PC: You're not yourself these days. (Oh, that's a nice one.)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I don't know. I'm just not feeling right. I don't know what's wrong with me. Oh,
you're probably just a little run down after all the excitement of the wedding.



LRH: Continue.

PC: You know, it was quite a strain. It all happened so suddenly. You were so busy
beforehand, you had so much to do, and all the excitement and everything. This is
probably just the reaction from it. (pause)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Lets contact the beginning of it, and see if we can pick up the somatic
on the beginning of it now. Lets roll it, honey.

PC: (long pause) I don't know who's talking to her.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I have no idea who is talking to her yet.

LRH: Okay. Lets start at the beginning and just roll what you've got there, honey.

PC: What's bothering you lately?

LRH: Hm?

PC: What's bothering you lately anyway? You just don't seem to be yourself these days.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You're not as cheerful. You seem to have lost something. (Oh, that's a nice one too.)

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: You seem to have lost something. Is anything wrong?

LRH: Continue.

PC: You're not the same as in the old days.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Something is missing

LRH: Continue.

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Continue. Something is missing. Go over that again.

PC: (whispers) Something is missing.

LRH: Youseem to have lost something, something is missing. Go over that again.

PC: You seem to hare lost something, something is missing.

LRH: Continue.

PC: A certain part of you is missing.

LRH: What?



PC: A certain part of you seems to be missing. You're lost your pep. (Very true.)

LRH: Continue.

PC: You seem to hare lost all your pep, and all your good nature. Oh, I don't know, I don't
know what's bothering me. I'm just not feeling right these days.

LRH: Continue. Just not what?

PC: I'm just not feeling right these days.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: Oh, I've got a million of them. (sigh)

LRH: Let's run this basic engram.

PC: (deep breath, breath catches momentarily)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh) I'm just not feeling right these days.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm not myself. I don't know what's wrong.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (inhales then belches) Pardon me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause)Oh, you're probably just a little run-down.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Hm, just a little run-down. You're probably feeling the aftereffects of the wedding and
all the excitement. It all happened very fast, you know.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: I'm getting something about the first few weeks of marriage. You know, terrible strain.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Something comparable.

LRH: Okay. Keep rolling.

PC: I'm not getting the exact words. Somebody's giving some very so-called mature advice
of, I've been all through it, I know. That's the impression I get.

LRH: I've been all through it, I know.

PC: (laughs) I've been all through it, I know. You don't have to tell me, I know. (I'd lose
to know who the hell this is.)



LRH: Run over it again.

PC: You don't have to be afraid to tell me, dear, I know. Or, You don't have to keep
anything from me, dear, I know what's happening. You don't have to be ashamed,
dear, or afraid to tell me.

LRH: All right. Lets contact the beginning of the engram and roll it again. Let's contact the
beginning of the engram. Lets contact the first somatic on this line.

PC: (long pause) I can't get the first words.

LRH: When I count from one to five, they'll flash into your mind. One-two-threefour-
five(snap./).

PC: What's botheringyou lately? I've been wanting to talk to you about this for some time.
I've been watching you and you're not the same. Is anything wrong? She's saying,
What do you mean? Oh, I've noticed it. You don't seem to be happy. You seem to have
lost a lot of your spirit and vitality. (pause; deep sigh)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: You're just not the same girl I used to know.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: You're just not the same girl I used to know.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You're just not the same girl I used to know.

LRH: Continue.

PC: What happened to you? You know you can tell me. I've certainly had enough
experience. (Who is this?) (exhales)

LRH: Let's go over it again. Let's contact the first part of it. Now thereb an earlier somatic on
that. Lets get the somatic, honey. Let's contact the somatic. I know it says you're run-
down. Run that phrase over a few times. Run-down. Run-down.

PC: Run-down.

LRH: Run-down.

PC: Run-down. Run-down.

LRH: Run-down.

PC: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. (belches)
Pardon me. Is that it?

LRH: Go over it again. Run-down.

PC: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. (belches) Heh. Run-down. Run-down. Run-
down. Run-down. (inhales, belches) Well, there's something there!

LRH: All right. Let's roll it with Run-down.



PC: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. (inhales, belches) Run-
down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-
down.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it.

PC: Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down.
Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down. Run-down.

LRH: What's the full phrase?

PC: You must be run-down.

LRH: What?

PC: You must be run-down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You must be run-down.

LRH: Contact it again.

PC: You must be run-down.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it. Go over it again.

PC: You must be run-down. (breathes) You're probably just a little run-down.

LRH: Which is it?

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Which one is it? You must be run-down, or You're just a little run-down?

PC: You're probably run-down. You're probably run-down.And if you think I'm sure, I'm
not. I'm not sure of anything today.

LRH: Go over I'm probably run-down.

PC: I'm probably run-down.

LRH: Contact the somatic.

PC: I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. (yawns) I'm probably run-down.

LRH: There we are. Go over that again. I'm probably run-down.

PC: I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. (deep
breath) Ooh, that's it.

LRH: Okay. Go over it again. Lets get the sonic on this now.

PC: Ron, have I got a sonic shut-off?



LRH: Run-down.

PC: I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. (yawns) I'm probably run-down.
I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. (ends in a
whisper, inhales, belches)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm probably run-down.

LRH: Contact it with That somatic.

PC: I'm probably run-down.

LRH: Good, lets contact it.

PC: I feel nice and squeamish right in here.

LRH: All right.

PC: Probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. I'm probably
run-down. (inhales, belches)

LRH: All right. Lets go over that again. I'm probably run-down.

PC: I'm probably run-down.

LRH: Contact it closely. Somatic and sonic.

PC: I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. I'm probably run-down. Oh, I don't
know- I'm getting these words: I don't know, everything seems to be wrong.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: I don't know, everything seems to be wrong.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Everything seems to be wrong. I don't know, everything seems to be wrong. I must be
run-down.

LRH: What?

PC: I must be run-down are the next words.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over that.

PC: Oh, I don't know, everything seems to be wrong. I must be run-down. (inhales,
belches)

LRH: Go over That'sequence again.

PC: Oh, I don't know, everything seems to be wrong. Oh, I don't know, everything seems
to be wrong. I must be run-down. After all the excitement of the wedding and
everything It isn't easy. I get the words It isn't easy.

LRH: What?



PC: I get the words. It isn't easy.

LRH: It what?

PC: It isn't easy

LRH: Go over that.

PC: It isn't easy

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't easy

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't easy

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy.

LRH: Contact the somatic for this.

PC: It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy. (exhales) It isn't easy.
I've got the somatic.

LRH: Okay, let's go over it.

PC: I've got a sharp pain right here, in back of my leg, my thigh.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it now.

PC: It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy.

LRH: What comes in sequence to that?

PC: (pause) A whole new life.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I've got the impression here That she's saying something about. .. she's not using the
word adjustment, but she's referring to marital adjustment in her own particular way. I
can't get her words. I get the words It isn't easy.

LRH: Who is she talking to?

PC: You know it isn't easy.

LRH: Who is she talking to?

PC: I've got the impression That'she's talking to an older married cousin.

LRH: All right. Let's begin at the beginning of the engram and roll it.

PC: (murmur)



LRH: Burps and all.

PC: (grunts, exhales)

LRH: Let's roll it.

PC: I'm having difficulty getting the first words.

LRH: Let's roll it. (pause) Contact those first words. The somatic stripe right there. You
know what they are.

PC: (inhales, belches, exhales)

LRH: That's what they are.

PC: Apparently.

LRH: All right. Let's go over this. Contact the sonic on that belch.

PC: (pause) No sonic.

LRH: All right, let's run it.

PC: (breathing heavily)

LRH: Is this the first engram of the series?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: If there's an earlier run-down we will go to it. The somatic strip can find any earlier
run-down that is there.

PC: I don't think there is one.

LRH: All right. Lets roll this engram then. First part of it.

PC: What's wrong withyou anyway?

LRH: Continue.

PC: You're not yourself. You're not the same girl I used to know. I've been watching you.

LRH: All right. Now your somatic strip will go to the exact moment that makes you play this
off the line here. The exact moment why you're not running this on the same line that
its on.

PC: What do you mean?

LRH: All right. What's the statement there that's holding you off from this engram?

PC: (pause) I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Huh?

PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Go over that again.



PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Is that in the engram?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it again.

PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: I don't know what you're talking about.

LRH: Lets contact it very solidly now. Lets go over it again. Contact the somatic on this and
go over it again.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Attagirl. Now lets get those two things simultaneously. Lets go over it again.

PC: (belches, exhales)

LRH: Contact it now. What's she saying?

PC: What's wrong with you lately Nan? I've been watching you. Wanting to talk to you
about it the first chance I got.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Somethings wrong. You're just not yourself. You're not the same girl I used to know.
You've lost something. There's a certain something missing.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You don't seem to laugh as much. Haven't got the same spirit, the same good nature.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Somethings bothering you You can tell me. Maybe I can help.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I'm almost sure, I think I am sure, of who she's talking to.

LRH: Almost sure of what?

PC: Of the person to whom she's speaking.

LRH: Okay. What is it?



PC: To Cousin Eva.

LRH: All right. Lets roll it.

PC: You can tell me. Maybe I can help.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She's saying, I don't know what you're talking about. And my cousin Eva's saying,
You don't have to be afraid of me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: You can tell me. Maybe there's something I can do to help you.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I don't know, everything seems to be wrong. I'm just not myself these days.
(belch) I'm probably run-down. It's probably only the effects of the wedding, and all
the excitement. (pause; breathes) I guess I don't have to tell you it isn't easy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It isn't easy, and I cannot get the next words.

LRH: When I count to five they'll flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five.

PC: I guess I don't have to tell you it isn't easy. It isn't easy to. ..

LRH: One-two-three-four-five. It isn't easy. Now give me the next words. (pause) Next
words.

PC: to set up a whole new life with a total stranger.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (Poor Daddy was a total stranger.) It's all so different. I have to get used to it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I have to get used to it.

LRH: It doesn't matter whether you get it right or not. Lets roll it.

PC: (murmurs) It isn't easy. It isn't easy.

LRH: It isn't easy to what?

PC: (murmurs) It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy.

LRH: Get the somatic with It isn't easy.

PC: It isn't easy. It isn't easy. It isn't easy. (inhales, belches) Gosh, it happens everywhere,
doesn't it. It isn't easy to get used to living with a man.

LRH: Hm. Go over that again.



PC: It isn't easy to get used to living with a man whom you never knew before. It isn't easy
to get used to living with a man, period. If you know what I mean, flush, flush, flush.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It isn't easy to get used to living with a man.

LRH: What?

PC: It isn't easy to get used to living with a man.

LRH: Okay. What's the next line?

PC: If you know what I mean.

LRH: Okay. Next line.

PC: Poor mother, she's very embarrassed by this time.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I get the perceptics pretty well.

LRH: Okay. Keep going.

PC: What's the matter, don't you like it?

LRH: Is she'sick at this point?

PC: She probably is.

LRH: What?

PC: Probably nauseous.

LRH: All right. Lets go to the point where she'says she is.

PC: (pause) She's saying, I don't enjoy it at all.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Talking about sex, I don't enjoy it at all.

LRH: What else is she saying?

PC: (inhales, belches) Well, I. . .

LRH: What does she'say?

PC: I . . I don't enjoy it at all.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't enjoy it at all. I can't see. .. something. I don't enjoy it at all. This is probably
important to note-I can't get any further than the words I can't see.

LRH: All right. I can't see. (snaps fingers) Next line. Go over the line It makes me sick. Let's
see if its there.



PC: It makes me sick

LRH: It makes me nauseated.

PC: It makes me....

LRH: To talk about it.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Go over that line. It makes me nauseated.

PC: It nauseates me

LRH: What?

PC: It nauseates me

LRH: All right. Go over that.

PC: It nauseates me just to think about it.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that again.

PC: It nauseates me just to think about it.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over it again.

PC: It nauseates me just to think about it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It nauseates me just to think about it. It nauseates me just to think about it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't like it. I get that definitely.

LRH: What?

PC: I definitely get the words I don't like it.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: I can't see. I can't see what there is to it, or....

LRH: It makes me squirm. Go over that.

PC: Makes me squirm? (laughs) It makes me squirm.

LRH: I feel squeamish.

PC: I can't talk about it.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: I can't talk about it.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't talk about it.

LRH: All right. Squeamish.

PC: Squeamish. Squeamish. Squeamish. It makes me feel squeamish. I feel squeamish just
talking about it.

LRH: Okay. Go over that again.

PC: I feel squeamish just talking about it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel squeamish just talking about it.

LRH: What's your somatic on this?

PC: None-outside of that little discomfort right here which has persisted.

LRH: `Cause what?

PC: I have this persistent discomfort right here.

LRH: In your chest. Okay.

PC: On the edge of nausea.

LRH: Uh-huh. And whatb she saying about nausea?

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Run over that.

PC: I think it `s nauseating.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating. I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it `s nauseating.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating. (inhales, belches)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (giggles) I think it's nauseating.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Contact That'somatic now.

PC: (inhales, belches, exhales)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think it's nauseating.

LRH: Contact the moment she's speaking these words.

PC: I think it's absolutely nauseating. I think the whole thing is absolutely nauseating.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: Oh, that's a beauty! Oh boy, I'd like to lay my hands on her!

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I think the whole thing is absolutely nauseating. I think the whole thing is absolutely
nauseating. You know, I'm getting a nice headache.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again.

PC: I think the whole thing is absolutely nauseating.

LRH: Contact the words there. Get a sonic on it, honey.

PC: I think the whole thing is absolutely nauseating. I can't see what anyone sees in it.

LRH: What?

PC: I can't see what anyone sees in it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't see what anyone sees in it. (Oh boy!)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: {I. can't see what anyone sees in it.

LRH:- Go over it again.

PC: I can't see what anyone sees in it.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I can't see what anyone sees in it. It has to.... Let me see, there's some more here. I
can't see what anyone sees in it. It seems to me you'd have to be pretty low down.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (laughs) It seems to me you'd have to be pretty low down to enjoy anything like that.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: It's not for me. (Oh boy./)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It seems to me a person would have to be pretty low down to enjoy a thing like that. It's
not for me. I know one thing, it's not for me.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Contact it, there.

PC: (slight groan)

LRH: Go on, roll it.

PC: (inhales, belches, exhales)

LRH: Go on.

PC: (grunts, sigh) I think it's pretty nauseating. To me it's all very nauseating. I don't want
any part of it. It seems to me that you'd have to be pretty low down to enjoy a thing like
that.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I just can't see it. I can't see it two cents' worth.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I just can't see it. I can't see it two cents' worth.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Theres nothing to it (inhales, belches)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Theres nothing to it (pause)

LRH: The file clerk will go to the earliest reason why you're having these belches now. The
file clerk will go to the earliest reason you're having these belches.

PC: (pause; inhales, belches)

LRH: The earliest reason now why we're having these belches. (pause) Earliest reason we're
having these belches. (pause) Lets contact it. (pause) Earliest reason.



PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: The somatic strip will go to the earliest reason we're having these belches. Nothing
happens, go over that again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: Early. Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening. (inhales, belches)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing's happening.

LRH: What's the rest of it?

PC: (small sigh)

LRH: Nothing's happening.

PC: I just feel sick. (inhales, belches)

LRH: Contact the somatic.

PC: Nothing's happening. I just feel sick. If I could only get it out.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: Nothing's happening. I feel so sick. If I could only get it out.

LRH: Let's roll it again.

PC: (inhales, belches) I feel so sick. If I could only get it out.

LRH: What comes after that?

PC: This has really-ooh!

LRH: Hm?



PC: This has really turned the somatic fully on. I feel Very sick and I'm Violently ill.

LRH: Go on. I'm violently ill.

PC: I'm violently ill.

LRH: Let's go to the moment where Papa feels sorry for her.

PC: Nothing's happening. I....

LRH: Go on, what does Papa say when he feels sorry for her?

PC: Gee, I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I wish there was something I could do to help you.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I feel so helpless.

LRH: I'll hold your head. Go over it again. (pause) Is that it?

PC: can I hold your head ? Do you want me to hold your head? No, I don't.

LRH: Who said, Hold it down, (pause) honey?

PC: Hm?

LRH: Who says, Hold it down? (pause) Hm?

PC: Try to hold it

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Try to hold it

LRH: Who's talking to her?

PC: My grandmother.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that again. Our ally. Okay. Let's go over that. Try to hold it down.

PC: Try to hold it....

LRH: Let's try to hold it down. Come on, now.

PC: (small sigh)

LRH: Roll the line. Contact it there. Try to hold it down.

PC: Try to hold it down.

LRH: Get a sonic on it, honey. Try to hold it down.

PC: She might not be saying this in English.



LRH: Oh. What would she be saying it in?

PC: She might be saying it in Yiddish.

LRH: Lets pick up the sonic on it.

PC: (pause; murmur)

LRH: Come on. You don't have to think about the subject of Yiddish. Lets just repeat the
syllables you get. Only the syllables you get. (pause) When I count to five, these
syllables will flash into your mind right there. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: Has dis plee. Keep it in.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Has dis plee. I think those are the words I'm getting. That's actually what I'm getting.

LRH: All right. Roll it.

PC: Has dis plee.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Has dis plee.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: And she's saying, Please try. Has dis plee.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Half and half.

LRH: Is that what it is?

PC: It's half English and half Yiddish.

LRH: What is it again?

PC: Try. Has dis plee.

LRH: Now what does your mother say?

PC: I'd feel much better if I could get rid of it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'd feel much better if I could get rid of it.

LRH: Go over it again, dear.

PC: I'd feel much better if I could....

LRH: Now what does Grandma say?

PC: Please try. Has dis plee. (murmurs a phrase in Yiddish)



LRH: What?

PC: Wait a minute, this is Yiddish. (murmurs sentence in Ylddish) Maybe you can hang on
to it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (gives same phrase haltingly in Yiddish) This is not coming easily. (repeats sentence in
Yiddish)

LRH: When does Grandma agree to let it go?

PC: I don't know if she does or not.

LRH: Come on.

PC: (small sigh; pause)

LRH: All right, honey.

PC: (sigh)

LRH: How old are you?

PC: Fiue. (laugh)

LRH: What?

PC: Fiue.

LRH: Five what? (pause) Go on, five what?

PC: Fine days.

LRH: All right, honey. Just run it from the beginning there. Contact the beginning of it, and
run it on through.

PC: (pause) I feel fine, I lost the somatic.

LRH: All right. Pick up Let it come up then.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Let it come up then. (pause) What language is it in?

PC: The belch? (laugh)

LRH: That Let it come up then.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Sounds like what?

PC: (giggle)

LRH: That's a push button, isn't it, honey?

PC: Yeah.



LRH: Let it come up then. (pause) What language is it in?

PC: I don't know. It's probably in Yiddish.

LRH: Let it come up then. Let it come up then.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: (chuckles) Okay.

PC: See what I mean. Oh.

LRH: Let it come up then. What's the Yiddish for that?

PC: That's where my trouble is, I don't know.

LRH: Don't know what?

PC: What the Yiddish is for it.

LRH: Ah, come on, repeat, Let it come up then.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Go over it again. (pause; snaps fingers twice)

PC: Oh, no, damn it.

LRH: Just repeat, Let it come up then.

PC: Let it come up then. Try to get it up.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Try to get it up

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: Try to get it up then.

LRH: Is it in English? Let it come up then.

PC: (pause) Damn. I'm not contacting this.

LRH: All right. Let it come up then.

PC: Let it come up then. Let it come up then. (inhales, belches) Boy.

LRH: Go over it again. Let it come up then.

PC: Let it come up then. Let it come up then. Let it come up then.

LRH: Have you got a somatic again?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Where is it?



PC: Same place.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that. Let it come up then.

PC: Let it come up then. Let it come up then. Maybe it's someone saying, Maybe if you put
your finger in the back of your throat.

LRH: All right. Go over that.

PC: (A helpful suggestion.) (breathes) Maybe if you put your finger way in the back of your
throat you can bring it up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Maybe if you put your finger way back in your throat you can bring it up. It'll come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You can make it come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Try putting your finger way d own in the back of your throat. Maybe you can make it
come up that way. (pause) I get the voice of another cousin.

LRH: What is it?

PC: Elsa.

LRH: What?

PC: Cousin Elsa.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: She's the one who's giving the advice about putting your finger down in back of your
throat.

LRH: Giving you the advice?

PC: My mother.

LRH: Yah. And what else does she'say?

PC: That ought to make it come up That ought to help you. And my grandmother is a little
dismayed at this and she's saying, Well, this way she might as well get rid of it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Listen, if she feels so badly she might as well get rid of it. You don't want her to feel
miserable. You don't want her to go on feeling this way, do you? You want to help her
to feel better, don't you?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Then you have to help her get rid of it. (Ooh-delightful./)



LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (sigh) You want the last sentence?

LRH: Yes.

PC: You want to help her feel better, don't you? You see she's miserable this way. If
getting rid of it is going to make her feel better, that's the answer.

LRH: Okay.

PC: You should help her. You shouldn't feel badly about her throwing it up. (inhales,
belches, exhales)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Yeah, that's the answer to feeling good, isn't it?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Isn't that nice.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (small sigh) (Oddball computations.) Look, she's so miserable. You don't want her to
go on feeling this way, do you? We're trying to help her. If she's going to feel better by
getting rid of it, then the faster the better-the sooner the better.

LRH: Okay.

PC: It's the only sensible thing to do. (Isn't that nice.)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's the only sensible thing to do.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over it.

PC: It's the only sensible thing to do. (pause) Go ahead, put your finger down the back of
your throat. That's right.

LRH: Does the word pregnant appear in here?

PC: (pause) My grandmother is saying in Yiddish, Perhaps she's pregnant.

LRH: What?

PC: She's saying it with a grin, she's not nice. (laugh) Isn't it funny, I get these perceptics.
Perhaps she's pregnant. Maybe she's pregnant. She's saying it as though she's kind of
hopeful.

LRH: Yah? And whatb the answer?

PC: (pause) That would be nice. I don't know what the answer to that is. I don't seem to be
able to pick up the next words.

LRH: Why?



PC: Oh, that would Just kill me.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Thats all I need. That would just kill me.

LRH: What?

PC: Those are the words.

LRH: Oh. That's all I need. Okay.

PC: (belches) Those aren't the exact words, but it's something to that effect.

LRH: All right. Go over it again.

PC: Yeah. That's all I need now. That would be the end of me.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: That's all I need now. That would be the end of me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: My God, I never thought of that. Somebody's saying they never thought of that.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (sigh) How come I never thought of that?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, but it s too early to tell.

LRH: What?

PC: It's too early to tell.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's too early to tell.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's too early to tell.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's much too early to tell.

LRH: Continue. Next line.

PC: (pause)What would you do if you were? That's Cousin Elsa. What would you do if
you were pregnant? (belches)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (inhales, belches)



LRH: Continue.

PC: What would you do if you were pregnant?

LRH: Continue.

PC: (small sigh) What the hell is she saying? What would you do if you were pregnant
anyway? (pause) Oh, please, don't even talk to me about it.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Oh, please, don't even talk to me about it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I don't even want to entertain the thought.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Next line. (pause) Continue.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Next line.

PC: (grunt)

LRH: When I count from one to five, it will flash into your mind. One-two-threefour-five
(snap!).

PC: (whimper)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I wouldn't want to entertain.... Oh, please don't even mention it.

LRH: How long does this engram run?

PC: Your guess is as good as mine.

LRH: How are your somatics?

PC: All right.

LRH: Hm?

PC: So-so.

LRH: They're so-so.

PC: Yah.

LRH: What do you mean so-so?

PC: Well, I think that the nausea has diminished. The edge has come off of it.

LRH: All right. Next time you come back to this will you know about it?

PC: Oh God, I hope so.



LRH: You hope so?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Youwill know about it?

PC: I want to know about it.

LRH: What are the first words of it?

PC: (pause) If only I could get it out I'd feel better. Nothing is happening.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Nothing is happening.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Nothing is happening. If only I could get rid of it I'd feel better. (inhales, belches)

LRH: Continue. Can you pick up the compression somatic on that? Let's go back over that
again. Lets see if we can pick up the compression somatic. Nothing is happening.

PC: (murmurs) If only I could bring it up. I'd feel so much better.

LRH: Lets go over that again.

PC: Nothing is happening. Nothing is happening. If only I could bring it up, I'd feel so
much better.

LRH: Can you contact sonic on that?

PC: No, not really.

LRH: All right. Can we contact the somatic on it?

PC: I'm experiencing the full force of the nausea.

LRH: You're experiencing Mama's somatics, in other words.

PC: That's right.

LRH: Doyou ever experience your own somatics?

PC: I think so.

LRH: Have you ever felt an all-over pressure?

PC: No.

LRH: Never have, huh?

PC: And I've belched like crazy through a great many engrams.

LRH: All right. Let's run the line. That baby is a partofyou.



PC: That baby is a part of you. That baby is a part of you. That baby is a part of you. That
baby is a part of you.

LRH: What paraphrase on this would appear?

PC: Can't get rid of it. (inhale, belch) This is somebody trying to....

LRH: Trying to what?

PC: Trying to interrupt an AA.

LRH: And what is it? (pause) Can't get rid of it? Go on.

PC: Can't get rid of it. It's a part of you. It would be getting....

LRH: What?

PC: It's a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It would be like getting rid of part of yourself.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again.

PC: (inhales, belches)

LRH: Contact it again.

PC: (grunts)

LRH: What's the somatic?

PC: I still have the nausea.

LRH: What?

PC: I still have the nausea.

LRH: Nausea.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll it again. That baby's a part of you.

PC: That baby's a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That baby's a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That baby's a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That baby's a part of you.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Have you no feelings ?

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: Have you no feelings? That baby's a part of you. How can you do such a thing? Have
you no feelings? That baby's a part of you. (inhales, belches)

LRH: Go on. How can you do such a thing?

PC: How can you do such a thing? Have you no feelings? That baby is a part of you.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: Have you no feelings? That baby s a part of you.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: Have you no feelings? That baby's a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Have you no feelings? That baby is a part of you.

LRH: Go over it again. Get a sonic on it.

PC: (belches) Excuse me!

LRH: Get a sonic on it.

PC: Listen, there's a john in here, isn't there, in case I vomit?

LRH: Yes.

PC: Okay, I hope it won't come. (laughs)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (pause) I'm feeling terribly sick.

LRH: What?

PC: I'm feeling pretty sick. I'll try running it again.

LRH: That babyb a part of you.

PC: That baby's a part of you.

LRH: I'm feeling pretty sick. I'm sick of it.

PC: I'm sick of it

LRH: What's the phrase?

PC: You make me sick.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You make me sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You make me sick. For crying out loud, you make me sick. That baby's a part of you.
(belch) Have you no feelings?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Wheres your mother instinct?

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Where's your mother instinct?

LRH: Have you got a somatic?

PC: No.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Where's your mother instinct?

LRH: Go over it again. That baby's a part of you.

PC: That baby's a part of you.

LRH: For crying out loud. (sound of knocking) Come in. (sound of a door opening) Okay.
Leave your somatics on the time track and come up to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All the way up to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All the way.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Forward to present time.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Five, four, three, two, one.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: (snap! snap!) Canceled.

PC: Thank you.

Session, 9 June 1950



PC: I still have all the symptoms. I mean the diarrhea's just as bad but no vomiting this
morning. There was a little nausea but it passed.

LRH: No vomiting.

PC: No vomiting. Didn't eat much, I had very little for breakfast.

LRH: Come up to present time.

PC: Hm?

LRH: How old are you?

PC: 28.

LRH: Okay. Put your glasses down. Close your eyes. Any time in the future that I say to you
the word canceled, it will cancel what I have said to you while you are lying there on
the bed with your eyes closed in reverie. Now that's understood, isn't it?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Now I want a flash reply. In regard to the initial cause of this colitis condition,
diarrhea, I want you to tell me the age of that cause. How old were you when that cause
occurred? How old were you when the cause occurred?

PC: 5.

LRH: What's the date? Give me the date. The first date that flashes into your mind.

PC: `27. I figured it out, though.

LRH: No, give me the day.

PC: The day?

LRH: Yah, day. Come on, flash.

PC: Thursday.

LRH: And month. Flash.

PC: April.

LRH: And what year?

PC: `27.

LRH: Okay. Lets contact it, honey. Lets contact it. Thursday, April, 1927. On a Thursday in
April, a Thursday in April. (pause) You can return to it. Now, we're going to start with
the personnel present there. Give me a yes or no on each of the following, on a flash
answer basis: Mother.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Grandmother.

PC: No.



LRH: Grandfather.

PC: No.

LRH: Father.

PC: No.

LRH: Doctor.

PC: No.

LRH: Is your mother alone?

PC: Apparently.

LRH: With you?

PC: Well, I can give to you a flash answer, but I'm not getting any impressions.

LRH: Okay. Did you almost die?

PC: No.

LRH: What happened to you? (pause) When I count to five, you will tell me all about it. One-
two-three-four-five (snap!). (pause) Now the phrase out of the engram will flash into
your mind. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: I feel so weak.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Contact it. (pause) Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Contact the incident. (pause) Does your mother look sad, or is it your mother talking?

PC: I think it's my mother talking.

LRH: What's your mother suffering from?

PC: Piles.

LRH: Piles. What's she'sick with, piles?

PC: Apparently.

LRH: What are you sick with, there?

PC: I think That'she's sick. I'm not the one who's sick.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the incident. How does she look when she's saying that?

PC: (pause) No visio.

LRH: What room are you in?

PC: The bathroom.

LRH: The bathroom. What's the visio? What's happening to you?

PC: It seems to me I'm in the bathroom with my mother and she's having a hard time of it.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: (pause) I feel so weak. It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: What else does she'say?

PC: I don't like to see all that blood.

LRH: Next line.

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Next line. Just keep rolling right on through, honey. (pause) Go over the last line
again, How much longer can I go on this way?

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: (belches) Oh. (laughs) How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: How much longer can I go on.... (tearful voice) How much longer can I go on this
way?

LRH: Next line.

PC: Nothing seems to help.

LRH: Go over that. Nothing seems to help.

PC: Nothing seems to help.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause) I just got a flash impression here That'she could also be referring to her
pregnancy. My brother was born in May.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: I wasn't that young really.

LRH: Keep rolling. What was the last line we ran?

PC: Nothing seems to help.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Nothing seems to help. (pause)

LRH: How much longer can I go on this way?

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: That thing has sure got aberrative value!

PC: You're not kidding.

LRH: Roll it.

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Get a sonic on it

PC: I can't pick up the sonic. How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Continue. Repeat, How much longer can I go on this way? right down into the basic
fundamental moment that the thing is uttered. The first time it appears. How much
longer can I go on this way?

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Earlier.

PC: How much longer can I go on this way?



LRH: Earlier.

PC: How much longer can Igo on this way?

LRH: Earlier.

PC: (belch, chuckle) How much longer can Igo on this way? How much longer can Igo on
this way? It doesn't seem to end.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: There's no end to it

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (sigh) How much longer can Igo on this way? There's no end to it. (faint voice) How
much longer can I go on this way? There's no end to it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't seem to be getting better, I'm getting worse.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't seem to be getting better, I seem to be getting worse.

LRH: Okay.

PC: (inhale, belch)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't seem to be getting better, I seem to be getting worse.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause; sigh)

LRH: Continue. Next line.

PC: I'm not getting any words here.

LRH: What?

PC: Nothing's coming through.

LRH: All right. Go over that. Nothing's coming through.

PC: (laugh in voice) Nothing's coming through. (laugh) It's a dirty lie. Nothing's coming
through. Nothing's coming through.

LRH: Next line.

PC: This is hopeless.

LRH: Continue.



PC: Iguess I'm a hopeless case. It looks like a hopeless case. Something about a hopeless
case.

LRH: Go over the words hopeless case a couple of times.

PC: Hopeless case. Just a hopeless case. I'm just a hopeless case.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (inhale, belch) I'm just a hopeless case.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (yawns;pause) Now what?

LRH: All right. Lets return to the beginning of this particular sequence and roll it again. Your
sonic can pick up the beginning of the sequence. Your motor strip can go right to the
beginning of it.

PC: (pause; sigh) How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh) How much longer can I go on this way?

LRH: Continue. (pause) Roll the next line.

PC: (pause) How much longer can Igo on this way?

LRH: Next line.

PC: There's no end to it.

LRH: Continue. Pick up the sonic on it.

PC: Theres no end to it

LRH: Next line.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't take it much longer. I'm at the end of my rope.

LRH: Go over that again.



PC: I'm at the end of my rope

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know what to do next.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't know what to do next.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what to do next. (yawn)

LRH: Next line.

PC: It seems that nothing helps. Nothing helps.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing helps. I've tried everything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Nothing helps. I've tried everything.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Nothing helps. I've tried everything. (pause) Sometimes I wonder if there's any use in
going on.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Sometimes I wonder why I bother to go on. (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Sometimes I wonder why I bother to go on.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (yawn, moan; pause) I'm disgusted.

LRH: Continue.

PC: What's the use? (pause)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: There's something about a time element here, I can't get the right words.

LRH: All right. When I count from one to five, they will flash in your mind. One-two-three-
four-five (snap./).

PC: Something like It seems that this will never end, or This is going to go on forever.

LRH: All right, you will pick it up on the next run through. Continue.



PC: (yawn) I might as well give up.

LRH: Go on over that.

PC: I might as well give up

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I might as well give up (yawn) I might as well give up.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I ue got a pain right here.

LRH: Got a pain right here.

PC: I've got a pain right here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I Me got a pain right here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh! (yawn) I'm miserable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Everything happens to me

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Everything happens to me

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (inhales, belch) Everything happens to me.

LRH: Next line.

PC: If it isn't one thing it's another.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: If it isn't one thing it's another.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: If it isn't one thing it's another. If it isn't one damn thing it's another.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: I'll be glad when this is all ouer.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I'll be glad when this is all ouer.



LRH: Go over it again, dear.

PC: I'll be glad when this is all ouer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: And I won t have to suffer anymore.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: I'll be glad when this is all over and I won't have to suffer anymore.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again.

PC: I'll be glad when this is all over and I don't have to suffer anymore.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (inhales, belches, sob, yawn)

LRH: Next line.

PC: (belch) Oh God, how much worse can I feel?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh God, how much worse can I feel?

LRH: Next line.

PC: I'm sick as a dog. I'm sick as a dog.

LRH: Next line.

PC: And I don't want to tell anyone.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'm sick as a dog and I don't want to tell anyone.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I'm sick as a dog and I don't want to tell anyone. I'm sick as a dog and I don't want to
tell anyone. (pause) They're always got to ask a million questions. It's none of their
business. I'll just have to go through this by myself.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'll just have to go through this by myself.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll just have to go through this by myself.

LRH: Continue.

PC: That's all I get.



LRH: Go over that again.

PC: That's all I get, you mean?

LRH: Hm?

PC: Just the words That's all I get?

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: That's all I get.

LRH: Go over All I get.

PC: All I get. All I get. All I get. All I get. All I get are-all I get are questions.

LRH: What?

PC: Questions. I'm sick and tired....

LRH: Go over it again. I'm sick and tired.

PC: I'm sick and tired. I'm sick and tired of their prying. I'm sick and tired of being cross-
examined. That isn't right, I'm sick and tired of all their questions.

LRH: Okay. Let's return to the beginning of the incident now. The first somatic in this
incident. Your motor strip can go to the first somatic in this incident, first one. This
particular incident, first somatic. When I count from one to five-you're right there
now-when I count from one to five and snap my fingers you will tell me what the first
phrase is, the real first phrase of this sequence. One-two-three-four-five (snap!) .

PC: I don't know.

LRH: What?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, what's the use. I don't know, what's the use.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: There's just no end to it. How much longer can this possibly go on?

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't stand it much longer.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's getting me down.



LRH: Uh-huh. Continue.

PC: (whispers) It's getting me down.

LRH: Continue. (pause) It's getting me down. Go over that again.

PC: It's getting me down. It's getting me down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's getting me down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's getting me down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's getting me down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's getting me down.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't take much more of this I know that.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I know that I can't take much more of this.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's taking all the good out of me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Nothing seems to help. I've tried everything.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Instead of getting better I seem to be getting worse.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over that again.

PC: Instead of getting better I seem to be getting worse.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Instead of getting better I seem to be getting worse.

LRH: Okay. Next line.

PC: (very softly) Instead of getting better I seem to be getting worse. (pause) I'll be glad
when this is over and I don't have to suffer anymore.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Everything happens to me. If it isn't one thing, it's another.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't tell anybody.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't tell anyone. They're asking too many questions over this. I'll just have to go
through with this by myself. I'm sick and tired of the way they keep bothering me.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over that again.

PC: I Me got my hands full I guess. I've got my hands full.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I Me got my hands full

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I Me got my hands full

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I Me got my hands full

LRH: Continue. Next line.

PC: There is no next line. I'm not getting anything.

LRH: I'm not getting anything. Go over that.

PC: I'm not getting anything. I'm not getting anything.

LRH: What's the phrase?

PC: I'm not getting anything out of this but heartaches.

LRH: Okay. Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anything out of this but heartaches. All the way around. (grunts)

LRH: That's right. All the way around.

PC: Right.

LRH: Hah.



PC: Why didn't she'say in a circle? (pause) I'm not getting any other words there.

LRH: All right. Go over that. All I'm getting out of this.

PC: All I'm getting out of this is a lot of heartaches all the way around.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: All I'm getting out of this is a lot of heartache all the way around.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: All I'm getting out of this is a lot of heartache all the way around. (pause; inhales
sharply, belch)

LRH: Go over it again, dear.

PC: All I'm getting out of this is a lot of heartache all the way around.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Everybody else is perfectly happy but I have to suffer. Oh, no.

LRH: Go over it again, dear.

PC: Everyone else is perfectly happy but I have to suffer.

LRH: Continue.

PC: They don't have to suffer so what do they care?

LRH: Continue.

PC: As long as they don't have to go through it, it doesn't make any difference to them.
Why should they care?

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's a hard, cruel world. It's each man for himself.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I get the word selfish here. It certainly is a selfish world.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It certainly is a selfish world. Each man for himself.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Seems to be the end.

LRH: Okay, honey. Let's pick up that first line, or there may be something a little earlier on
that. Let's see if we can't pick up a somatic with this this time as we run it on through.

PC: You know I don't hear these words. They come to me uery easily but I don't hear
them.



LRH: Okay. That's all right. Let's not worry about it.

PC: All right. I just wanted you to know.

LRH: Well, you might as well know That'sometimes the basic mechanism of recording isn't
good clearly defined words.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Let's run it.

PC: (pause) I'm not getting anyplace.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace.

LRH: What's her emotion as she'says these words?

PC: Frustration as though I'm stuck.

LRH: Huh?

PC: I feel as though I'm stuck.

LRH: Stuck with what? You mean stuck physically?

PC: Yeah, I just feel as though I'm not getting anyplace.

LRH: Well, go over it again.

PC: It makes me feel discouraged.

LRH: Let's go over those lines.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace. I'm not getting anyplace. I'm not getting anyplace. I'm not
getting anyplace. I'm not getting anyplace.

LRH: Contact it. Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace. (belch) Pardon me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace. (inhale, belch) I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace. I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace. I don't know what to do.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not getting anyplace....

LRH: Contact it, contact That'somatic.

PC: (belch) I'm not getting anyplace. I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: How much worse can Ifeel?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't think there's anything that they can do for me, and I don't want to tell them. Oh,
no! (groans)

LRH: All right, just keep rolling, honey.

PC: (whimper) Oh, I don't think there `s anything they can do to relieve me. I've tried
everything and nothing seems to work. How much longer can this go on? I'm getting
weaker and weaker. (Oh, this is a beauty.)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (deep breath)

LRH: Do we have another somatic? Is this another incident?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Keep rolling, honey.

PC: I'm just picking up more words.

LRH: All right. Keep rolling.

PC: I'm getting weaker and weaker. Can't go on much longer. I can't take it much longer.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (inhales, belch) Instead of getting better, I'm getting worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It isn't fair for one person to suffer this way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And I can't tell anyone about it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: They would only ask more questions. I'm sick and tired of all their questions. I'm sick
and tired of all the questions they've been asking as it is.

LRH: Sick and tired of all the questions they've been asking as it is.



PC: I'm sick and tired of all the questions they've been asking as it is.

LRH: (imitates prying questioner) How do you feel today, Mrs. Rosenberg? Now let's see,
do we have a little temperature? Now what happens to Mrs. Rosenberg? Go over that
last line again.

PC: I'm sick and tired of all the questions they've been asking me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm sick and tired of all these questions they `ve been asking me. I wish they `d leave
me alone.

LRH: Uh-huh. Let's go over that again.

PC: I wish they'd leave me alone.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I. wish they'd leave me alone.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's none of their business.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Can't keep anything to yourself around here.

LRH: Let's go over that.

PC: You can't keep anything to yourself around here.

LRH: Next line.

PC: That ought to develop easily.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You can't keep anything to yourself around here. All I hear are questions, questions,
questions. They're dying to know if I'm pregnant. Oh! They're dying to know if I'm
pregnant. And I'll be damned if I'll tell them yet. Oh, it's getting worse. (sobs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: They re dying to know if I'm pregnant (very softly) and I won't give them the
satisfaction, it's none of their business. I'll be damned if I'll tell them. (pause) Let them
find out when it's all over.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Let them find out when it s all over

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't understand it.

LRH: Continue. I can't understand it.



PC: I. can't und erstand it.

LRH: I can't understand it.

PC: I can't understand it. Some women go completely through a pregnancy without anyone
having the slightest notion about it. But around here they keep looking for signs.
(pause) I'll keep it a secret if it's the last thing I do. I'll keep it a secret if it kills me.

LRH: What's that?

PC: Oh, no, Ron! This is too much.

LRH: Come on.

PC: I'll keep it a secret if it kills me.

LRH: Okay.

PC: (whispers) Oh, no, I'll keep it a secret if it kills me. (sigh) I don't get any other words.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: From the beginning, you mean?

LRH: Hm-hm. No, from I'll keep it a secret if it kills me.

PC: I'll keep it a secret if it kills me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll keep it a secret if it kills me.

LRH: What's your own somatic on this? I'll keep it a secret if it kills me. What's your own
somatic?

PC: No somatic.

LRH: Hm? Well, contact it.

PC: A little nausea right in through here. The whole GI tract is disturbed.

LRH: Hm?

PC: My whole gastrointestinal tract just feels disturbed, that `s all. Its general motility.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: (belch) You see what I mean?

LRH: Hm-hm. What is she doing while shed monologuing here?

PC: My first impression is That'she's constipated.

LRH: All right. And what else?

PC: That's the only impression I've gotten. (paused suppose if you want to become
analytical you can consider it an AA too, although that never entered my mind.



LRH: No, I wasn't even considering it analytically.

PC: Hm ?

LRH: I wasn't considering it from that line. Are you sure we haven't jumped up the line to a
second one of these?

PC: You mean gone from one engram to another?

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: What we've got to get off is unconsciousness. So let's get earlier in the bank on this.
Let's go early, early, she doesn't even know she's pregnant.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Yeah, that's right, pregnant.

PC: (laughs) Stop pushing my buttons.

LRH: Your whole gastrointestinal tract is in bad shape.

PC: (laughs) Oh. (belch)

LRH: Now let's contact it, honey.

PC: What words do you want me to track this down with?

LRH: Track it down with I don't know. Try it in the earliest part of the bank. The earliest
moment it appears in the bank.

PC: I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Earliest part of the bank.

PC: (belch)

LRH: That's right, earliest part of the bank.

PC: I don't know. (whispers) I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Earliest moment that it appears in the bank. Your somatic strip will go straight to it.
Now what is it?

PC: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Earliest part of the bank. I don't know. First time it appears.

PC: (belch)

LRH: There we are. First time it appears there. I don't know.

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Go over that again.



PC: I don't know what's going on. I never felt this way before.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't know what's going on. I never felt this way before.

LRH: Contact the somatic on it.

PC: No somatic.

LRH: Well, go over it anyway.

PC: I don't know what's going on. I never felt this way before. I don't know what's wrong
with me, (whimper) I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm just not myself.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'm just not myself.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm just not myself. I'm just not myself.

LRH: Go over the line I keep throwing up.

PC: I keep throwing up

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I keep throwing up. I keep throwing up. I keep throwing up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I keepthrowingup Ikeepsomiting

LRH: I keep vomiting.

PC: I keep vomiting.

LRH: Go over it again. I keep vomiting. Go over it again.

PC: I keep vomiting (inhaling, belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I keep vomiting

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: A miserable failure. How much longer can it go on?

LRH: All right. Let's keep rolling, I keep vomiting.

PC: I keep vomiting

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I keep vomiting.

LRH: Let's start at the earliest moment it appears in the bank.

PC: I keep vomiting. I keep vomiting. I keep vomiting. I keep vomiting.

LRH: Earliest moment it appears in the bank. I keep vomiting.

PC: Iget the words I can't stop throwing up.

LRH: All right. Go on over that again.

PC: I can't stop throwing up I can't stop throwing up. I can't stop throwing up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I throw up all day long.

LRH: What was that?

PC: I throw up all day long.

LRH: Go over it, honey.

PC: I throw up all day long. I don't know what's wrong.

LRH: Continue. (long pause) Go over it again.

PC: I keep throwing up all day long.

LRH: Let's get a sonic on it.

PC: Im trying so hard.

LRH: Trying so hard.

PC: I'm trying so hard.

LRH: Continue. I'm trying so hard. Contact that. I'm trying so hard.

PC: To keep it down.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that again.

PC: I'm trying so hard to keep it down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I try so hard to keep it down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: But nothing helps. (moan)

LRH: Let's contact this sequence now. How early is this in the bank?

PC: Igot the flash number two.



LRH: Hm? .

PC: Two.

LRH: Well, let's see if we can run it now. Let's see if we can run it. Shift over into your
mother's valence. Shift over into your mother's valence and don't worry about what the
words are, just let out this steady line of complaint. Mimic her voice, mimic how she
feels, what she is saying. Shift into your mother's valence.

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Just keep going.

PC: Never felt myself this way before.

LRH: Okay.

PC: This is something new.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I just feel sick all day long without any reason.

LRH: Just keep rolling. Be your mother, dear.

PC: (inhaling, belch)

LRH: Then what do you do as your mother?

PC: Probably belch.

LRH: All right. Go on.

PC: I don't know what it is, I can't understand it.

LRH: Go on. As your mother. Just keep rolling; don't listen, just roll this stuff.

PC: At first I thought it might have been something I ate.

LRH: Where are you standing while you are doing this? It doesn't matter, just pick up a point.
Where are you standing?

PC: I'm not. I'm sitting down.

LRH: You're sitting down. Where?

PC: I'm sitting down in a lounge chair.

LRH: And how do you feel?

PC: Horrible.

LRH: Okay. Sit down in that lounge chair and be in your mother's valence. Now let's run this
through right at the moment it's occurring. (pause) Go on, now you know it.

PC: I don't like what's going on.

LRH: Go on. Be very whiny about it.



PC: I don't know what's going on. I never felt this way before in my life. I can't
understand it. Something's wrong. I can feel it in my bones.

LRH: Keep going and complain about it.

PC: I just know something is wrong.

LRH: Just go on and complain about it. Life is just too terrible. (pause) Go on.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Continue sitting there in the lounge chair, complaining. What would you be doing with
your hands while you were sitting there complaining?

PC: Got them over my belly.

LRH: And what would you be doing with them?

PC: I'm holding my belly.

LRH: Yeah. And what would you be saying?

PC: I wish I knew what was going on. I wish I knew what was wrong. I hate to * feel like
this. Maybe something I ate didn't agree with me. But I shouldn't feel this way for such
a long time.

LRH: Go on, keep on complaining.

PC: I'm just miserable. I wonder if I ought to go to the doctor? I won't tell anyone. (belch)

LRH: What would you be doing at that moment while you are sitting there in the lounge chair?

PC: Belching.

LRH: Uh-huh. Well, go on.

PC: I won t tell anyone. I really ought to go and put a stop to this (inhaling, belch) before it
gets the better of me.

LRH: Hm-hm. Go on. Go ahead and complain about it.

PC: I wonder if its possible that I might be pregnant? I don't even want to think about it. Oh
God, no, I don't even want to think about it.

LRH: Go ahead.

PC: That would be too much.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sigh) That would be too much to bear.

LRH: Continue complaining.



PC: Don't know where I'm getting all this stuff that I am. I am not getting any words on
this stuff.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I don't get any words.

LRH: That's all right, you're in your mother's valence.

PC: Oh.

LRH: Let it all out. Sit there in the lounge chair and feel so sorry for yourself. (puts quauer
into voice) Oh, I'm so sick. Go ahead.

PC: Oh, that would be more than I could stand.

LRH: Sit there and feel sad about it.

PC: I better do something about this right away. I better not waste another minute. This
might be more serious than I realised. (inhaling, belching noises)

LRH: Go ahead. Feel sad about it. Do you feel worried?

PC: Oh, sure.

LRH: Feeling awfully worried, distraught. Life is too cruel. Go on.

PC: I won t tell anyone I'm going to the doctor. The sooner the better. Now I'm really
scared. I never thought about being pregnant before. Oh God, euerything's happening
to me at once.

LRH: Go over that, honey.

PC: Everything s happening to me at once.

LRH: All right. Everything's happening to me at once.

PC: Euerythings happening to me at once. (yawn) Euerything's happening to me at once.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Euerythings happening to me at once

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Euerythings happening to me at once. Euerything's happening to me at once.
Euerything's happening to me at once.

LRH: Got a somatic?

PC: I get the sensation That'she's crying. I don't hear her.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: She sounds quite hysterical as a matter of fact.

LRH: Go over it again. Where would the somatic be if it were there?



PC: I have a slight pressure in my head right here.

LRH: Your head and where else?

PC: (inhales, belch) Euerything's happening to me at once. Damn nausea.

LRH: Nausea. Go over nausea.

PC: Nausea. Nausea. (belch)

LRH: Nausea. Nausea.

PC: Nausea.

LRH: Nausea.

PC: Nausea. Nausea. (inhaling, belch) Nausea.

LRH: Nausea. Go over it again.

PC: (whimper) Nausea. Nausea. Nausea. Nausea. Nausea. Nausea. Nausea. Nausea.
Nausea.

LRH: Diarrhea now. Go over the word diarrhea.

PC: Diarrhea. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. (inhales, belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's all tied up. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. Diarrhea.

LRH: What's the full phrase?

PC: Nausea and d iarrhea.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Nausea and diarrhea.

LRH: Everything's happening to me at once. Go over that.

PC: Everything s happening to me at once. Nausea and diarrhea at the same time. Oh, no.

LRH: Go over it again, dear.

PC: Oh, everything's happening to me at once. I've got nausea and diarrhea at the same
time. It couldn't be any worse.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It couldn't be any worse.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (yawn) It couldn't be any worse.

LRH: Now go over Everything's happening.



PC: Everything s happening to me at once (inhales, belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Everythings happening to me at once. I've got nausea and diarrhea at the same time. It
couldn't be worse.

LRH: Repeat the line I've got to keep it from hurting me so.

PC: If only there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: All right. Go over that again.

PC: If only there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: Go over the rest of it.

PC: If only there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (very weakly) If only there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (more strongly) If only there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: This is too much.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it.

PC: This is too much.

LRH: Go over, If only there was something I could do about the pain.

PC: I wish there was something I could do about the pain. I wish there was something I
could do about the pain.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause; belch) I wish there was something I could do about the pain. That's the worst
part of it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: That's the worst part of it.

LRH: I wish there was something I could do about the pain.

PC: I wish there was something I could do about the pain. I wish there was something I
could do about the pain.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I wish there was something I could do about the pain.



LRH: Next line.

PC: I wish there was something I could do about the pain.

LRH: Next line.

PC: It's unbearable.

LRH: Hah?

PC: It's unbearable.

LRH: Unbearable? Go over it again.

PC: It's unbearable.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's unbearable.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's unbearable.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't think there's anything worse.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (belch) It's unbearable. I don't think there's anything worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's unbearable. I don't think there's anything worse.

LRH: What else?

PC: The pains are killing me.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: The pains are killing me. (belch) And I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: The pains are killing me and I don't know what to do. The pains are killing me and I
don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: And there's nothing I can do. The pains are killing me and there's nothing I can do.

LRH: Pearl?

PC: Hm?



LRH: Can we find basic-basic in your case? Shift back in your own valence. Can we find
basic-basic in your case?

PC: I'd love to.

LRH: Well, the first moment of pain or unconsciousness, gee whiz, we're right down in that
area. It ought to be very easy to locate. We're getting yawns off and so forth. So we
ought to be able to get down to basic-basic and watch the dam thing come right on up
the line. Go ahead. (pause) You ought to be able to go down and contact it. The basic.
Overall pressure. Overall pressure. Early, early, early, early, early. Overall pressure.
Contact that overall pressure. Early, early, early, early, early.

PC: (pause; belch)

LRH: Is that basic-basic?

PC: I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine.

LRH: Has basic-basic got a bouncer in it?

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

LRH: Let's run over it again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Ooh, I get a funny feeling here. Oh!

LRH: Run over it again.

PC: There's something here all about a rubber ball that just rolled down.

LRH: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

PC: You never talked to me like that

before. I could have sworn That'something fell across my chest.

LRH: My stomach is doing the talking for me.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. Oh, it was the greatest sensation.

LRH: Come on, let's contact that. My stomach is doing the talking for me.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. My stomach is doing the talking for me. My
stomach is doing the talking for me. My stomach is doing the talking for me.

LRH: Let's get audio on this.



PC: What?

LRH: Let's get sonic on this.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. My stomach is doing the talking for me. My
stomach is doing the talking for me. (belch) My stomach is doing the talking for me.
(belch)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. My stomach is doing the talking for me.
(belch, cough)

LRH: Now let's go over that.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. (belch) Hem.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. Quite a conversationalist.

LRH: All right. What is this?

PC: It's carrying on quite a conversation right now.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that.

PC: (pause; belch) My stomach is doing the talking for me. Seems to be carrying on quite a
conversation.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. (yawns) It seems to be carrying on quite a
conversation.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. (belch) It seems to be carrying on quite a
conversation. Somebody is replying, because those aren't all her words.

LRH: Catch the words. (pause) Catch the words and the sound of that belch, or whatever it
is. From the underside now, catch the sound of that belch.

PC: (pause; belch) Damn, I'm still in her valence.

LRH: All right. Catch the sound of that belch. Now go over that again, My stomach is doing
the talking for me.

PC: My stomach is doing the talking for me. It looks like my stomach is doing the talking
for me.

LRH: What comes after that? A belch. Let's contact and hear that thing.

PC: It looks like my stomach is doing all the talking for me tonight. It's quite embarrassing.

LRH: Let's roll that again. Catch the belch.



PC: It looks like my stomach is doing all the talking.

LRH: How does the belch sound from underneath? (pause) Come on, let's try and contact
how the belch sounds from underneath.

PC: It looks like my stomach is doing all the talking.... (belch, cough) My stomach is
talking for me. I don't have to say a word. My stomach is doing all the talking. I don't
have to say a word.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll it again. Let's pick up the belch and feel your compression
simultaneously now. Let's get one belch out of this belch chain.

PC: Gee, nothing would please me more.

LRH: All right.

PC: (belches)

LRH: Let's go back to that first belch, whether it's at My stomach is doing the talking for me
or not. Let's go to the first belch that causes you any discomfort. The first belch that
causes you any discomfort. (pause) Contact it. Contact it. The basic in the belch chain.
Contact that first belch. You'll contact it in a moment. When I snap my fingers you'll be
right there, the first basic in the belch (snap!).

PC: (exhales)

LRH: Go over that belch again now. (pause) Go right through it. Go one minute before the
belch happens. One minute before the belch happens, the first belch on the whole line.
One minute before it happens, thirty seconds before it happens, two seconds before it
happens, all right. Now, one minute before it happens....

PC: (hiccups)

LRH: Is there an earlier one? (pause) One minute before it happens, one minute before the
first one happens, one minute before the first one happens. Come on through with it.

PC: Gone.

LRH: What?

PC: Not there anymore.

LRH: Let's contact it again.

PC: I'm lost.

LRH: What?

PC: It went away.

LRH: Now go over that, It went away.

PC: It went away

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It went away.



LRH: The pain across there, it went away.

PC: The pain across there, it went away.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: The pain across there, it went away.

LRH: Contact that.

PC: The pain across there, it went away.

LRH: Contact it again

PC: (belch)

LRH: All right.

PC: It's just tough slugging.

LRH: What?

PC: Oh, it's tough slugging.

LRH: Let's go over it again. Pain across there.

PC: Pain across there. It went away.

LRH: Pain across there.

PC: Pain across there, it went away.

LRH: Just say, A pain across there.

PC: Pain across there. The pain across there. Pain across there. Pain across there. (belch)
The pain across there.

LRH: Now what? What's the next phrase?

PC: It went away.

LRH: It went away.

PC: Pain across there--

LRH: Belch.

PC: The pain across there. (belch) It went away.

LRH: It went away.

PC: It went away

LRH: It's gone. It went away.

PC: It went away (belch) Oof

LRH: Now get That'sequence.



PC: The pain across there. My voice is getting brief. Chest pain is kind of foggy

LRH: Hm?

PC: My voice is changing.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll across that line. Pain across there.

PC: The pain across there. The pain across there. (clears throat)

LRH: Let's go over that.

PC: The pain across there. It went away.

LRH: Pick up the belch with it.

PC: The pain across there. (belch) It went away.

LRH: Let's go over that again. Contact it solidly.

PC: The pain across there. (belch) It went away. It must just have been a little gas. (yawn)

LRH: Roll that again.

PC: Must just have been a little gas. Must have been just a little gas.

LRH: Let's contact it and get the belch now.

PC: (belch) Oof, the pain across there went away. It must have been just a little gas. (belch)
I'm full of them.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: What, I'm full of them? (sounds amused)

LRH: Yes.

PC: I'm full of them. I'm full of them.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm full of them.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm full of them. I'm full of them.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm full of them. I'm full of them. (yawn)

LRH: Go over it again. I'm full of them. Contact it.

PC: I'm full of them. I'm full of them. (belch) I'm full of them. I'm full of them. I'm full of
them. (belch) I'm full of them. I'm full of them. I'm full of them. I'm full of them. I'm
full of them.



LRH: Now let's contact the first second. The somatic strip's going to contact the first second,
the first instant now of basic-basic. First instant of basic-basic. The first instant.

PC: (breathes deeply)

LRH: What have you got there? (pause) Contact it. (pause) Let it roll through. Just roll it all
on through. Roll it on through.

PC: (belch) Oh, no.

LRH: Go over that Oh, no.

PC: Oh, no. Not again. (belch) Oh, no. Not again.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, no. Not again.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, no. Not again. (belch, sigh) Oh, no, not again. Oh, no, not again.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, no, not again. (belch)

LRH: Now let's get the first one in That'sequence.

PC: Oh, no. Not again. (belch)

LRH: Let's get the first belch. (pause) The first belch. (pause) The somatic strip's right there.
Let's contact it now.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Then what comes? What's the next phrase? The phrases right after it?

PC: (whimper)

LRH: What are the phrases right there?

PC: I He been like this all day.

LRH: What?

PC: I He been like this all day. (belch)

LRH: Been like this all day. Honey, I want you to go now to the first belch that disturbs you
as an embryo, a zygote. The first belch that disturbs you as a zygote, the first one.
Number one! (pause) Are you there? Now roll it. Contact that first one. Roll it, go
ahead. Re-experience it.

PC: Can't.

LRH: What?

PC: I can't.



LRH: Why not?

PC: I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I. can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't I don't feel anything. (belch)

LRH: Let's get the phrase that comes just before I can't, I don't feel anything. The somatic
strip is right up there. What's the phrase just before it?

PC: (yawn; pause) I don't like it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't like it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't like it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, take it away

LRH: What?

PC: Take it away

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (belch) Take it away.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Take it away

LRH: Next line.

PC: My leg is starting to itch. I don't like it. Take it away. (gasp) My right leg! I don't like
it. Take it away.

LRH: Go over that now.

PC: I don't like it. Take it away.

LRH: Next line.

PC: Please, I can t

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't feel anything.

LRH: Let's go over that entire sequence now.

PC: (breathing deeply)

LRH: Go over the sequence.

PC: Please. I don't like it.

LRH: Come on, let's pick up the other voice. There's somebody else there. What's somebody
else saying?

PC: An, come on.

LRH: Aw, yes, I thought so. Now lets roll that Aw, come on.

PC: An, come on. Aw, come on, don't be like that. An, come on, don't be like that. An,
come on, don't be like that. Don't be that way. An, come on, don't be that way. (belch)
An, come on. Don't be that way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: An, come on, don't be that way.

LRH: Contact that voice. You're giving me a flock of rephrase here. Get on that line with
those phrases. Contact the voice. Contact the somatic. Sure you itch.

PC: I do, I itch all over.

LRH: All right. What is it?

PC: (yawn)

LRH: What is it?

PC: The somatic?

LRH: No. I want the voice.



PC: Oh.

LRH: Contact that voice. The somatic strip's right there.

PC: (pause) I can hear my father's voice.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it.

PC: An, come on, don't be that way.

LRH: Then what occurs?

PC: Don t be that way. (belch) An, come on.

LRH: Let's go over the engram.

PC: An, come on, don't be that way. (pause) Let's have a little love.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: (belch) Let's have a little love.

LRH: All right. Let's get the first words spoken in this basic sequence. The somatic strip is
going right to the beginning of the basic sequence now, and you're going to hear the
first words spoken. (pause) The first word that was spoken.

PC: Please. Please. (pause; belch)

I don't feel like it.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't feel like it. (yawns) I don't feel like it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm too tired.

LRH: What?

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Let's roll it.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired. I'm so tired.



LRH: Who's saying it?

PC: Mother.

LRH: Well, contact her saying it.

PC: I'm too tired. I'm so tired tonight.

LRH: Let's contact the thing now.

PC: I'm too tired. (belch)

LRH: Now what occurs?

PC: (belch) She's belching.

LRH: Okay. So she belches

PC: Besides my stomach is a little upset

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; grunt) I've got a pain.

LRH: All right. Get I've got a pain.

PC: I ve got a pain. My knee hurts.

LRH: I've got a pain. My knee hurts.

PC: I ve got a pain. My knee hurts.

LRH: Come on. Let's get this frigid dame's big bunch of alibis for Papa. Now come on. Pick
it up there at the beginning of the sequence. (pause) Go on, pick it up at the beginning
of the sequence and roll it on through. Straight in there. Let's roll it. What happens next
there?

PC: I ache all over

LRH: What?

PC: I ache all over.

LRH: Okay. Go over that.

PC: I ache all over

LRH: Go on.

PC: I ache all over

LRH: What else has she got to say for herself?

PC: I don't feel well tonight.



LRH: Come on.

PC: What's wrong with you? Oh, I ache all over. And besides I'm sick to my stomach.
Where the hell is the itching coming from?

LRH: Continue.

PC: Feels as though something's crawling all over me.

LRH: They say crawl?

PC: They say crawl (whispering) They say crawl.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the beginning of it now. Let's roll it on through this now.

PC: I ve got a headache.

LRH: I've got a headache, go over that.

PC: I ve got a headache.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I ve got a headache. Oh, please, not tonight. I've got a headache.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, I don't believe you. Come on, let's have a little love. This will make you feel
better. (belch)

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: Oh, I'll fix you up so you al forget all about that headache. It's the best thing in the
world for it.

LRH: Okay. Continue. (pause) Let's roll it again. I'll fix you up.

PC: I'll fix you up. I'll fix you up like you've never been fixed before.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I'll fix you up like you've never been fixed before. You'll forget all about that
headache. Oh, there's a forgetter in here too.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over that.

PC: I'll fix you up like you've never been fixed before. You'll forget all about that
headache.

LRH: Now let's get this first Come on.

PC: Come on. I've got the best medicine in the world for that headache. (breathes deeply)

LRH: Go over that Come on.

PC: Come on. Come on.



LRH: Continue.

PC: come on. Come on. (pause)

LRH: Huh?

PC: I'm not getting the next words.

LRH: What's Mama doing here? (pause) Come on. What's Mama doing? What does Papa
want?

PC: Papa wants to make love and Mama says no.

LRH: And what is Mama using as an alibi?

PC: She's got a headache.

LRH: And what else?

PC: She doesn't feel well. She's sick to her stomach.

LRH: All right. What else?

PC: She aches all over. She's a mess.

LRH: What else? When does Papa say she's a mess? (pause) Well, go on. When does he get
disgusted?

PC: For crying out loud. You're a mess. You're not any fun. You're always bellyaching.
There it goes again, you're always bellyaching.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: (mutters) Damn.... (knock on the door)

LRH: (aside) Come in.

LRH: (to PC) Go back to the beginning of the incident.

PC: Oh, no.... (sound of someone entering)

LRH: Go back to the beginning of the thing.

PC: You're always bellyaching.

LRH: Go back to the beginning of the thing.

PC: (belch)

[another voice in background]

LRH: All right. You will know about this the next time you go through this?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Come on. Present time.

PC: Yes.



LRH: Present time. We can contact that thing.

PC: Gee whiz, I hope so.

LRH: All right. Bob's going to take you through the rest of it. I'm sure that must be a beauty.
Where do you think that is on the time track?

PC: Let's see, probably at the bottom.

LRH: Probably at the bottom?

PC: I know you asked for the bottom and the file clerk's usually pretty cooperative.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Thank you very much.

LRH: Sure.

Session, 10 June 1950

LRH: Okay. What we want here is a good fast release if we can get one.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Close your eyes. How old are you?

PC: 15.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the 15 year old incident. (pause) When I count from one to five the
exact words on which you're sitting there will flash right straight through into your
mind. One-two-threefour-five (snap!).

PC: She's so slow.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: She's so slow. I know the incident.

LRH: What is it?

PC: Oh, boy. I bet this will have to be run out as an engram. I was hysterical for about six
or eight hours. I overheard a conversation between my mother and my aunt, her sister.
Her sister is visiting us, and they are talking about me in front of me. My mother is
saying, I don't know what to do with her. She's so slow. Everything she does takes
her so long before she gets there. I resent it to such an extent that I rush into the room
and cry it all out.

LRH: Can you go over it again?

PC: (sigh) I'm not getting any fresh words. She's so slow. Everything she does takes her
all day to do it.

LRH: Let's go back over that again. How does your mother look when she's saying these
words? Let's roll it again.

PC: I can't see her.



LRH: Let's roll it again. (pause) Go over the words. She's so slow.

PC: Oh, may I ask you a question, please?

LRH: What?

PC: I had a terrible feeling last night that the case was so snarled up that it might take
something like 200 hours to undo the damage that had been done.

LRH: Well, that's nonsense.

PC: That's nonsense, good. I think that's what scared me. It was something I read in the
Handbook. Okay.

LRH: Well, that's in the book just to scare people into doing cases straight.

PC: Good enough.

LRH: Now, let's contact this. She's so slow. It just takes her forever to get anything done.

PC: She's so slow. I can't understand it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She's so slow it takes her all day to do something. She just walks around in a daze. I
don't know. I haven't got the correct words here. The whole incident is not clear to me.
I'm not there. I'm not in any of these engrams, Ron. I'm just telling you something out
of my memory. I know it. I am not regressed there, I'm not getting any perceptics. I
don't see or hear anything. I'm just telling you about it.

LRH: She's so slow. Let's go over that line.

PC: She's so slow. (sigh) She's so slow. I think that comes from my birth. I ran that out
with Arnold.

LRH: Well, go over it.

PC: (whispers) She's so slow.

LRH: You ran what out?

PC: I didn't run out the engram. I ran out the first part of my birth.

LRH: When did he run out your birth?

PC: The first time he ever ran me, it came right up. He didn't look for it, it came up.

LRH: Has he ever been back?

PC: No. I must block him. (laughs) He ran it for about two and a half hours.

LRH: All right. Let's go over this.

PC: She's so slow. She's so slow. She's so slow. (sigh) She's so slow. She's so slow.

LRH: It takes her forever to get anything done.



PC: It takes her all day to get anything done.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: It takes her all day to get anything done.

LRH: Do the words run down appear here?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. It takes her all day to get anything done. Let's go over that.

PC: It takes her all day to get anything done.

LRH: All right. Where does your mama say, Come down here or Come back here? (pause)
Come back here?

PC: (laughs loudly) Come back here, you're not finished yet.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Come back here, you're not finished yet.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Come back here, you're not finished yet.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Come back here, you're not finished yet.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Come back here, you're not finished yet. (breathes) Come back here, you're not
finished yet.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Come back here, you're not finished yet.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (whispers) Come back here, you're not finished yet. (aloud) Come back here, you're
not finished yet.

LRH: Have you got any older brothers or sisters?

PC: No, I'm the oldest.

LRH: That's right. All right, honey. Let's go to your grandmother's death.

PC: (pause) What part?

LRH: Right at the moment you'received the news of her death.

PC: I hear Arnold saying, Where the hell were you? Didn't you hear me calling you? It's a
long distance phone call from Hartford, it `s Debbie. I'm saying, What's the matter?
Oh God, I feel silly. It's so hard to regress when you're--.



LRH: Continue. What's she saying?

PC: Hello, Debbie. What's the matter? What's the matter? Bobbie died. Oh, I can't believe
it. (yawns)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't believe it. (yawns)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't believe it. Isn't that funny, I was expecting it and yet now that it has happened I
can't believe it. (pause) I actually thought she'd go on living forever. (pause) I just
thought she'd never ever die. I always thought That'she'd go on living forever.

LRH: Continue. What's Debbie saying?

PC: I'm saying, When did it happen? Just now, about 15 minutes ago. Mother was right
there, she just called me. And I called you right away. (yawn or sigh) Ooh. When is the
funeral? Probably be tomorrow but I don't know what time. I don't know anything, it
only just happened.

LRH: Continue. Don't know anything.

PC: Hm?

LRH: So roll it. Don't know anything.

PC: I don't know anything yet.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I called you right away.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Will you call Harry Miller and the girls for me?

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: (pause; loud sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (long pause; some whimpers) Sure, I'll be glad to. Is there anything else I can do?

LRH: Continue.

PC: You know, gee, I'm sorry I've kept you waiting. I was upstairs and I didn't hear the
phone. I can't get over it, I just can't believe it. (pause) How is your mother?

LRH: Run I can't get over it.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Early.



PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Early.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Early.

PC: (pause; yawn) I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Contact it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I can't get over it.

LRH: Contact it earlier.

PC: (pause) I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (tears in voice) Oh, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. (belch) Oh, excuse me.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: I feel so sick.

PC: I feel so sick

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick. Oh, (yawn) I can't get over it. I feel so sick.

LRH: Next line. (pause) Go over that. Can't get over it. I feel so sick.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (belch) I can't get over it. I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick. I can't get over it. (yawns) I can't get over it. I feel so
sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick. I can't get over it. I feel so sick. I can't get over it.
(whispers) I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't get over it. I feel so sick. (belch)

LRH: Come on, what's the next line, honey?

PC: I feel so sick I'm sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it, oh, I'm sick.

[gap in recording]

LRH: When did this start happening?

PC: This morning.

LRH: Go on over this. I can't get over it.

PC: I can't get over it. I can't get over it. (loudly) I can't get over it. (whispers) I'm just
sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I'm just sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I'm just sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I'm just sick. I can't get over it. I'm just sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I'm just sick. I can't get over it. I'm just sick.

LRH: Next line. (pause) One-two-three-four-five (snap!).



PC: I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I don't know what to do. (yawn, sigh) I don't know what to do. I don't know what to
do.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: (tearful, resigned tone of voice) I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I
don't know what to do.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (deep breath) I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. (sigh)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what to say.

LRH: Next line. (pause) One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's such a shock. (pause; yawn) Oh, it's such a shock. Such a shock.

LRH: Continue.



PC: (pause; few mutterings under breath, loud sigh) Oh, it's such a shock. I can't get over
it. I can't get over it. I can't get over it. (louder, tearfully) I'm just saying these words.
I don't know if they're right or not, I don't hear anybody saying them.

LRH: Go over that. I don't know. What is the next line after this? Come on. One-two-three-
four-five (snap!).

PC: (yawn, sigh)

LRH: One-two-three-four-five (snap!). Next line.

PC: Something about being sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm sick (mutters under breath)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; yawning) What are we going to do now? What are we going to do now?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What are we going to do now?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What are we going to do now?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What are we going to do now? (pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (breathing)

LRH: Pick it up at I can't get over it.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Contact that. I can't get over it.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it. I can't get over it. (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: All right. Give the words just before this one. The somatic strip will move back a few
seconds earlier. Now give me the words just before this I can't get over it. One-two-
three-four-five (snap!). (pause) Come on, the words just before it.

PC: Oh, no

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: Oh, no

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, no

LRH: Next line.

PC: I can't get over it.

LRH: All right. Let's get the words before I don't know. The words just before I don't know.
One-two-three-four-five. Give me the words just before I don't know. (pause) One-
two-three-four-five (snap!). They'll flash into your mind. (brief pause) I can't believe
it.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I don't know. I'm just saying
words, and they may not mean anything.

LRH: Words, they don't mean anything. Words, they don't mean anything.

PC: Words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again. Words, they don't mean anything.

PC: Words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: They're just words, they don't mean anything.

PC: They're just words, they don't mean anything.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: They're just words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: They're just words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: They're just words, they don't mean anything.

LRH: Contact that. Go over it again.

PC: They're just words, they don't mean anything. You're just saying that. But you're just
saying that.

LRH: Okay. Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying that. You're just saying that, it isn't true. You're kidding.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It isn't true, you're kidding, you're just saying that.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's something like that, but I don't know what it is.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're not telling the truth.

LRH: What?

PC: You're not telling the truth.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: You're not telling the truth. I don't believe you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're not telling the truth. I don't believe you.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Please don't kid me.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Please don't kid me. This is no time to joke with me. You shouldn't say that.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Please don't kid me. This is no time to joke with me. You shouldn't--.

LRH: Go on.

PC: You shouldn't say that.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You shouldn't say that.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You shouldn't say that.

LRH: Next line. (pause) Next line.

PC: (sobbing)I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know. (coughs) I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I don't know whether to believe you or not.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know whether to believe you or not.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whimper) No.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (small sounds) I can't, I'm not in this thing.



LRH: Go on over I can't.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't . I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I can't. I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Can't what? Go over it again.

PC: Can't. I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I can't. I can't.

LRH: Next line. I can't.

PC: I don't want to.

LRH: What?

PC: I don't want to.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't. I don't want to.

LRH: I can't believe you.

PC: I can't believe you.

LRH: I can't believe you.

PC: I can't believe anything you tell me.

LRH: Go on.

PC: (pause) I `m desperate.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (breathing, small noises)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I never know whether you're telling me the truth or not.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Why do you tease me?

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: I don't know what I'm saying here.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't even know what I'm saying.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's no use.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's no use.

LRH: No use what? It's no use....

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Continue. .

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know what's going on.

LRH: Go over it again. Continue.

PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's too much for me.

LRH: Is this the same engram?

PC: (whimper) No, it's just a lot of words. I just keep saying a lot of different things. I
don't know what I'm saying. I don't know whether they go together or if it's an
engram or what it is. I'm just saying words.

LRH: How about contacting the beginning of that. Oh no, I can't believe it. Don't tell me. Say
it isn't so.

PC: (sigh) Oh no, I can't believe it. That's the trouble, I don't contact a damned thing, Ron.
You know I could point to other people who are really regressed and recall incidents. I
was never really regressed, in my opinion. I've never gotten perceptics, heard things,
seen things, touched things and been small and seen big adults. I've never really
regressed. I don't think I've ever really gotten into this thing with all the hours of
therapy. I just get words. I don't hear anybody saying them.

LRH: Oh, it was just bad therapy, that's all. Let's roll it, honey.

PC: (pause) I don't know. (sob)

LRH: Go on, honey.

PC: (crying) How can Iget well if I can't contact anything? Ijust roll words. (sigh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I don't know. (crying)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (sobbing)

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: How can I continue? I don't really know where I am. (sobbing, then louder) I don't
know what's going on. I don't know where I am. How can I continue?

LRH: I can't go on.



PC: I can't go on. I can't go on. I can't go on. (louder) I can't go on. (sobs in voice) I can't
go on. I can't go on.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on.

LRH: I just get worse.

PC: I just get worse.

LRH: Contact that.

PC: I can't go on. Ijust get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can `t go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on. Ijust get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can `t go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; cough) I can't go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse. (cough)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (pause; sob)

LRH: Next line. (brief pause) I can't go on. I just get worse.

PC: I can't go on. Ijust get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on. I just get worse.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's just words, Ron. (sobbing) I'm just saying words. (pants)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on.

LRH: Words.

PC: Words.

LRH: I'm just saying words.

PC: I'm just saying words. I'm just saying words. (sniffing)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm just saying words. They don't mean anything.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I'm just saying words. They don't mean anything. (revives somewhat) You're just
saying words. You're just saying words. They don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying words. They don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying words. They don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying words. They don't mean anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You're just saying words. They don't mean anything. You're just saying words. They
don't mean anything.

LRH: Who's dead? (pause) Who's dead? I can't believe it.

PC: I don't know. (sob in voice)

LRH: Go over I can't believe it.

PC: can't believe it.

LRH: I can't get over it.



PC: can't get over it. I can't believe it. I can't get over it. I can't believe it. I can't get over it.
(sob) Oh, God.

LRH: Go over that, I can't believe it. I can't get over it.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't get....

LRH: Oh, God! (small pause) Come on, Oh, God!

PC: Oh, God!

LRH: Go on. Contact the engram. Don't contact me.

PC: (sobs) Don't you think I'm trying?

LRH: I can't believe it. I can't get over it.

PC: I can't believe it. I can't get over it.

LRH: Contact your mama running that.

PC: Oh, come on.

LRH: You can! Right there. Now come on. Throw your beads into it. (pause) Come on.

PC: (breathes)

LRH: Throw your beads into it.

PC: (sobs)

LRH: I don't know.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: I don't know.

PC: I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Go on over it.

PC: I don't know what to say. I don't know. I feel so sick.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: No. (sob) I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, If eel so sick. I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (crying) I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know, If eel so sick.

LRH: Your somatic strip's going to contact your mother there. Roll it.

PC: (sobbing)

LRH: Come on, roll it. I don't know, I feel so sick.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Next line. (pause) Next line. (pause) Next line. (pause) I don't know, I feel so sick.

PC: I don't know, I feel so sick.

LRH: Is I can't get over it there?

PC: I don't know. I don't know anything.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I don't know anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know anything. I don't know anything.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know anything. I don't know anything. I don't know anything. I don't know
anything. (deep breath)



LRH: Next line. Let's roll that thing. You're right there with it. Let's roll it.

PC: I don't know anything.

LRH: Next line.

PC: What's going on here anyway?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What's going on here anyway? What's going on here anyway?

LRH: Next line.

PC: I'll never be able to do it.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to do it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to do it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to do it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to do it.

LRH: Contact that. Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Next line. (brief pause) Repeat I'll never be able to go through with it again.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Next line. Just swing right on through to the next line.



PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Swing right on through to the next line.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it. No. I f eel d opey. ( pause)

LRH: Let's roll it, honey.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I'll never be able to go through with it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: I don't know.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it.

PC: don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: don't know how I'll ever be able to go through with it.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: I don't know how I'll ever be able to go through with it. I don't know how I'll ever be
able to go through with it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (belch) I don't know how I'll ever be able to go through with it. (another belch)

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I don't know how I'll ever be able to go through with it.

LRH: Next line.

PC: (long pause) I don't know what happened to me. I just feel very relaxed. And I don't
feel like talking. (pause)

LRH: Listen.



PC: Um. (exhales)

LRH: Let's see if we can contact mother's receipt of this death. The motor strip can contact
the moment your mother receives word of this death. (brief pause) The moment she
receives word of this death. Prenatal, prenatal. The moment she receives word of this
death. (pause) I can't believe it.

PC: so relaxed

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: so relaxed.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: So relaxed. Oh, I feel so good, I don't have any pain anyplace or anything. I just feel
perfectly relaxed. (pause) Oh no, I can't go on, oh no, I can't go on. Oh no, I can't go
on. Oh no, I can't.

LRH: I feel perfectly relaxed. I feel so good. I feel perfectly relaxed.

PC: I feel so good. I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: Contact that incident.

PC: I feel so good. I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: Go over it.

PC: I feel so good. I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: What's the next line? Go over it again.

PC: (pause; belch) I feel so good.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I feel so good, I feel perfectly relaxed. (pause) I feel so good, I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so good, I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I feel so good. I feel perfectly relaxed.

LRH: Let's go a little earlier.

PC: I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I just want to lie here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just want to lie here.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just want to lie here. I feel so good. I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here.
(barely audible) I just want to lie here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just want to lie here.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here. I just want to lie here. I didn't know I was
in present time. I just want to lie here.

LRH: Present time. (pause) All the way up to present time. How old are you?

PC: 28. I didn't know I was in present time.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I didn't know I was in present time.

LRH: Well, I want to know what upsets you on the subject of your perceptics? Who upset
you?

PC: The more time I spend here, the more I realize that I don't think I've ever really
regressed.

LRH: All right. But who upset you?

PC: Well, when I was talking to Dawn.

LRH: Yah.

PC: She told me how she ran out her mother's death. She went over to the coffin and she
was a little girl and she was talking baby talk and she'says, Mommy's sleeping in the
box. And she could see her little hands and things like that. Well, I `we never had
perceptics. The first time I ran Arnold he could see the toilet. His head was on a level
with the toilet seat and he could see the linoleum and everything. I don't see anything
like that. Beyond your voice, I don't think I've been getting any perceptics. Do you
know that all the time I've ever been in so-called regression, all I have done is get and
run words? And they say, Next line, and I come up with the next line. I don't know if
it's imagination, if I'm making it up. I don't think I am. These words come very freely,
as you have seen.

LRH: Who has challenged the validity of your data?

PC: No one.

LRH: All right. Give me a flash answer.

PC: Arnold, I think.



LRH: Arnold does what?

PC: Arnold has questioned the validity of my data. The first time he did that I got furious
with him. We had a nice little to-do about it. He said, I want you to go earlier than this,
now. Or, You know that isn't true. I ran something about a Mrs. Goldberg. He says,
Now look, Pearl, you know your father didn't know Mrs. Goldberg when you were
that old. And I got very angry with him and said, Hell, it's a common name. There
could be more than one Mrs. Goldberg, or it could be some other name That'sounded
like that. And you have no right to question the validity of what I give you. You should
take what the file clerk gives you. But that has happened more than once.

LRH: Was that the first time it happened?

PC: Yes, that was the first time.

LRH: Take off your glasses. I thought something was very odd about this case. There's
something very strange about anybody who runs this much time. Okay. He questioned
the validity of your data.

PC: I felt this way when I was running with Bob. I felt they were just words.

LRH: I know. But you were running. And it was going along all right. And sooner or later
those perceptics would have turned on.

PC: They would have turned on, yeah.

LRH: Yes. All right. The questioning of validity of data is telling the person he is not right.
Therefore, it's a challenge of the computer and it's a dirty trick.

PC: Right.

LRH: And it's a violation of the Auditor's Code.

PC: That's very true.

LRH: And, in addition to that, has precipitated here a deterioration of your case. This can
happen to anybody. It isn't just peculiar to you. Shut your eyes. Go back to the time
Arnold is saying this. Now your motor strip will go there. I know where your motor
strip goes, whether you do or not. Your motor strip will go there. All right. What are
you running just before he does it?

PC: An argument between my mother and father.

LRH: Okay.

PC: My father's saying, I'm sick and tired of all this crap, sick and tired of all this crap you
keep handing me. This place looks like a pigsty. This place is a pigsty.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause; belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (whisper) This place is a pigsty.

LRH: Come on, just contact there what Arnold says, along the line. Wherever he cuts in.



PC: I `m saying, Look at Mrs. Gold berg, look at other wives. Why can't you be like other
wives? Look at Mrs. Goldberg. And he cuts in and says this.

LRH: Now what he's saying?

PC: I can't find out the right words.

LRH: Oh, yes, you can. Just roll it.

PC: Blank. (whines) Oh, I can't.

LRH: Can't what?

PC: I can't get his words. I don't know what he's saying.

LRH: Go on, what does he say?

PC: He's interrupting. He doesn't tell me this in regression, he tells me this after he brings
me up to present time.

LRH: Who cares?

PC: Because we started to argue in regression.

LRH: All right, when do you start to argue in regression?

PC: He realizes it's wrong so he brings me up to present time to tell me.

LRH: All right. When does he first start to argue with you in regression? (pause) Come on.
When I count from one to five, the first words he says in that argument will flash into
your mind, right there where they are. One-two-three-four-five(snap!). What's the first
word that flashed in? One-two-three-four-five.

PC: Pearl.

LRH: All right. Go over the word Pearl.

PC: Pearl.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Pearl. Pearl.

LRH: Come on. Get Arnold now. What is he saying? Pearl what?

PC: Oh, Pearl. These words aren't in there.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: These words aren t in there.

LRH: Let's go over that.

PC: (suddenly louder) No, just give me the words you get. And I say, These are the words
I get.

LRH: Continue. Get mad.



PC: These are the words I get.

LRH: Come on.

PC: No, they're not. These words don't belong here. That's what he's saying, These words
don't belong here. And I'm saying, How doyou know? It's my engram, nobody else
knows but me. It's not your engram, it's my engram. And these words are here. He's
saying, No, these words don't belong here. Ooh, he's a stinker, isn't he.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, these words don't belong here. Then he says, Now go back to the beginning of
this and run it with the right words this time. How the hell do you know what the right
words are? Were you there? And then I say, No, I won't run it because you say those
words aren't in it. Now you've got me all mixed up. How the hell do I know? Ooooh.
You've got me all mixed up, how the hell do I know? You say those words aren't there
and I keep getting those words and if I run them you'll say they don't belong here. He
brought me up to present time and said that we should discuss it intelligently. And then
he told me that my folks didn't know a Mrs. Goldberg at that time, so I really gave it to
him.

LRH: Okay. Let's go back to the beginning on this. Come on. Give him hell on this one now.
(pause) What does he say to you?

PC: Give it to me this time with all the right words. What do you mean? I'm giving you just
what I'm getting. Oh, these words don't belong here. He insisted I was running two
engrams at once and he just wanted one. He was damn persistent about it too. You're
running two engrams here and I want you to run the earliest one. Well, how the hell did
he know so much in such a little bit of time without reading the Handbook. The book
hadn't even come out then!

LRH: Okay. It's all right. (pause) Go over it again. What's he saying? Come on, you're
running this engram.

PC: Run it again. This time, he says, give me one engram. Give me the early one. What
are you talking about? I'm giving you everything I'm getting just as I'm getting it. I
was just rolling the words, they were coming very freely as I remember. And I was
highly indignant of being interrupted when they were coming so well. Arnold has a
tendency to do that, break me right up in the middle of a sentence.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Then I don't want to run for him, I refuse to run for him. And I'll argue in reverse and I
won't run things.

LRH: Now let's pick up this first incident where he bucked the Auditor's Code. Let's get sore
all over again. Let's be right there, get sore at him. You've got perfect license to. Go
on. (pause) Contact it, honey.

PC: No, this doesn't belong here.

LRH: Boy,is he wrong! Go on, roll it.

PC: How the hell do you know it doesn't belong here. Of course it belongs here. I'm
running it. Those are the words I've got and I'm giving them to you. You're supposed
to take them. But it doesn't belong here. How the hell do you know? It's my engram
and I'm the only one who knows. (burp)



LRH: Continue.

PC: No, but it just doesn't belong here. Now run it and just give me what's really there.

LRH: Continue.

PC: No, I won't run it.

LRH: Give him hell.

PC: I won't run it.

LRH: What does he say there?

PC: You're not running me right. You're supposed to take everything the file clerk gives
you. The file clerk knows what he's doing. If it wasn't in here I wouldn't run it.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Come on, give him hell. You know what he says there. (pause) You
know what he says there, honey.

PC: That's the trouble, I don't. I'm not getting it.

LRH: Huh?

PC: I'm not getting it.

LRH: You probably skidded down the track to where the other engram was. Now let's come
up to the time when Arnold is talking to you.

PC: He says, That doesn't belong here.

LRH: Continue.

PC: What do you mean, that doesn't belong here. Sure it does. No, it doesn't. Now look,
Pearl, go back and run the engram and give me just what's there. Wait a minute. What
are you trying to do here, ruin my engram? You're supposed to take what I give you.
Now look, Pearl, you do as I say. I'm the auditor. Now, he's trying not to argue with
me in regression.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Go back to the beginning of this engram and run it again. How can I run it? You don't
believe anything I give you anyway. You don't want to accept it. What's the use of my
running it? You question everything I say. How can I run it if you'refuse to accept it?
Now look, Pearl, just go back down your track and give me only what you're getting.
I am giving you only what I'm getting. What the hell do you think I'm doing? Whose
engram is it anyway, yours or mine? I know what's in that engram and nobody else.
You weren't there. Now look, Pearl, go back to the beginning of the engram and run it
again and give me just what's there. You're breaking the Auditor's Code. You're
arguing with me in regression. You're a lousy auditor, you don't know what the hell
you're doing. I'll never let you audit me again. All right, Pearl, leave all your somatics
on the time track, take a deep breath and come up to present time. And then we really
go at it.

LRH: Then what does he say?

PC: Now look, Pearl, you're not letting me handle this right. What the hell are you talking
about anyway? You don't know what's in my engrams. Come on, how would you



know that this isn't in there? You have no right to say such things. Look, Pearl, you
happen to be running two engrams at once. How the hell do you know I'm running two
engrams at once? You have absolutely no right to make a statement like that. I know
you're running two engrams at once. And I'm trying to separate them and have you run
the earlier one. You have a hell of a nerve. You think you know all about auditing,
don't you. Boy, you had better read that book. You have a hell of a lot to learn. I'm not
going to let you run me till you'read that book. Why did you say that didn't belong in
there? Figure it out. Your folks didn't know Mrs. Goldberg beforeyou were born. How
do you know they didn't? Well, let's figure it out. When were the Goldbergs married?
Oh, Arnold, you don't know what you're doing. This is the worst thing you could
possibly do. It doesn't necessarily have to be the Mrs. Goldberg that you're thinking
of. It could be any Mrs. Goldberg, or a name That'sounds like it. You have no right to
question any data that's given you. He's beginning to accept it. I go to the bathroom.
I'm very angry. Then he says, All right, come back and lie down again. And he wants
me to run the engram out just as I get it, but I refuse to run it for him. Every time I
come to those words I pull out of them. So, there's another engram that's left open
without being reduced. And I think it was a pretty important one. It was at the time my
diarrhea first started.

LRH: Your diarrhea first started right after this?

PC: No, I had just come back from Bob. Bob hadn't knocked the diarrhea out. He sent me
home with the diarrhea. Oh, I've got to go to the bathroom now. May I?

LRH: Come up to present time. Just the mention of the word diarrhea?

PC: Apparently, I don't know.

LRH: Okay.

[short break]

LRH: Close your eyes. Now let's go back to the first time he busts the Auditor's Code. The
first time. Let's see if we can find a moment before the unveiling incident.

PC: I don't think I had diarrhea prior to the unveiling.

LRH: All right. It's not terribly important. Let's find out just a moment any time before the
unveiling that Arnold jumps you about something.

PC: (pause) I think that was the first time.

LRH: Was it after the unveiling, or before?

PC: It was after.

LRH: Now when did your diarrhea turn on?

PC: (pause) After the unveiling.

LRH: All right. What happened at the unveiling that turned it on? Who told you you were
wrong?

PC: (pause) My father.

LRH: All right. What did he say?



PC: I'm telling him about Bob. Didn't he do a good job? Look how nice I'm looking. I
know my father has all kinds of engrams about money. I shouldn't have pressed his
button.

LRH: So what happened?

PC: I said, The doctor wants a thousand dollars, how about it? And I hold out my hand.
And he's saying, Look, take it easy. Don't give all your money away. (pause) You're
going to school and things are hard right now. Give him a little bit each month. I don't
think he's saying I'm wrong.

LRH: Go on. Let's roll it.

PC: You kids are always giving all your money away. No wonderyou don't have anything
for yourselves. You don't have to go without clothes and without food and without so
many things. You're always giving your money away. You'll never have a dime. I'm
saying, Did you know I was dying? Would you rather give the money to a doctor for
making me well or would you rather spend it for a funeral? You know how sick I was?
That isn't the point. (pause) I know, I know. But you kids are wrong, you'll never
have a dime. You want to give everything away. Oh, Daddy, don't you give us credit
for having any sense at all ? Don `t you think we know how to manage our own affairs?
We haven't starved yet, have we? What's more important than health? The man
certainly earns his money. That's right, that's right. But he can wait. Give him just a
little bit each month. That's about the only thing I can'think of where someone said we
were wrong.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it again, honey. Contact the beginning of it. You're doing good.

PC: (pause) Well, how do I look? What do you think of that doctor anyway? He said he
could do it, didn't he?

LRH: Continue. You're doing good.

PC: He said he could do it and he did.

LRH: Keep rolling, honey.

PC: There's something about a thousand dollars.

LRH: Okay. Just keep going.

PC: He wants a thousand dollars. How about it?

LRH: Continue.

PC: You kids are so anxious to give all your money away. You'll never have a dime. You
don't do anything right. I can't understand you kids. You never have anything, and it's
your own fault. You don't have to live the way you do.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) He said, We don't have that kind of money. You don't realise, would you
rather give the money to a doctor for making me well or spend it for a funeral? You
could come to the cemetery instead, maybe you'd enjoy that more? That isn't the point.
(pause)

LRH: Continue, honey. That isn't the point. Continue.



PC: You kids are wrong. You give everything away. You have nothing left for yourselves.
You never leave anything for yourselves. You want to give everything away. You want
to take care of everything right away. You don't leave yourselves anything over in case
of an emergency.

LRH: Does he say anything about a relapse, or you getting sick again?

PC: No.

LRH: Does he question in any way the validity of the statement?

PC: No.

LRH: Does he say anything like, How do you know it's going to last? or anything like that?

PC: No.

LRH: Does anybody?

PC: My uncle treats me like I'm an invalid. Just naturally, not knowing anything about
Dianetics, he thinks I'm still sick.

LRH: What does he say?

PC: He's setting up a bridge table and I go to get the chairs and start carrying them. Oh no,
Pearl, don't. Oh, put those down this minute. I'll carry them. Don't you do a thing.
You sit down and rest. Here, have a glass of milk. And he pulls out the milk bottle and
the glass. And I'm saying, I don't want any milk. Oh, come on, you must have it.
Please drink it, it's good for you. I say, Look, you've got me all wrong. I'm not sick.
Will you get that into your head ? I'm fine. I'm not sick, please don't treat me like I'm
sick. If I want it I'll take it. I'm fine. They refuse to believe it. They don't say it. But I
can see it from their actions. And my aunt actually gets very angry at me.

LRH: What does she'say?

PC: (laughs) She's an aberree first class. And she'says, Now, Pearl, you don't do a thing.
You just rest. Oh, I wanted to clean up some dishes in the sink. You just rest. I'm
saying, Look, for heaven's sake I'm not sick. Please don't treat me as though I am. I'm
perfectly fine. And she's saying, Now don't start your old tricks. Don't act like the old
Pearl. Don't act like you used to, or something similar.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to the beginning when you first got into this, this will come
clear in a couple of runs. Attagirl. You're doing good. Okay.

PC: Let me do it. I'll be glad to help. She's saying, Now, Pearl, I don't want you to do
things. You just take it easy and relax. For heaven's sakes I'm not sick, and please
don't treat me as though I am. I feel fine. Now don't act like you.... No.

LRH: Don't bother, honey, it will come back to you.

PC: Don t act like you used to. That isn't right but she's saying something comparable.

LRH: Iwill help you. One-two-three-four-five (snap!). Roll it again. It will come clear.

PC: Now don't start acting like you used to. You're supposed to be different now. You
used to say, `Don't tell me I'm nervous. ` She always used to tell me I was nervous,
and I would get furious with her. You're supposed to be different now. She said it in
her most annoyed tone. Then she finishes the ridiculous patter, I'm your friend.



Remember that. I'm your friend. And I'm thinking how the hell does this whole
conversation tie up. It's certainly not rational. She doesn't know what the hell she's
saying. She was very angry. Something I said just blew her off.

LRH: Okay. Let's contact the beginning of it.

PC: I just didn't answer her because it was so stupid. Please don't treat me like I'm sick.
I'm fine. I'm perfectly fine. And she's saying, Now don't start acting like you used to.
You're supposed to be different now. You used to say, `Don't tell me that I'm
nervous.'

LRH: You're doing good.

PC: Remember one thing. I'm your friend. Remember that. I'm your friend. Period. End.

LRH: Now let's contact that from the beginning. (long pause) Well, you can contact it,
honey. Now you're standing there and where is she while you're talking to her?

PC: I'm in my cousin's bedroom.

LRH: Okay. And what's the old lady say?

PC: She is in the adjoining bedroom.

LRH: Okay. So what's occurring?

PC: I'm fine. Please don't treat me like I'm sick. I'm not sick anymore, please. Please don't
treat me like I am. I feel fine. I'm getting an annoyed tone too. Now don't start up like
you used to.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: Don t start up like you used to.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You're supposed to be different now. Don't start up like you used to. Don't start up
like you used to. You're supposed to be different now.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Now I'm at the refrigerator, I've got the door open and I'm looking inside.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm your friend, remember that. I'm your friend. That's all she'said.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again. Don't start up like you used to.

PC: Don t start up like you used to.

LRH: Keep rolling.

PC: You're supposed to be different now. You're supposed to be different now. You're
supposed to be d ifferent. (pause) You were always....

LRH: Hm?



PC: You were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous. ` I'm your friend, remember that.
I'm your friend.

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: This is the most incoherent conversation I've ever heard.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll it again.

PC: Look, I'm fine. I feel fine. I'm not sick anymore. Please don't treat me as though I'm
still sick. I'm fine. Really, I am, I feel wonderful. Don't start up like you used to.
You're supposed to be different now. She's being very sarcastic. You're supposed to
be different now. You were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous.' I'm your
friend, remember that. I'm your friend. Want me to run it again?

LRH: Hm? You betcha.

PC: (laughs)

LRH: Roll it.

PC: Look, I feel fine. I'm not sick anymore. Please don't treat me as though I am. I really
feel wonderful. Well, don't start up like you used to. You're supposed to be different.
You were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous. ` I'm your friend. Remember
that, I'm your friend.

LRH: (starts laughing)

PC: If you can compute that, you're good.

LRH: (laugh in voice) Let's roll it again, honey.

PC: I did something to push her button, but I'll be damned if I know what. (pause) Look,
I'm not sick. Please don't treat me as though I'm sick. I feel fine. Really, I feel
wonderful. (exhales) Now don't start acting like you used to. (belches)

LRH: Oh-oh.

PC: (belches)

LRH: Don't start acting like you used to. Contact it, honey.

PC: Don t start acting like you used to.

LRH: I thought we'd smoke this one out in a minute.

PC: Don t start acting like you used to. Do you want me to carry it early?

LRH: Yeah. Pick up that lower engram on it.

PC: Don t start acting like you used to.

LRH: Start up like you used to.

PC: Don t start up like you used to.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: Don't start up like you used to.

LRH: Don't start acting like you used to. You know what the words are, I don't. Roll it,
honey.

PC: Don t start acting like you used to. Don't start acting like you used to. Don't start acting
like you used to. Don't start acting like you used to. Don't start acting like you used to.

LRH: Where is this on the track? (pause) Push it again.

PC: Don't start acting like you used to. I don't know. I haven't the slightest notion.

LRH: All right. Your somatic strip can contact it.

PC: Don't start acting like you used to.

LRH: Go over it again. Let's connect the next consecutive line. You can run these things off.

PC: I couldn't stand that. (pause) You'realize these are just words that come to me.

LRH: Hm?

PC: You'realize these are just words that come to me. I have no idea whether they're the
right ones or not.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it.

PC: (yawns; pause) Don't start acting like you used to. I couldn't stand it. Don't start acting
like you used to. I couldn't stand it. (yawn) Don't start acting like you used to. I
couldn't stand it.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't start acting like you used to, I couldn `t stand it.

LRH: Don't call me nervous, now.

PC: Don't call me nervous

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous.

LRH: Let's pick it up. That's a girl.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous. (assumes annoyed tone) Don't tell me I'm nervous.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous. Don't tell me I'm nervous. She was pushing my buttons.

LRH: Hm-hm. Go ahead.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous.

[gap in recording]

PC: I thought it was confusing.

LRH: That was a beauty.

PC: These are my own words, I know that. I mean I think I'm giving you my words.

LRH: All right.

PC: I know I have said them to her.

LRH: All right. Let's contact it back to as early as we can get it. Don't tell me I'm nervous.

PC: (yawn) Don't tell me I'm nervous. Don't tell me I'm nervous.

LRH: Continue.

PC: It's about the worst thing you can do.

LRH: Continue.

PC: The worst thing you can do is to tell a person he's nervous. Do you think he can help
it?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (yawn) Don't tell me I'm nervous. Don't tell me I'm nervous, it's about the worst thing
you can do. Telling a person he is nervous certainly doesn't help. Do you think he can
help being nervous? Telling a person he's nervous is about the worst thing you can do.
Do you think he can help it?

LRH: Now the somatic strip can contact the beginning of this. (pause) Continue.

PC: (pause; loud sigh) Don't tell me I'm nervous. Don't tell me I'm nervous. Don't tell me
I'm nervous. That's the worst thing you can do. About the worst thing you can do is
tell a person he's nervous. Do you think he can help it? I mean it won't make him feel
any better.

LRH: Okay. Buttons, buttons, buttons. (chuckle) Let's contact the beginning of it with the
somatic strip, honey.

PC: Don't tell me I'm nervous. (sigh) Don't tell me I'm nervous. That's the worst thing you
can do. The worst thing you can do is to tell a person who's nervous that he's nervous,
it's certainly no help. Do you think he can help it? Might make him worse. (loud sigh)
About the worst thing you can do is to tell a person he's nervous. It certainly won't
make him feel any better. Do you think he can help it?

LRH: You're okay. Run it to the time the old lady's batting at you with it.



PC: Do you think that's my mother's conversation?

LRH: I don't know, maybe it's the same old dame's conversation. (chuckles) It doesn't
matter what it is. Let's roll what she'says to you at the unveiling.

PC: What I was running previously?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Please don't treat me as though I'm sick. I feel fine, really I do. I feel wonderful. I'm
not sick and I don't want to be treated as though I am sick. Now look, don't start up
like you used to. You were always saying, `Don't tell me I am nervous. ` I'm your
friend. Remember that. I'm your friend. (LRH begins to laugh at last line, PC:
joins in) Do you see what I mean?

LRH: Yeah, I see what you mean. All right. Let's go to the icebox or wherever you are there.
Let's roll what you've got.

PC: Boy, if you ever run short and you need any cases, we had two rooms full that day.

You're supposed to be different now. You were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous.'
I'm your friend. Remember that, I'm your friend. (laughs) Where does that come in,
would you please tell me!

LRH: All right, let's roll it again.

PC: Maybe it's a gardener friend. This was his (laughing as talks) conversation.
(pause)Now don't start up like you used to. You're supposed to be different now. You
were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous.' I'm your friend. Remember that, I'm
your friend.

LRH: What were you doing when she was saying this?

PC: I was at the refrigerator.

LRH: All right. Let's contact it again.

PC: Well, at least it's good for a laugh. (pause) Don't start up like you used to. You're
supposed to be different now. You were always saying, `Don't tell me I'm nervous.'
I'm your friend. Remember that, I'm your friend.

LRH: (chuckles again) Okay. Come on up to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All the way up to present time.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Canceled. Five-four-three-twoone (snap!). Well, what do you think, honey?

PC: Hm ?

LRH: What do you think?

PC: I don't know what to think. I know something's there.



LRH: Well, you see itb such a mechanical proposition. She makes a nasty remark.

PC: Yeah, she pushes my buttons.

LRH: What would you do about the nasty remark? You would negate against it, wouldn't
you.

PC: And of the whole day that one little half a minute of conversation messed me up but
good.

LRH: So you negate against her. People haven't let you be right very much in your life, have
they? Your mama got right by being sick, didn't she.

PC: That was one way. She could never do anything. And she used to say to me, The only
time your father's ever nice to me is when I'm sick.

LRH: But she could be right when she was sick.

PC: Well, she had her own way more.

LRH: She had her own way. Therefore that was being right, wasn't it?

PC: Well, her own way was always the right way. Mother knows best.

LRH: Well, Mother knows best.

PC: Pearl did everything right or as they told her to because Mother was the authority.

LRH: All right.

Breaking the Auditor's Code has such an influence upon a person because the mind is made to
be right. It's constructed along the lines that it is right. So somebody all of a sudden challenges
its right to be right. And the Auditor's Code is broken most flagrantly when that is done. So
then, one gets left on a second echelon level of being right, which is?

To be wrong?

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, figure it out. There are two methods of being right. One is just being right, and one is by,
in your case, being Mama.

Yah. If I can't be right on my own, I'll be right by being Mama. Because Mama was always
right.

Yes. There's nothing wrong with being right. That's one of the aberrations in society. Insanity
consists of a person's having been wrong too often.

Where did you get that, Ron?

Well, you have to look at this on a rather high echelon level of Dianetics. If a person was
infinitely right he would survive forever. That is computation. Absolute right would be
absolute survival.

All right. That I get. Absolute wrong would be absolute death.



Death.

We can't attain these absolutes. But the mind tries consistently to obtain the upper absolute and
avoid the lower one.

It's got to be right.

That's right.

Right is survival.

Yes. To be right is survival. If the person is wrong too often, he will kick off.

Uh-huh.

All right. Your mother had worked out a technique, engramically, which has been traveling for
a long time. How could she be right? That is to say, how could she push herself into a position
where she could survive according to her engramic computation? That would be to be sick.
This of course made her right. You can't argue with a sick person.

Yes, I understand.

All right. Therefore, if you're challenged to be wrong, what happens?

Then I'll die.

You've got another method for being right.

Oh, if I'm challenged then I go into her valence, then I'm right.

It's a mechanical identity thinking proposition. It isn't something you're doing.

No, I understand. I follow it perfectly. I knew she was wrong.

You knew she was wrong? But what was she saying?

She was pushing my buttons.

She was saying, Don't start that up again, or something comparable. So, if she's wrong, then
we negate against her to be right. So what do we do?

We avoid being told it's wrong.

That's correct. Which winds us up in this case where?

Like where I am. Deathly sick.

But are you there at that point? Ask yourself?

I think I'm better.

Yes, I know, but are you at this instant?

Yes.

How do you feel?

Good. Fine.



Yes, but you see what she does here? You're crossing your fingers now.

I'm not sure of anything. I ran that out with Brian.

All right. But if you ran it out, then you should be sure of something. Now, you talked to
Dawn this morning. And she's talking about these beautiful perceptics and That'sort of thing.
Well, she doesn't know it, but she doesn't have any somatics although she has excellent audio
in the upper register.

In other words, we can't all have everything. But we will have everything eventually.

Now, you're not wrong because you don't have these things, and your dad isn't wrong
because you don't have these things, see? You're right. You're going along okay. And you
had, number one, somebody who is evidently highly engramic.

Mother. (laughs)

And she comes along and says so-and-so. We negate against her, we get a spin, we get Papa
and he's saying you're wrong too. Don't give that doctor your money, and so on. Okay. So
you come back from the unveiling and the reactive mind says you've got to negate, you've got
to get sick because you're supposed to be well, but that's not what your upper monitors want.

Of course not.

Not by a long ways. So you go down to Bob.

Yes.

All right. Then we go back to Arnold, because Bob sent us along. And what does Arnold do?

Tells us that we're wrong again.

He breaks the Auditor's Code. So we start a dwindling spiral.

Well, I know, I started to slow down.

There's nothing wrong with Bob's auditing. He did what he could. But here's something
That'should have been done at the first moment you went down to see Bob. He should have
picked up the exact moments of precipitation.

When this whole thing first started, you mean?

No, it was a few days before that.

Well, he did review the unveiling. He didn't review it in its entirety, but we ran out an ally
computation with an uncle of mine.

In other words, it wasn't a smooth job. Now this is not Bob's fault. Because the theory and
mechanism behind this has only been in development for about three weeks, and he did the best
job he could under the circumstances.

He did review it. He said, Let's go back to the unveiling.

Okay. That is the stuff. But the data wasn't there. Now there's another reason why the data
wasn't there. Part of the bank had to be cleaned up, maybe it hadn't appeared. Now the data is
appearing. Your bank didn't quite occlude it after all, and you will get it eventually. Then with



Arnold the Auditor's Code got broken. Now all you have to do is roll out the rest of the breaks
on the Auditor's Code.

We have to roll them all out? They will roll out very quickly.

I have absolutely no confidence in my ability to recall.

Sure, he challenged your ability to recall at a moment when you were defenceless and expecting
him to protect you. This therefore made you succumb. Okay, so you succumbed to the engram
instead of attacking the engram. Your power to attack the engram was at that moment
undermined. But it has been rehabilitated here.

I'm sure it must have been.

So how do you feel about it?

I can't be sure of anything. I'm not sure. My strongest answer is I hope so. That's my
grandmother but definitely. Any time someone said something good was going to happen she
would say, Well, I hope so. In other words, not a positive statement, but just the strongest
thing she could say That'she was comfortable with. And that has been something I have always
used.

LRH: Well, lie down. All right, let's pick up the first time I hope so appears in the bank.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: First time it appears in the bank.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Contact her. The somatic strip can contact her. I hope so what?

PC: Don't worry, she'll get well. I hope so.

LRH: Oh, brother. (LRH and PC: chuckle) Let's roll that again.

PC: Don't worry, she'll get well. She'll be all right. And my grandmother's saying, I hope
so.



LRH: And what else does she'say? (pause) Can't be sure, there's an I can't be sure there.

PC: Are you sure?

LRH: Ah!

PC: How do you know?

LRH: How do you know?

PC: How do you know? Are you sure?

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Are you sure? (groan) I'm really messed up.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: Are you sure? How do you know?

LRH: Okay. (chuckle in voice) Let's go over that again.

PC: Are you sure, how do you know? Are you sure, how do you know?

LRH: Continue. (pause) Let's contact the first part of this, honey. (pause) Is it The strongest
answer I can give you?

PC: No.

LRH: All right.

PC: That's just my evaluation.

LRH: All right. It's I hope so, then.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I hope so I hope so I hope so

LRH: What's the word just before that?

PC: (pause) Don't worry, she'll be all right.



LRH: Continue.

PC: She's saying it very gravely, very seriously.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: As though she doesn't really believe it.

LRH: Hm-hm. Continue. (pause; clears throat) Continue.

PC: (pause) Don't worry, she'll be all right. (long pause, whispers) I hope so, I hope so.
(inhales sharply) I can't get the next word.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the somatic now.

PC: Don't worry, she'll be all right. I hope so.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: Don't worry, she'll be all right. I hope so. (pause) I'm starting to feel sick again.

LRH: What?

PC: I'm starting to feel sick again.

LRH: You are, right now?

PC: Just slightly uncomfortable. It's all stirring up in here.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll that from the beginning, dear.

PC: Don't worry, I'm all right. I have no idea what's going on here.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Don't worry, she'll be all right. (pause) I don't get any other words.

LRH: Tell me the other words.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: All right. Go over that, I don't know.

PC: I don't know. I don't know.

LRH: Get the rest of it.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I don't know.

LRH: Go over I hope so.

PC: I hope so I don't know. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so.

LRH: How do you feel in your stomach?

PC: Fine.

LRH: Feel a little better?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Come up to present time.

PC: I'm here.

LRH: Canceled. Five-four-three-two-one.

Session, 12 June 1950

Stability is extremely necessary in your case. There's no reason why you should keep on
diving off like this. If it was good auditing you would not have done so.

But with poor auditing where the auditor is challenging your information, in addition to which
there is a psychiatrist entering into the case delving around in mid-therapy telling you it's all in
your imagination, they are tackling you at a moment when you are still in an unsettled
condition. So, it produces a greater effect than it should. As a result, we can't expect a great
deal of release until we get rid of the psychiatry which has been practiced on you.

In former years, psychiatry was under the unfortunate delusion that delusion produced
insanity. Well, it happens that delusion is insanity. So by telling people that they had delusions,
they were producing insanity.

And it's a remarkable fact that-since the promulgation and practice of psychoanalysis along that
line there has been a curve of increasing psychosis in this society.

The mind considers being right as survival. And actually it is. To survive, a mind has to be
right. The more often it is impinged with the information that it is wrong, the less it is able to be
right. And it at once sets in a dwindling spiral where evidently the monitor units of rightness
begin to idle rather than think.

And eventually when a person is proved completely wrong (what we refer to on the electronic
charts as the central monitor board is finally swamped and no longer has potential) the person is
psychotic because he has no further check on what he is doing.

This can happen on an acute basis or a chronic basis. On the acute basis the analytical
shutdown results in the crime passionnel or merely the acute brief breakdown. And if chronic,
the person is continually swamped.

The Auditor's Code is there not because it's nice but because it has an actual part in therapy. If
an auditor challenges the person's ideas about what is wrong with him, then he challenges the
persona recalls and he challenges and labels as imagination what the person believes has
happened to him in his life. And although these things may be wrong, the fact of challenging
them is knocking out the alignment of monitor units.



Here we have a case which worked beautifully, was doing fine, and then was suddenly taken
over by an auditor who was very challenging and critical of information and data, and we got
an instantaneous deterioration. Now it happens to be complicated by the fact that the patient's
husband's name appears in the patient's prenatal bank. And the setup is very bad. All I'm
going to do is run out these auditor violations.

PC: All right. You should have a lot of fun.

LRH: Take off your glasses, honey.

PC: Yes, sir.

LRH: Okay. Close your eyes. Anything I say to you now while you are lying there with your
eyes closed will become canceled when I utter the word canceled while you're in
session. Okay?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Okay. Just relax there for a moment. Now let's return to the moment when Dr. Collins
and your husband are in conversation together and you overhear them. Let's return to
this moment. (pause) Your somatic strip can go there, honey.

PC: (pause) Well, he's saying, I still say that there is very strong suggestion. It's nothing
new. It sounds like very strong suggestion to me. Of course there's nothing wrong
with suggestion. We use it a great deal in psychotherapy.

LRH: Okay. Let's return to the beginning of this now. Where are you standing in relationship
to these two gentlemen?

PC: It's on the subway.

LRH: Okay. What kind of racket is the subway making?

PC: (pause) It's very crowded and I can see it swaying back and forth. The three of us are
standing around a pole in the middle of the car.

LRH: Okay. Now what's being said there?

PC: Dr. Collins looks very serious, very aberrated. (chuckles)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I swear that guy's an AA.

LRH: All right. Continue, honey. (pause) Continue. (pause) Pick it up right there at the
beginning. The thing is swinging along. Pick it up there. Get the kinesthesia of
That'subway, whamitywhamity-wham.

PC: I (breathes deeply)

LRH: That's it. All right.

PC: Oh, I still say it s just a therapy.

LRH: Continue. It's all right. (pause) Now let's pick up the remark which has just been made
to him. Let's piek up the remark which has just been made to him.



PC: (murmur)

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can't contact it, honey. Your somatic strip can be right there
with it. (pause) How does the subway look?

PC: I can see the subway all right.

LRH: All right. You don't have to pick up the sonic on this. To hell with the sonic. Just give
me an impression of what's occurring. If you tell me they're talking about cancan girls,
I'll take it. Go on. Let's roll it.

PC: I can't hear what Arnold is saying somehow.

LRH: All right. When I count from one to five it will flash into your mind. One-two-three-
four-five (snap!).

PC: (pause) I can't.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I can't pick it up.

LRH: Is Arnold saying something like, I can't understand it, what do you think about it? Your
somatic strip can go to the moment he's speaking there. (pause)

PC: Well, he's saying something about somatics.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that. Somatics.

PC: (murmurs) Somatics.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Seems to me the somatics prove the validity of the whole thing.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again.

PC: It seems to me the somatics prove the validity of the whole thing.

LRH: Okay. Let's roll what Arnold is saying there. How does he look when he's saying this?
Let's roll it again.

PC: It seems to me that the somatics prove the validity of the whole thing. First she gets a
pain here and then she gets a pain there. The pain comes and goes away and then she
gets the pain somewhere else.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue.

PC: Then Arnold says, That doesn't happen in psychotherapy. To which Collins replies,
We've seen that happen in certain patients where they are in therapy and they start
getting a somatic.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Has this gentleman ever read any book on Dianetics?

PC: We gave him a copy, but I'll bet he never even opened it.

LRH: Okay. Lets start from the beginning again. Now, lets pick it up at the beginning. What
is the first objection that Collins is making there?



PC: I still say it's suggestion. I still say it's a very strongly suggestive type of therapy.

LRH: Is That'subway roaring?

PC: Yes. He's talking quite loudly, his voice is raised.

LRH: Hm-hm. Let's go over that again.

PC: I still say it s a very strongly suggestive type of therapy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And it will work very easily on strongly suggestive people.

LRH: Oh. Let's go over that again.

PC: Oh, yes, because he said to Arnold, Have you been through this therapy too? In other
words, she's highly suggestive and you're not, as much as to say, Oh, it wouldn't
work on you.

LRH: Continue.

PC: He says to Arnold, Do you get the somatics ? And Arnold says, Oh, yes, you ought to
have seen me, man, thrashing all over the place.

LRH: Continue. (pause) How are you feeling as you're standing there listening to all this?
(pause)

PC: I suppose it is undermining me a little. I have never thought of that before. But I have
mixed feelings about it. I feel sorry for the guy. I feel he could stand a little therapy
himself. He was haggard and worn, and looked like a wreck.

LRH: Okay. Continue.

PC: And he looks as if he has got the weight of the world on his shoulders. He has
probably been psychoanalysed too. And I also keep wondering if there might possibly
be something to what he's saying.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: Sol do and I don't. I'm ambivalent, I guess.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I don't think ambivalent is the right term but I have mixed feelings.

LRH: Okay, honey, lets run the words mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Early.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Early. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings.



LRH: Early. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Contact it. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. (pause) Mixed feelings.

LRH: Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Contact it. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. (pause) Mixed feelings.

LRH: All right. Lets contact that and any subsequent phrase that might appear.

PC: That's a term Collins has used to me in psychotherapy.

LRH: What does he say?

PC: In other words you have mixed feelings about it?

LRH: Oh. Lets pick up the first time he says this.

PC: Oh, no! Do we have to go through the whole damned psychotherapy?

LRH: I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

PC: Oh, no. Please, Ron!

LRH: All right. Let's contact the first time he says mixed feelings. (pause) Your somatic strip
can contact the first time he says mixed feelings.

PC: (pause; yawn)

LRH: Did you ever have any drug therapy with him?

PC: No, thank God.

LRH: What drugs were you using at the time you were seeing him?

PC: Phenobarb every four hours.

LRH: Attaboy. .

PC: But I didn't take that for very long, thank goodness.

LRH: All right. Is this particular moment you're picking up here a moment when you're
taking phenobarb?

PC: Possibly. The term mixed feelings was very common in our sessions.

LRH: Okay. Let's pick up the first time mixed feelings appears in the bank.

PC: (sigh)



LRH: The first time he says it. Repeat it. Mixed feelings. You can contact it.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: All right. Contact it.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Mixed f eelings. Mixed f eelings. (deep breath) Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: What's his correct phrase on it? What's the full phrase?

PC: He often says, You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

LRH: Lets go over that again.

PC: You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. (yawn) You're damned if
you do and you're damned if you don't.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

LRH: Lets go early now. Any phrase that says, Believe the doctor, early. If itb there. Believe
the doctor. Believe what the doctor says. Do what the doctor tells you.

PC: You're the doctor.

LRH: What?

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: What else?

PC: I'm getting nauseous.

LRH: Lets go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor. .

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor. (yawn) Whatever you say, you're the doctor.



LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Pick up the believe me there or anything like that? (pause) You'd better do what I tell
you, anything like that?

PC: (pause) I don't pick it up.

LRH: All right. What ever you say, you're the doctor. Let's go over that.

PC: What ever you say, (yawn) you're the doctor.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: All right. Lets contact the phrase just earlier than that. Lets see if we can contact the
doctor there. If there is a doctor there, if there isn't somebody else. Contact the phrase
just before it.

PC: (yawn)

LRH: The phrase just before it there.

PC: (pause) Follow these directions and I'm sure you will feel much better.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Follow these directions and I'm sure you will feel much better.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Just follow these directions and I'm sure you will feel much better.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Follow these directions and I'm sure you will feel much better.

LRH: Contact it again.

PC: Just follow these directions and I'm sure you will feel much better.

LRH: What's your somatic here?

PC: Nauseous.

LRH: Nausea and what else?

PC: I've got a lot of phlegm in my nose and throat.

LRH: All right. Let's see if we can contact this and roll it. The somatic strip can contact the
first end of this. Now lets see if we can roll it through.

PC: (yawn)

LRH: Let's contact it. (pause) Let's contact it.



PC: I can't. (breathes heavily)

LRH: Go on. Contact it.

PC: Oh.

LRH: Contact it, contact it right there at the beginning. Contact the beginning. Contact the
beginning of it. You can, honey.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Can't what?

PC: Don't know.

LRH: What's going on there, honey? (pause; snaps fingers) If you tell me the Sultan of India
has just arrived to pay your mother a visit, why, I'll believe you. Go ahead. (pause)
Contact the somatic on that.

PC: (murmur)

LRH: How about rolling into your valence down here. Into your own valence. Aren't you
tired of your mothers valence?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Well, get into your own valence, its perfectly simple. (pause) How does it
feel in your own valence? Can you contact it?

PC: (yawn) I don't feel sick anymore.

LRH: Okay. What's coming through there while you're in your own valence? Just give me
some guesses. It's okay.

PC: I pick up some nausea in there.

LRH: All right. Into your own valence again.

PC: (pause; yawn)

LRH: All right. Switch over into the doctors valence. Let's switch over into the doctor's
valence and give this ailing dame some good advice. Just give her any kind of advice
that you think would benefit her. Over to the doctors valence. Now, give this lady some
advice. Tell her to pare her bunions regularly or anything you want to, but give her
some advice. God knows, this gal needs it. Go on, give her some advice. Would you
speak with a low voice or high voice if you were the doctor?

PC: (pause) A low voice.

LRH: All right. Give her some advice.

PC: This won't hurt. (starts laughing)

LRH: Huh?

PC: (suddenly laughing) I think she's constipated !



LRH: Go over it.

PC: Why couldn't I pick up that part of it if I had to be in her valence? Oh. (groan)

LRH: Roll it again.

PC: (laugh)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Oh, damn.

LRH: What is it again?

PC: (belches)

LRH: Okay. Get into the doctors valence. Now roll it. You're there talking to her on the
subject. Would you be consoling or cross with her?

PC: Consoling.

LRH: All right. How would you console this poor woman who is so nauseated?

PC: Oh, really, it isn't anything. A million women have gone through it before, and they
survived beautifully. It's the most natural thing in the world.

LRH: Go on. Give her some good advice.

PC: Of course you're a little uncomfortable, that's to be expected. But it isn't that bad. I'll
give you a prescription. Just follow the directions and I'm sure you'll feel much better.

LRH: As the doctor, what would you hear from this character? Lets go back to the first part of
it now and, as the doctor, what would you hear from her?

PC: (laughing)

LRH: What would you be hearing from her?

PC: How much do I get for writing this script anyway?

LRH: Now what do you hear from her?

PC: I can't hear her. (yawns)

LRH: What would you be saying to her? Let's go over that again. Come on, let's give her this
little gem of advice again.

PC: Oh, come now, it really isn't that bad.

LRH: Oh, I see. Let's roll that first phrase, dear.

PC: It's the most natural thing in the world. I'm sure it isn't bothering you as much as you
say.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Of course you're a little uncomfortable. That's to be expected. I'll make you out a
prescription. You just follow the directions. And it should relieve you considerably.



LRH: Okay. Now lets switch over to Mamas valence and answer it. (pause) What do you
complain to him about in the first place? Lets complain to him first.

PC: I'm completely miserable. I'm just not myself these days.

LRH: Complain to him some more.

PC: (laugh) Those words sound familiar to the doctor. (pause)

LRH: Go on. What do you say to him after he gives you the prescription? Just pretend you're
Mama. (pause) What do you say to him?

PC: Well, I certainly hope this helps.

LRH: Go on. Keep answering back at him, whatever comes into your mind. You know how
pale and wan you are lying there.

PC: Oh, I've been so discouraged lately I didn't know wher.e to turn.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) If this helps me I'll be eternally grateful.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Him?

LRH: Go on.

PC: (murmur; pause)

LRH: Go on. Go over the phrase What ever you say to the doctor, you're the doctor. What is
it?

PC: Whateveryou say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you `re the doctor. (blows nose)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: What ever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'll do whatever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: All right. Lets get into your own valence and roll the thing.



PC: I'll do whatever you say, you're the doctor.

LRH: Let's get into your own valence now, from the beginning. Run it on through in your
own valence.

PC: (belches)

LRH: What is your own valence doing? Come on. Lets roll into your own valence.

PC: (belches; pause; deep breath)

LRH: What do you get there at the beginning?

PC: (pause) I don't get any somatic.

LRH: Okay. There probably isn't any. Lets roll it.

PC: Oh, I feel so miserable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm just beside myself. (That's a nice one.)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Does that make me ambivalent or something? Ooh!

LRH: Lets roll it again.

PC: (breathes heavily)

LRH: Let's roll it.

PC: Oh, I feel so sick

LRH: Hm?

PC: Terribly sick

LRH: Go on over that line.

PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm terribly sick I'm terribly sick.

LRH: Go over it again. Contact it.

PC: I'm terribly sick

LRH: Shift into your own valence and contact it.

PC: I'm terribly sick I'm terribly sick. (yawn) I'm terribly sick. I'm terribly sick. I'm
terribly sick.

LRH: What comes after that?

PC: (pause) It's just unbearable.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: It's just unbearable.

LRH: Shift into your own valence and catch that one.

PC: It's just unbearable.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's just unbearable. (deep breath) It's just unbearable.

LRH: Attagirl. What comes next? (pause) Continue.

PC: (murmur) You've got to do something to make me more comfortable.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I can't go on this way.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (belch) I can't go on this way.

LRH: Shift into your own valence and pick up that line.

PC: I can't go on this way.

LRH: Go over it again. Your own valence.

PC: I can't go on this way.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: All right. Lets contact it.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.



LRH: Shift into your own valence on this.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer.

LRH: Let's go to the first time that appears in the bank, honey. Let's go to the first time that
appears in the bank. First time. Early, early, early, early, early, early. Repeat it.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer.

LRH: Lets contact it.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much
longer.

LRH: First time that appears in the bank?

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much
longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: First time.

PC: (pause; yawn) I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Fine. Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Okay. Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Shift into your own valence. Contact that now.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. (belch)

LRH: Your own valence, dear. Who is saying that?

PC: My mother.

LRH: All right, lets contact your mother saying that.



PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Go on. Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much
longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. (voice
gets fainter and fainter)

LRH: Contact it, honey, first time it appears in the bank.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: The somatic strip can contact it.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Hit it.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Shift into your own valence.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on
this way much longer.

LRH: Hit it. Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't go on this way much longer. I can't go on this way much longer. Something
will have to be done.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: Something will have to be done.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I'm getting weaker and weaker.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Lets go over it again. Let's not get so weak we can't run the engram.
(chuckles) Let's roll it again.

PC: Something will have to be done.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Something will have to be done.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (murmur, belch) I can't take it anymore.

LRH: Let's roll that again.



PC: I can't take it anymore. I can't take it anymore. I can't take it. I can't take it anymore. I
can't take it anymore.

LRH: All right. Lets come on up to the time when you first hear the words mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: First time. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: How do you feel? Mixed feelings. First time.

PC: Mixed f eelings.

LRH: First time you hear these words.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Well, that's what's lousing up my valence, isn't it?

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. (pause) Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. (pause; belch)

LRH: Uh-huh!

PC: (belch)

LRH: Uh-huh. Let's go over that. Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: Go over the whole phrase now, mixed feelings, that goes along with that belch.

PC: (pause) Mixed feelings. (yawn) You've got mixed feelings.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You've got mixed feelings.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You mean you `ve got mixed feelings about it.

LRH: Who is it?

PC: Collins.

LRH: Let's go into the early part of the bank and pick up mixed feelings. Go early. Mixed
feelings. Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. Early.



PC: Mixed feelings. (pause) Mixed feelings. (pause; coughs)

LRH: Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings.

LRH: Get a mixed feelings that goes along with a belch.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Mixed feelings.

PC: Mixed feelings.

LRH: Mixed feelings. The somatic strip can contact it.

PC: Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. (pause) I'm getting mixed feelings about this thing.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: When I feel this way I wish it had never happened. And when I feel well, I can't wait.

LRH: Let's roll it again, honey.

PC: I've got mixed feelings about this pregnancy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I've got mixed feelings. (yawning) I've got mixed feelings about this
pregnancy. (pause)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got mixed feelings about this. I've got mixed feelings about this pregnancy.

LRH: Continue. Just roll it off down there. (pause) Roll it off.

PC: I've got mixed feelings about this pregnancy.

LRH: Continue.

PC: When I feel like this, I wish it had never happened.

LRH: Continue. Continue, honey.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: When I feel well, I can hardly wait. (pause) That's all.

LRH: Is that all?

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Lets run it again. See if we can run it in our own valence now.



PC: I ve got mixed feelings about this pregnancy. When I feel like this I wish it had never
happened.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I have mixed feelings. When I feel this way I wish it had never happened. And when I
feel well I can hardly wait. I've got mixed feelings about this pregnancy. When I feel
this way I wish it had never happened. And when I feel well I can hardly wait.

LRH: Continue.

PC: That's all.

LRH: Let's go to the beginning of it again. Let's go to the beginning of it again, honey. Let's
go to the beginning.

PC: I ve got mixed feelings about this pregnancy.

LRH: Let's see if we can contact That'solidly with the somatic strip now and get some yawns
off of it, huh? Let's get in underneath that belch. Let her belch all over you, what does
it matter? (pause) Continue.

PC: I ve got mixed feelings about this pregnancy. (belch) Oh, I'm so unhappy.

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: I Me got mixed feelings. I've got mixed feelings. (pause) I'm falling asleep.

LRH: Let's contact the somatic on it. (pause) Are you doping off there?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Are you just going to sleep or what?

PC: I feel very groggy.

LRH: Having any dreams?

PC: No.

LRH: Just sleepy, huh?

PC: Yes.

LRH: I'm so tired. Go over the line I'm so tired.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I'm so tired. I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: I'm so tired. Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired.

LRH: Contact it, honey. (pause) Contact it.

PC: (very faintly) I'm so tired. (belch)

LRH: Attagirl. Let's go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired. I'm so tired.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. (pause)

LRH: All right, honey. I tell you what we will do.

PC: Hm?

LRH: Come up to present time. Are you in present time? How do you feel?

PC: Fine, but a little dopey.

LRH: Oh, how about getting up on your feet and walking in a circle for a couple of minutes.

PC: Do you mean that?

LRH: Yah. That's right. Get your circulation started again.

PC: I've got to go to the bathroom anyway.

LRH: Okay. (pause) Just a minute before you go.

PC: Yah?

LRH: Close your eyes.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Say, I've got to go.

PC: (whispers) I've got to go.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go.



LRH: That's right. Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go.

LRH: What's the rest of the phrase? I've got to go.>

PC: I've got to go in a hurry. (small laugh)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry.

LRH: Contact it solidly now and let's see if we can get some anaten out of it. Let's go over it.

PC: I've just got to go in a hurry.

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry. I've got to go in a hurry. I've got to go in a hurry. Got to go
in a hurry. I've got to go in a hurry. Got to go in a hurry.

LRH: What's the rest of it?

PC: I could just pop right off to sleep.

LRH: What's this?

PC: I could just go right to sleep.

LRH: All right. Go on over that.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry and I could just pop right off to sleep?

LRH: No, I don't suppose so. If you think it's so, okay. Got to go in a hurry.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry.

LRH: What do you think the next word is?

PC: I don't know. (loud sigh) I've got to go in a hurry.

LRH: I don't know. I don't know what? All right. Let's go over it again. (pause) Let's
contact what sheb doing there.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry, I can't wait.

LRH: What's the rest of the engram?

PC: Excuse me! She's nutty. (inhales sharply) I get a feeling That'she'says early.



LRH: Okay.

PC: I don't hear anything.

LRH: Let's roll it.

PC: I've got to go in a hurry, I can't wait.

LRH: What's the first line?

PC: (yawns) Excuse me, I've got to go in a hurry, I can't wait.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that line again.

PC: Excuse me, I've got to go in a hurry, I can't wait. Got a hurried call.

LRH: Hm-hm. Go over that again.

PC: Got a hurried call.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I ve got a hurried call.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I ve a hurried call.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I ve got a hurried call.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it.

PC: (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I He got a hurried call. I just feel sick, Ron.

LRH: I just feel sick. Go over it, honey.

PC: I just feel sick (belch)

LRH: Go on over it again. I just feel sick.

PC: I just feel sick. I just feel sick.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I just feel sick I just feel sick I just feel sick. (belch) I just feel sick.

LRH: Go over it, honey.

PC: I just feel sick. I just feel sick. (belch) I just feel sick.

LRH: All right. Shift into your own valence. (pause) How do you feel in your own valence?



PC: All right.

LRH: Now what are you hearing in your own valence?

PC: But it comes back.

LRH: Comes back, comes back. Oh, boy! Let's go over that, honey.

PC: It comes back. It comes back. It comes back. (belch)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It comes back. It comes back.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: It comes back. It comes back. It comes back. It comes back. It comes back. It comes
back.

LRH: Roll the whole thing.

PC: (yawn) It comes back. It comes back. It comes back. It comes back.

LRH: It comes back what?

PC: Worse than ever

LRH: All right. Let's go over it again.

PC: It comes back worse than ever

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It comes back worse than ever

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It comes back worse than ever

LRH: The somatic strip can contact this now.

PC: (belch) It comes back worse than ever. It comes back worse than ever.

LRH: Who's talking?

PC: My mother.

LRH: What's she saying?

PC: It goes away for a little while and then it comes back worse than ever.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: I'm hungry. It goes away for a little while and then comes back worse than ever.

LRH: And what then? (pause) Let's roll that phrase a couple more times. Contact the somatic
now.



PC: It goes away for a little while and then it comes back worse than ever. It goes away for
a little while and then it comes back worse than ever. It goes away for a little while-
(belch) pardon me-then it comes back worse than ever.

LRH: Honey, shift into your own valence.

PC: (murmurs) It goes away for a little while and then it comes back worse than ever. It
goes away for a little while and then it comes back worse than ever. It goes away for a
little while and then it comes back worse than ever.

LRH: Honey, shift into your own valence.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Come to present time.

PC: Hm ? I feel good.

LRH: What's the date?

PC: 1950.

LRH: All right. Canceled.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How about going and getting something to eat now and then we'll resume the session.

PC: Okay.

[Break in the session, which then continues.]

LRH: This doctor had you on a subway train. Okay. What does a subway train sound like?

PC: A roar, I think. Probably very similar conditions to those of the womb. Is that what you
mean?

LRH: No. No similarity. But thereb merely a carrier wave, a volume carrier wave. In other
words, those words have mechanical effort behind them in the form of that roar.

PC: Which gives them additional force.

LRH: In addition to this, this character had you on phenobarbital long before you were in
therapy here. All right. Now when did this subway proposition happen?

PC: Af ter I came back from New Jersey.

LRH: Were you sick or something?

PC: No. He was interested in Dianetics and he asked me to come down. I didn't want to go
down alone so I took Arnold with me, because I felt the less I had to do with him the
better. And that maybe Arnold would talk to him and we would get away from him in a
hurry. At the same time I felt it would be the decent thing to do. Not that he had done
anything for me but that he had tried and I think there was a financial obligation there.
The clinic had been treating me for nothing.

LRH: What effect do you think That'suggestion might have had?



PC: Oh, probably a lot because, as I told you * last night, after that Arnold started to run me
and insisted it was hypnosis, and I knew damned well it wasn't hypnosis.

LRH: Well, what was hypnosis?

PC: The subway, right ?

LRH: Yes, because there was a carrier wave there which was knocking against the analyzer. I
just tell you this for your own information as an auditor, not to insist that the thing had
any value, because what he says doesn't have any value.

PC: I understand. No, I certainly know that everything he said was so damned aberrated.
But I realize that he's an aberree. We both laughed when we got home and said, Gee,
that guy's in a bad way! He needs therapy worse than we do. It was quite obvious.
No, at the time I didn't think he influenced us at all. I felt a lot better than he did at the
time, I'm sure of that. It was just what he had said. Perhaps I was questioning what he
said. But I'm sure that at the time I said to Arnold that it was hypnotism. I didn't mean
it and yet there I was saying it. What made me say it in the first place?

LRH: All right. Take off the glasses. Close your eyes. Anything I say to you now while you
are lying there with your eyes closed will be canceled when I say the word canceled.
Okay?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Now let's go back to the moment of the subway ride, with the word hypnotism.

PC: This guy Taylor can't define the word hypnotism. I asked him to and he could n `t.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again.

PC: Well, I still say it verged on suggestion. I asked Dr. Taylor to define the word
hypnotism and he just couldn't do it.

LRH: Continue.

PC: And then I heard Arnold say, Well, you state that if it is not hypnotism, it's a hypnoidal
state.Arnold was talking about a hypnoidal state, and this guy was saying, Well, he
can't define hypnosis.

LRH: Go on. Let's get the phrase I'm sure it's hypnotism.

PC: Well, there's something there.

LRH: I'm sure its hypnotism.

PC: I still say it's hypnotism.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I still say it's hypnotism.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I still say it's hypnotism.

LRH: All right. Let's contact That'subway train. How does he look when hex saying this
phrase?



PC: Very serious.

LRH: And what is he saying?

PC: He's convinced of his own belief. He's saying, I still say it's hypnosis. (throaty noise)

LRH: How do you feel? Do you have a cold at the time you're standing there talking to him?

PC: No. This is something I get when I'm very sad too. When I have all the other
symptoms I have this throat business in my nose.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: It's all tied up, I know.

LRH: All tied up. Let's go over that line, honey.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. (throaty noise)

LRH: Go over the line.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied
up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. (pause) It's all tied up. It's all tied up. I'm getting
sick again right here in the session.

LRH: Okay. Lets go over it now. Its all tied up.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It-'s all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied
up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. (voice is dwindling to
a very faint murmur) It's all tied up. It's all tied up. (yawn) It's all tied up. It's all tied
up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up.

LRH: Contact the somatic.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up.

LRH: Give me the first time that appears in the bank. Earlier.

PC: It's all tied up.

LRH: Earlier.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up.

LRH: Earlier.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. (pause)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's all tied up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It's all tied up. (speaking faintly)

LRH: What's that?



PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Lets go over it.

PC: It's all tied up. It's all tied up. It's all tied up.

LRH: Let's contact the beginning of this one and roll it.

PC: (pause) I'll bet this is from an operation or even birth.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I'll bet this is from an operation or from birth.

LRH: Why?

PC: It just sounds like an expression that would be used then.

LRH: What's the expression?

PC: When they cut something, they have to tie it off.

LRH: Its all tied off. Go over that.

PC: It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. (pause)
It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all tied off. It's all
tied off. It's all tied off. (pause) It's all tied off.

LRH: Got a somatic?

PC: No. (pause; belch)

LRH: Go over the word somatic.

PC: Somatic. Somatic. Somatic. Somatic. Somatic. Somatic.

LRH: What are you contacting there?

PC: The first time I heard the word.

LRH: All right.

PC: I was in sociology class. I was studying the application of the social work.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the word somatic in connection with that belch.

PC: Somatic. (pause) Somatic. Somatic. Somatic. Somatic.

LRH: Contact it anyplace else?

PC: Could be anywhere through therapy.

LRH: All right. Whop the first person who uses it to you in therapy?

PC: Michael.

LRH: All right. And what does he say?



PC: You'll have a somatic with this. How do you feel? What's your somatic? (pause) You'll
feel something somewhere, that's what we call a somatic. Sometimes you'll feel a pain.
That's what we call a somatic.

LRH: You know about this.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: All right. Let's come up to the first time anybody says, Come on, come on.

PC: Come on, come on.

LRH: First time Arnold says, Come on, come on.

PC: Come on, come on.

LRH: Go back there. You're right there.

PC: First time Arnold says, Come on, come on, in therapy?

LRH: Yes, in therapy.

PC: (pause) Oh, come on, Pearl. Come on, Pearl, give me the somatic.

LRH: What incident are you running out? Let's go over it again. Let's contact the incident that
you're running while hey saying that.

PC: Oh, come on, Pearl, what comes next? (pause) How the hell should I know? Run that.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Oh, come on, Pearl, (whispers a word).

LRH: What's the word you just said?

PC: How the hell should I know?

LRH: What's the last phrase you uttered before you said that?

PC: (pause) I don't know.

LRH: Can you feel the antagonism? Feel the antagonism, there. (pause) Feel the antagonism
that you feel toward him. What's he saying?

PC: Come on, Pearl, what comes next?

LRH: How do you feel?

PC: He has no right to talk to me this way in therapy.

LRH: Can you feel that rancor?

PC: Right now? No.

LRH: Let's go over it again. Lets feel that rancor.



PC: I'm so sick of this feeling. Somatics keep interfering. Come on, Pearl, what comes
next? Come on, you know, you're right there. How the hell should I know? Run that.
Oh, he always feels so pleased whenever that happens. Run that. You would think it
was the most important word in the whole thing.

LRH: All right. Let's go over it again.

PC: (pause) Come on, Pearl, what comes next? How the hell should I know? Run that.
(pause) Am, come on, Pearl, what comes next? You know, you're right there. Come
on now. How the hell should I know?

LRH: How do you feel about this now?

PC: No feeling about it.

LRH: Let's go over it again.

PC: And come on, Pearl, what comes next? How the hell should I know?

LRH: All right.

PC: Run that.

LRH: All right. Next time he says something like that. (pause)

PC: Yes.

LRH: What's he saying?

PC: Oh, you want the next time, excuse me.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And, come on, Pearl. Roll it again.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: And, come on, Pearl. Roll it again.

LRH: All right. How does he look? Or have you got your eyes closed?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How do you feel lying there on the bed while hex saying this to you?

PC: I wish he'd go away. He's bothering me. He's annoying me. I don't think he's doing a
good job of auditing anyway. I feel I'd be better off if I were asleep. I wish he would
just go away and leave me alone. It feels as though his auditing me is a waste of time.
And what annoys me most is his enthusiasm about it. He thinks he's doing me such a
good deed, and he puts all his heart and soul into it and I know he's not doing it right. I
feel I'd be better off without it. It feels as though I'm just lying there and letting him
practice on me and I know that I'm not getting any good out of it. At the same time I
feel he needs to practice, but never told him how I felt about it. (pause)

LRH: Okay. Can you feel that feeling while you're lying there?

PC: Yes.



LRH: Let's go over it again, honey.

PC: An, come on, Pearl, roll it again. Don't just lie there, roll it again. An, come on, Pearl,
don't just lie there. Roll it again. (pause)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Ah, come on, Pearl, don't just lie there. Roll it again.

LRH: How do you feel when you're lying there listening to this?

PC: Oh, I just want him to go away, I'm tired, I want to go to sleep.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I want him to stop bothering me.

LRH: All right. Lets go to basic-basic. (pause) Lets go to basic-basic, honey. Lets really get
this one now. (pause) Come on. Let's get this other come on.

PC: (pause) Oh, they seem to be waiting for something to happen.

LRH: Hm?

PC: They seem to be waiting for something to happen.

LRH: All right. Is somebody saying come on?

PC: I don't know that for a fact.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I don't know that for a fact.

LRH: What don't you know for a fact, honey?

PC: That that's the engram I'm looking for.

LRH: Okay. Do you know of another one? By all means get it.

PC: Nothing is past me. I'm just a blank here. (pause) I'll run Am, come on if you want me
to. I just don't know.

LRH: Well, the only thing I'm looking for is the earliest moment of pain or discomfort in your
entire life. Let's see if we can find Papa and Mama. We've already had Go away, stop
bothering me, leave me alone, and so forth. What we're doing is looking for basic
actually on the coitus chain.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Go away, stop bothering me, leave me alone, I'm too sick, I don't feel well. Aw, come
on, hold it for me. Aw, please. Oh, leave me alone. All I want to do is go to sleep. If
we could just find that in the basic chain we can knock out these bad incidents.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: How about buckling up your nerve and taking a touch out of it?



PC: I'd love to.

LRH: It's well worth it. Let's feel the bumpity-bumps and everything else in the thing.

PC: (pause) Aw, come on. Aw, come on, please hold it. No, I don't like it, go away. I'm
just rolling words. I don't know whether I'm making them up, or where they're
coming from.

LRH: All right.

PC: It's an awful feeling. I'm so unsure. It's all so unreal.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Aw, come on. Please hold it. No, I don't like it. I don't want to. (pause) Go away.
Please leave me alone. I'm tired and I don't feel good. What's the matter with you
now? I'm just not feeling well, that's all. (pause) I'm sick to my stomach.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (murmur; pause) I feel very, very ill.

LRH: Well, what's she saying? We know what this engrams about. We've been through
these things. Now if we can just find number one.

PC: Aw, come on, please hold me. An, don't be that way. Come on, be a sport. Have a
little fun. You don't know how to enjoy life. Come on, have a little fun. It's all I can do
to keep myself awake. (murmur) Can't you see I don't feel well ? What's wrong with
you now? Oh, I'm so sick. (belch) And besides I feel sick to my stomach. Now are you
satisfied ? I'm sorry; this will make you feel better. It's the best medicine in the world.
This is just what the doctor ordered. It will fix you up in no time. That could be quite a
computation, could n `t it ?

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I feel quite dopey. I think I'm falling asleep, but I feel perfectly relaxed. (pause; belch)

LRH: Lets contact the first end of the first coitus engram now, honey. We can run out the
coitus chain, just buckle up your nerve there. It has to be done, the case will resolve
like a dream. Nothing to it.

PC: An, come on, please hold me. Does this dopey, drowsy feeling I have come from the
basic area?

LRH: It depends. What does the command being held say?

PC: I feel kind of drugged. Oh, come on, please hold me. Go away from me. Leave me
alone. I don't like it. Take that thing away from me. (pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: (long pause) Don't laugh at me. (shrill laughter) I don't know if you'd call it a dream or
what. I get the impression of a man holding his penis and banging it down as hard as he
can on a windowsill, just cracking it down. (speaking happily) I've never had anything
like this happen to me before! (laugh) I'm sure nobody would do it. But the impression
wouldn't go away. It kept persisting.

LRH: Roll through it again.



PC: (laugh in voice) But it's all just words.

LRH: Roll through it again. Take it up from the beginning.

PC: (pause; sighs) Am, come on. Please hold me. Oh, come on, please hold me. I know
those words are there but my mother's I'm not sure of.

LRH: Keep rolling. It doesn't matter.

PC: Aw, come on. Please hold me. No. Take that thing away from me. I don't like it. Put it
back, Arnold.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (breathing, small grunts, loud belch) This seems to be about the hardest thing I've ever
done.

LRH: Huh?

PC: (belch) This seems to be about the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.

LRH: What?

PC: Rolling this engram. That's probably engram content. (laughter in voice)

LRH: Well, roll it then.

PC: Umph.

LRH: Contact the beginning there.

PC: (yawning) Oh. Am, come on, please hold me. Maybe there's something in here about
hard, I don't know. (pause)

LRH: Oh, just repeat it, if you think maybe its there, repeat it.

PC: Hard. (loud yawn) Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard.

LRH: The right words will flash into your mind.

PC: Hard. Hard. Hard. (yawn) It's probably there. Hard. An, come on, please hold me.
An, come on, please hold me. (pause; murmur)

LRH: Hardest?

PC: Hardest, hardest.

LRH: All right. Lets take up the phrase hardest thing in the world.

PC: Hardest thing.... This is one of the hardest things in the world....

LRH: Go over it again. One of the hardest things.

PC: (yawns) This is one of the hardest things in the world.

LRH: Continue.



PC: (pause) She said, What, again?

LRH: Huh?

PC: What, again?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (pause; deep breath) An, come on, please hold me. This is one of the hardest things in
the world, you know. (long pause)

LRH: Let's go over it again, honey.

PC: Come on, please hold me. This is one of the hardest things in the world, you know.
You should take good care of it, it's very precious. (laugh)

LRH: (laugh in voice) Okay.

PC: Oh. Its very valuable. And she's saying, Oh, no, not again. Don't you ever get tired of
the same old thing day after day after day? You never get tired. But I do.

LRH: All right, honey. Lets roll it. You're doing good. That's my girl, you're doing good.
Listen, if I were to say to you What, again? in a womanb voice, what would be your
reply?

PC: Aw, come on, it's good for you.

LRH: Aha.

PC: Aw, come on, it `s good for you.

LRH: Continue.

PC: This is the best thing in the world for you.

LRH: How about it being valuable or precious.

PC: There's nothing more beautiful in the world. Don't you know that?

LRH: Continue, honey.

PC: (murmur) Oh, boy, anything to get this out.

LRH: What?

PC: (laugh in voice) I'd give anything to get this out.

LRH: Go on over that again.

PC: (laugh) I'd give anything to get this out.

LRH: Go over it.

PC: (laugh) I'd give anything to get this out. I'd give anything to get this out. I'd give
anything to get this out. (yawn) I'd give anything to get this out.

LRH: All right. Get Beat it off.



PC: I'd give anything to get this out. I'd give anything to get this out. I'd give anything to
get this out. I'd give anything to get this out.

LRH: Get Beat it off.

PC: You mean keep running it?

LRH: No. Beat it off. Get the phrase Beat it off.

PC: Beat it off? What do you mean?

LRH: Just get the phrase Beat it off. Just repeat that phrase.

PC: Beat it off?

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it
off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. Beat it off. (belch) Beat it off.

LRH: Doyou expect me to beat if off? Try that.

PC: Doyou expect me to beat if off? Do you expect me to beat it off? Do you expect me to
beat if off? Do you expect me to beat if off? Do you expect me to beat if off?

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Do you expect me to beat if off? Do you expect me to beat it off? Doyou expect me to
beat if off? Doyou expect me to beat if off? Doyou expect me to beat if off? Do you
expect me to beat if off? (getting fainter) Do you expect me to beat it off? Do you expect
me to beat if off? Do you expect me to beat if off? Doyou expect me to beat if off?
Doyou expect me to beat if off? I'm not making any contact. I don't know what the
words mean or where they would fit.

LRH: All right. I can't get it in.

PC: I can't get it in.

LRH: Or, I can't get into it.

PC: I can't get into it. I can't get into it. I can't get into it. I can't get into it. I can't get into
it. I can't get into it. I can't get into it. (yawn) I can't get into it. I can't get into it. Can't
get into it.

LRH: What's the next line?

PC: (pause) I don't know.

LRH: I can't get into it.

PC: I can't get into it. I can't get into it. I can't get into it.

LRH: Too tight.

PC: Too tight. (belch) I can't get into it. I can't get into it, it's too tight. I can't get into it.
(makes a snorting noise) I can't get into it. It's too tight. I can't get into it.

LRH: Contact the somatic on that.



PC: I can't get into it. It's too tight. I can't get into it. It's too tight. I can't get into it. It's
too tight.

LRH: I wonder what hex doing?

PC: Well, the only thing is intercourse, so there's only about one thing that he could be
doing.

LRH: All right. Let's roll it from the beginning. Oh, come on. Let's get this in full. This is a
hard thing for me to do.

PC: (pause) Maybe my mother is saying, It's a hard thing for me to do.

LRH: Might be.

PC: (pause) I can't. I just can't do that.

LRH: All right. Go over that one. Now we've got one.

PC: I just can't do that. (belch) I just can't do that. I just can't. I just can't. (pause) I just
can't do that.

LRH: Let's contact the thing now from the beginning. And don't let what I have said there
mess you up on it. Just run the thing from the beginning now.

PC: An, come on, please hold me. Oh, no, I just can `t do that. Oh, don't ask me to do it
tonight. You're terrible. (pause) What a filthy thing to do. (pause) What a filthy thing to
do.

LRH: What are you doing? Going up the bank a ways?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Are you still running the first one?

PC: I hope so.

LRH: All right. Your somatic strip will contact the first one now. Do a good job on this first
one.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's he saying?

PC: Aw, come on. Please hold it. No. I don't want to. Oh, don't be that way. I don't want
to. You don't know what you're missing.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: You don't know what you're missing. You don't know what you're missing. (belch)

LRH: Continue.

PC: No, don't be like that. (murmur; pause) Just feel it. Just feel it.

LRH: All right. If somebody said, Just feel it, to you right now, what would you say back?



PC: I can't. Just feel it. I can't. Please don't make me.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Go over it.

PC: I can't. Please don't make me. It's one of the hardest things in the world.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Aw, come on. That's no way to act. You're insulting it. It's beautiful. (giggles; pause)

LRH: Continue.

PC: Come on. There's nothing to it. There's nothing to it, I bet you'll like it. An, come on.
I want you to. Please, do it for me. Come on, I want you to, just for me. Really, I
can't. (pause) Really I can't. (sigh)

LRH: Get the word hot.

PC: Hot. (pause) Hot. (pause) Hot, hot.

LRH: Hot and bothered.

PC: Hot and bothered.

LRH: This is the late twenties, isn't it?

PC: Early twenties.

LRH: All right, get the phrase hot and bothered out of there.

PC: Hot and bothered. Hot and bothered. Hot and bothered. Hot and bothered. (murmur)

LRH: I'm all hot and bothered.

PC: I'm all hot and bothered. I'm all hot and bothered. I'm all hot and bothered.

LRH: Contact it. The somatic strip can contact it if it's there.

PC: I'm all hot and bothered. I'm all hot and bothered.

LRH: You can contact that if its there.

PC: You can't leave me this way. Look, I'm all hot and bothered.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You can't leave me this way. Look, I'm all hot and bothered.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: You can't leave me this way. Look, I'm all hot and bothered. You have to do it. Please
do it for me. I've never done it before in my life. (laughs)

LRH: Continue.

PC: I never did it before in my life.

LRH: Go over it again.



PC: I've never done it before in my life. (belch) That makes me sick. (belch, sigh) That
makes me sick.

LRH: What does he ask her to do? Let's go back to that.

PC: Come on. Please hold it....

LRH: Please hold it what?

PC: I don't get anything after Please hold it.

LRH: All right. Does the word mouth appear here?

PC: (pause) I don't know. (pause) Look, it could be almost anything as far as I'm
concerned.

LRH: All right. Let's contact the beginning of it.

PC: Because you know I'm not hearing these words, I'm more or less making them * up.
Nothing is real. They're just words. I believe I'm making them up. I don't know
whether it's coitus, fellatio or what have you. It could be almost anything. Because I
have no way of checking it, if I don't hear it and I don't see it and I don't feel it.

LRH: Where do you get that phrase from?

PC: I don't hear it or I don't see it, I don't feel it?

LRH: Yes. I have no way of checking it. Go over those words.

PC: (whispers) I have no way of checking it. Ooh, that's one of my own.

LRH: Oh, yeah? I have no way of checking it. Go over that.

PC: I have no way of checking it.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: I have no way of checking it. I have no way of checking it. I have no way of checking
it. I have no way of checking it. I have no way of checking it. I have no way of
checking it. I have no way of checking it.

LRH: Go over it again. I have no way of checking it.

PC: I have no way of checking it.

LRH: I don't hear.

PC: I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. Could be Mother with
her pregnancy.

LRH: Let's go over it now.

PC: I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel
anything. I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I
don't feel anything. I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I don't see
anything, I don't feel anything. It could be a doctor talking about the pregnancy.



LRH: All right. Let's roll it.

PC: I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel
anything.

LRH: Try the phrase I can't tell this early.

PC: I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I
can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I
can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. I can't tell this early. It's
too early to tell.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It's too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's
too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's too early to tell. It's too
early to tell.

LRH: What's the next line?

PC: I don't know a thing.

LRH: All right. Just checking it. I have no way of checking it.

PC: I have no way of checking it. It's too early to tell. I have no way of checking it. We'll
have to wait and see.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: We al just have to wait and see.

LRH: Let's go over this again.

PC: It's too early to tell. I have no way of checking it. We'll just have to wait and see.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Come back and see me in about a month.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: come back and see me in about a month.

LRH: All right. Lets get the phrase, I don't hear anything, I don't feel anything, I don't see
anything.

PC: I d on `t hear anything, I don `t see anything, I don't feel anything.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. (yawns) I don't hear
anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. Oh God, if that's in here I'll
scream.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. I don't hear anything,
I don't see anything, I don't feel anything.



LRH: The somatic strip can contact it.

PC: Oh, God. I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. I don't hear
anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. I don't hear anything, I don't see
anything, I don't feel anything.

LRH: Let's contact that now. I have no way of checking it.

PC: I have no way of checking it. (yawns) I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I
don't feel anything.

LRH: Let's contact it again.

PC: I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel
anything.

LRH: Let's contact it again.

PC: I have no way of checking it. (yawns) I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I
don't feel anything. (exhales) I have no way of checking it. I don't hear anything, I
don't see anything, I don't feel anything. (yawn) I have no way of checking it. I don't
hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything. I have no way of checking it.
I don't hear anything, I don't see anything, I don't feel anything.

LRH: What else is there?

PC: (belch)

LRH: All right, honey. Lets try to shift you around to your own valence. Shift around into
your own valence. You're lying there all curled up, lying there all curled up, and lets
see if we can get some kind of a penetration; just simulate this thing and lets see if we
can contact it.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Lets be right there and see if we can't roll this while you're all curled up there. (loud
belch from PC) Lets shift to your own valence and let's take it at the moment of that
burp.

PC: (pause) Oogh! I have no way of checking it. I don't see anything and I don't feel
anything. (belch)

LRH: Get that next burp. Get that burp again. See how we could contact it, possibly.

PC: (sigh) It's too early to tell. (mutters) I don't know what to check. I don't feel anything,
I don't hear anything and I don't see anything. Come back to see me in about a month.

LRH: All right. Lets see if we can develop the tactile here. Just simulate it. See if you can
develop the tactile.

PC: Do you want me to run the words too?

LRH: Yes. Just contact the moment of the words. Contact the moment of the words. Lets see
if we can feel a little concussion on the front of this thing.

PC: There's no way to stop this. I have no way of checking. I can't see anything. I can't
hear anything, I can't feel anything.



LRH: Okay. Lets see if we can contact this, beginning again there now. Thereb probably
some punches right before this thing begins, if I know my doctors.

PC: If anybody punches me I'll punch them right back.

LRH: All right. I know my doctors now. The somatic strip can pick up whateverb going on
there.

PC: (belch)

LRH: That's right. Lets contact that.

PC: You can almost imagine him punching.

LRH: All right. Lets imagine.

PC: It's too early to tell. I have no way of checking it. I can't see anything, I can't hear
anything, I can't feel anything.

LRH: All right, now lets go a little bit earlier. There's probably some conversation before that.
Does he tell her to lie down, or hold still, or do what?

PC: Just relax.

LRH: Go over that now.

PC: Just relax.

LRH: Just relax.

PC: Just relax.

LRH: And what else?

PC: This isn't going to hurt.

LRH: Oh, boy! Go over that again.

PC: This isn't going to hurt. (laughs) This isn't going to hurt. This isn't going to hurt.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Just relax. This isn't going to hurt a bit. (long pause) Just relax. This isn't going to
hurt.

LRH: Is there a lie down there?

PC: Lie quietly.

LRH: Ah! Go over that again.

PC: Lie quietly, please. Just lie quietly, please. Just lie quietly, please. Just lie quietly.

LRH: Continue.

PC: Just lie quietly, please. (pause)



LRH: Let's go just a little bit earlier than that. Thereb probably the phrase I think I'm pregnant
in there.

PC: I think I'm pregnant but I'm not sure.

LRH: Ah. Let's go over that.

PC: I think I'm pregnant but I'm not sure. I have no way of telling. Oh, (sigh) I think I'm
pregnant but I'm not sure.

LRH: Continue.

PC: I have no way of telling.

LRH: Continue.

PC: (pause) I'm going to leave that part to you.

LRH: Continue. (pause) Continue. I have no way of telling, I'm not sure. Let's roll that
again.

PC: I think I'm pregnant but I'm not sure. I have no way of telling. (belch)

LRH: What does she'say about not holding anything down or something of the sort? (pause)
What does she'say about her sickness?

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down these days.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down these days.

LRH: Contact it again. The somatic strip can contact it.

PC: My eyes hurt. I'm not able to keep anything down these days. My stomach hurts.

LRH: My stomach what?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Contact that again.

PC: My stomach feels as though it has taken a beating.

LRH: Go over that. That's a bouncer, honey. Let's contact the thing and get some anaten off
of it.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. My stomach feels like it's taken a beating.

LRH: Hm?



PC: Which one do you want me to repeat? I'm not able to keep anything down?

LRH: Yes.

PC: Uh-huh. Yeah.

LRH: That's a bouncer.

PC: Oh, I see. Come up to present time, huh ?

LRH: Let's return to this phrase not able to keep anything down. See if we can contact this
phrase.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. (belch)

LRH: That's all right. Let's go over that now.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: What happens immediately after that?

PC: She belches.

LRH: Okay. Let's go over it again.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. (belch, sigh) See what I mean?

LRH: Hm-hm. All right. Let's keep repeating it, its okay.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: (belch) And for me that's the only answer.

LRH: Hm?

PC: And for me that's the only answer.

LRH: Oh, brother!

PC: (groans)

LRH: Go over it again, honey.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down, and for me that's the only answer.

LRH: Contact it again.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. And for me that's the only answer.

LRH: This appears earlier in the bank, doesn't it, honey?

PC: Hm?

LRH: This appears earlier.



PC: Sure.

LRH: Let's contact it earlier. Contact it now. The somatic strip can contact the first time I'm
not able to keep anything down.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: First time.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able
to keep anything down.

LRH: Contact it.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: First time in the bank.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Let's connect with it. First time.

PC: My poor little finger aches.

LRH: Okay. Go over it. I'm not able to keep anything down. How far up the bank have you
flown? Hey now, wait a minute, are we running on any other basis? When I tell you to
go earlier where do you go? Flash!

PC: Earlier.

LRH: All right. Lets contact the first moment that these insidious words are uttered.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able
to keep anything (belch) down. I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Lets go to the first time these words are uttered.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Go to the moment when they're uttered for the first time in your life.

PC: I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able to keep anything down. I'm not able
to keep anything down. (belch) I'm not able to keep anything down.

LRH: Is there anything like It keeps coming up or It feels better when it comes up or
anything?

PC: Well, there's the phrase I feel better.

LRH: Lets go over that.

PC: As soon as it comes up I feel better.

LRH: Let's go over that again.

PC: As soon as it comes up I feel better. As soon as it comes up I feel better. As soon as it
comes up I feel better. As soon as it comes up I feel better.



LRH: Can you contact that one?

PC: I know it's what I say all the time.

LRH: All right. Let's see if you can contact it down below.

PC: (pause) As soon as it comes up I feel better.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: As soon as it comes up I feel better.

LRH: What else goes with it? Is there something like I can't keep anything down, or I've got
to get it up, or what?

PC: I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Run over that again.

PC: I can't keep anything down, it has to come up. Whenever it comes up I feel fine.

LRH: All right. Let's go over that again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. I can't keep anything down, it has to
come up. (burp) The minute it comes up I feel fine. The minute I get rid of it I feel
good. I can't keep anything down, it has to come up. The minute I get rid of it I feel
good. I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. The minute I get rid of it I feel
good.

LRH: Contact the first moment it appears, the earliest moment in the case.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. The minute I get rid of it I feel good.

LRH: Earlier time it appears now.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. The moment I get rid of it I feel good.
(pause; belch) I can't keep anything down.

LRH: Lets go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. (belch, sigh; pause)

LRH: See if we can contact this now at the earliest moment. Lets take the tension off.

PC: I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. It
has to come up. It's the rottenest feeling there is. The moment it comes up I feel better.

LRH: Let's go over it again. (pause) Lets go over it again. Ayah!

PC: I've lost the words.

LRH: I can't keep anything down.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Let's go to the earlier one now. The rottenest feeling there is.



PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. It's the rottenest feeling there is. The
moment I get rid of it I feel better.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. It's the rottenest feeling there is. The
moment I get rid of it I feel better.

LRH: Contact the somatic with it, honey.

PC: (pause) I can't keep anything down. (belch) It has to come up. It's the rottenest feeling
in the world.

LRH: Let's roll it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. It's the rottenest feeling in the world.

LRH: Let's go.... What's the matter?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Lets go to an earlier one. Is there an earlier one?

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. I can't keep anything down. I can't keep
anything down. I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. It has to
come up.

LRH: Earliest time we can discover this now. (pause) Take yourself down there. Let's get
down there. This is a bouncer. But that's no reason why it should bounce anybody. Its
just in an engram, lets roll it, honey. I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. I can't keep anything down. It has to
come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up. I can't keep anything down. It has to
come up. I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Contact the first time now its in the bank. Earlier. The somatic strip can contact it now,
early.

PC: I'm not contacting it.

LRH: All right. Repeat the phrase.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Continue. Get the earliest phrase you can get there.



PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Go over it again. Contact it, honey.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Your somatic strip can contact it. The first time it appears in the bank. (pause) The first
time it appears. (pause) The first time it appears.

PC: (belch) I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: I can't keep anything down. It has to come up.

LRH: Let's contact the somatic strip with it now and see if we can really connect up with her
saying that, honey. Let's see if we can contact her saying that. That's the super
bouncer that's messing things up. Now lets see if we can't do it. Hm? I'm sure we can.
Let's see if we can get the earliest moment she'says this.

PC: I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. It
has to come up. I can't keep anything down. I can't keep anything down. It has to
come up.

LRH: Go forward to present time.

PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Canceled.

PC: What happened? Gee, my case is really loused up, isn't it?

LRH: Well, I see whatb mainly wrong with it. Arnold tipped this doctors examination I'm
sure.

PC: He what?

LRH: Tipped the doctors examination.

PC: Yah.

LRH: DOYou'recall that happening?

PC: What do you mean, he tipped the doctor's exam?

LRH: He just ticked it.

PC: Who ticked it?

LRH: Arnold.

PC: He never ran that.

LRH: He never ran it?



PC: Bob ran it.

LRH: Bob ran it?

PC: You mean did I ever run that thing before? Yes, with Bob.

LRH: How long ago?

PC: A long time ago.

LRH: Have you had any somatics since? Yours?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Yes. That birth scene I ran with Arnold, I had one hell of a pain in my right shoulder. I
was rolling all over the bed screaming, My shoulder is killing me, and the somatic was
very strong. And that's one that I remember quite well.

LRH: Okay. Were there any more somatics after that? When did your somatics click off? Your
own somatics?

PC: Not until very recently, I don't think.

LRH: When? (pause) Shut your eyes and go to the moment. (pause) Shut your eyes and go to
the moment when the last one happened. Then what occurred?

PC: I had a headache in present time and Arnold regressed me and he got rid of it. Whether
that was my own somatic or not I don't know.

LRH: So what happened?

PC: I ran a thing, Oh, I'm suffering, I can't stand it. Please get me a cold cloth for my head,
don't let me suffer this way. If you have any humanity at all in your soul you'll help
me. And I ran it out. And the headache disappeared. I came up to present time without
a headache.

LRH: And then what occurred?

PC: That's the last somatic I had, a real somatic.

LRH: So what occurred the next day?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: All right. The somatic strip can drop to the moment when these somatics shut off. The
reason these somatics shut off. (pause) What are you getting now? (pause) The exact
reason why they shut off. You can go right to that. Exactly what was occurring there at
the moment things shut off?

PC: (murmur)

LRH: What?

PC: Right now I've got a pain in the bottom of my right foot. It just seems to come. Now
it's gone. A very sharp pain in the bottom of my right foot.



LRH: Try it again.

PC: Try to get it back?

LRH: Yes.

PC: I can't.

LRH: Why not?

PC: It won't come.

LRH: Won't come. Go over that again.

PC: Won't come. It won't come. (belch) It won't come. It won't come. It won't come. It
won't come. It won't come. It won't come. It won't come. It won't come. It won't
come. It won't come. It won't come. (burps twice) It'll never get here.

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: It won't come. It'll never get here. Seems like it'll never get here. I've got an awful
pain in the pit of my stomach.

LRH: Go on over it again.

PC: It won't come. It seems like it will never get here. It won't come. It seems like it will
never get here. It won't come. It seems like it will never get here. It won't come. It
seems like it will never get here. It won't come. It seems like it will never get here. It
won't come.

LRH: Can you'recover that pain in the foot?

PC: No.

LRH: Lets recover it now.

PC: No, I can't.

LRH: Hm?

PC: I can't.

LRH: Can't what?

PC: Get the pain back.

LRH: Your somatic strip can find it.

PC: (pause) Tell the somatic strip to find it.

LRH: All right. The somatic strip will go to the pain in the foot.

PC: It doesn't come.

LRH: All right. Go over It doesn't come.



PC: It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It
doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It doesn't come. It
doesn't come.

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: It doesn't come.

LRH: Coritact the pain in your foot and those words.

PC: It doesn't come.

LRH: It doesn't come out.

PC: It doesn't come out. It doesn't come out. It doesn't come out. It doesn't come out. It
doesn't come out. It doesn't come out. It doesn't come out. It doesn't come out.

LRH: Come up to present time, honey. (pause) How do you feel?

PC: Fine. What's going to become of me? I can see I'm just not working. I mean,
something's wrong.

LRH: I know whatb wrong.

PC: You do?

LRH: I'm working out the reasons one by one.

PC: All right. I'll leave it to you. You're the man for it.

LRH: I drew it from That'scene there about you can't feel it and so forth. How many times
did he run it?

PC: He didn't run I can't feel it, I can't see it, I can't hear it.

LRH: What did he run?

PC: It's too early to tell. I didn't feel anything at the time. I didn't get any somatics, that's
true.

LRH: I wonder why.

PC: I can't feel anything, I can't hear anything.

LRH: Right.

PC: And then there was another one that's in there, This won't hurt a bit. Yes, I ran those
words at the time, This won't hurt a bit. Just relax.

LRH: And you got a release on neither of them.

PC: Apparently not.

LRH: Well, the whole case has got a bouncer activating in it. But that's all right. A little
Benzedrine will overcome the bouncer.



PC: Oh, fine, I don't care. Listen, I meant to ask you, in this therapy if you know what
you're doing and you don't use positive suggestion, do you ever use narcosynthesis
when you have a tough case?

LRH: Occasionally.

PC: I don't care what you do with me. I trust you. I'll let you do anything you want to
break this thing.

LRH: Oh, I will.

PC: Okay. Ijust wanted to tell you

LRH: Don't worry, I will. I'll break the case.

PC: Oh, I know you'll break the case, I know.

LRH: Sure, as a matter of fact, it's about 90 percent broken now.

PC: Oh, I'm glad to hear that.

LRH: Well, there's a lot of it.

Now, for instance, the only trouble is things get scrambled down in the basic area. Material
gets badly scrambled up. The main thing for a person to run smoothly is to run with
confidence. As long as you have confidence, you can push against the thing. So we just
rehabilitate your confidence. These are your main bootstraps.

Good.

It's your main strength. Now I haven't jumped you about anything, have I?

No.

Well, about this time you ought to get the idea that I'm not going to. Oh, I know that. You've
reassured me all the way through. I know what you mean. No, I feel perfectly confident.
That's why I want to tell you that in case you felt that it was necessary to take drastic measures,
it's perfectly all right with me.

No. There are no drastic measures necessary. Honey, you're not in bad shape anyhow. I cut
out some of the anxiety about Arnold but I would like to get more unconsciousness off the
basic area. That's what I keep fishing for.

I know. And it's very difficult to reach it. Is that right out of my engrams ?

Well, you've gotten entirely too much of that. What is this right out of my engram stuff? You
should realize something very clearly, that in present time and out of therapy the analyzer is just
working along fine. But when a person is regressed to a moment when an engram is right
there, the analyzer shutdown is practically 100 percent in view of that fact that the phrases he
has when he is returned to a moment are all engramic. But a bad auditor will keep insisting that
everything a person thinks of is engramic which starts his head spinning.

You don't have to explain that to me. That's one thing that I have against Bob, for crying out
loud. He presses my buttons afterwards. I never could carry on a normal conversation with
Bob. Every damn thing I'd say he'd smirk and give it all back to me. He'd push every button
and repeat everything I had said in the engram I'd just run. And no matter what I would say he
would laugh and insist that it was 100 percent engramic. And that was the only kind of an
answer I could ever get out of Bob if I ever asked him a question. I could never get a direct



answer from him. Everything I said was engramic as far as he was concerned. He didn't say
so, he certainly implied it though so strongly. He would just laugh and feed the words back at
me. And I think that's cruelty on an auditor's part.

That'sort of a system is not good.

Sure. And the Handbook tells you not to do that. Even if you feel that things are engramic, you
don't go around saying, Well, that's one of your engrams.

That's right. Because the function of the mind is to be right, and even if it is using engramic
language, after all it is still trying to express itself in English.

That's right. I was telling Sharon the other night I feel that that `s cruelty on the part of an
auditor.

It is very definitely.

And do you know that lately I just couldn't stand to have Bob run me, because I had That'same
feeling that he was laughing at everything I said to him, thinking it was engramic. Here I am
suffering and I try to tell him how I feel physically and it's a big joke to him. It's all in your
engrams, he says. Sure, I know you're vomiting. Go ahead and vomit. Tell me, tell me.

I would say, You know, I just can't eat. And whatever I would say he would mimic me. Well,
Bob isn't a clear yet He can't help it. I don't hold it against him.

Well, I'm trying to peel the case down. I can'tell you what I am trying to do specifically if you
want me to.

All right, if you want to.

I just want to find the emotional shut-offs and the feeling shut-offs in the case so that we can
spring the only thing that's suppressing your case, which is Grandpa's death.

You'really feel that that's it, huh?

Yes, I know that's it.

And there was no charge on that, that I remember.

You've got three deaths there in a row.

And none of them so far have discharged. They just wouldn't when we regressed to them.

That's occluded.

I think they're all occluded.

But I turned it on a couple of times, and I've gotten closer. You were running an emotional
charge with Arnold. All right. What ever that was, that was releasing; I am very sure, if I
regress you to the moment you were running it with Arnold and we deintensify the
interruption, I'm sure the rest of the charge will proceed and come on out.

Good. Well, you certainly know what you are doing. Sure, because all I'm trying to do with
your case is get an emotional release. The second you get an emotional release, you are going
to snap back to battery. Physical pain engrams are not important really until supercharged with
painful emotion.



The conversion of unconsciousness to painful emotion, if that is the process, is terribly jolting.
All you have to do is take the emotion off the case. As a matter of fact, that's the first step in
creating a release.

I know. How was it I was called release in the first place?

Well, you weren't. I didn't realize that until all of a sudden somebody said, Why, no, we
haven't touched this and we haven't touched that. So, there are three deaths with no release of
affect on them! That was just a few months ago.

March. When I started therapy.

Yes. And if I had taken a review of your case in March I would have absolutely slapped the
brakes on any therapy at all other than very expert therapy, because obviously the emotion was
not off the case.

Okay. I have been investigating the quality of these other things and what was going on and so
on. Well, that's all interesting, and I've been trying to see if we couldn't find out where we hit
the button to get the emotional release. The emotional release can be gained there with a drug, if
worst comes to worst. But I want to turn your case back into the channel very thoroughly.

Hm-hm.

If I can get an emotional release on the case it will run smoothly again, in spite of anything that
Arnold has said.

I'm sure you can do it.

But I would advise one thing.

Yah?

Because it is tough to work a person when their push is a little bit down, there are two ways
you can raise your push, one is eat even when you don't want the food.

Yes. Even though the chances are one might throw it up, but then again one might not. Yes,
sure. Eat things which are quickly digestible, and get plenty of rest, but much more important
than that, get busy.

Yes.

There are a stack of books downstairs.

Good. How wonderful.

That's vocationally.

All right. Fine.

You have changed your environment?

Yes.

Okay.

How about keeping Arnold out of the picture? Would that help?

Sure it would.

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